Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

[nonhocapito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtLoros6Uk

They talk about photoshopped video.

Seems very interesting, although i would like to see these pictures he talks about. You gotta wonder why Libyans and pro-gaddafi forces did not complain about fakery used against them months ago. Why waking up now? Maybe other strategies did not work?


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtLoros6Uk

I think it is about time the arab masses start to look into the deceit and manipulation of media more closely. "Muslims for 9/11 truth" and "Al jazeera" seem not to be working for them. Declared emancipation from newsmedia could work though...

[nonhocapito]

Who's your daddy? From http://www.corriere.it/gallery/esteri/0 ... 7.shtml#11

So the media are giving Gaddafi's regime as "fallen". Gaddafi's sons "captured". Fighting reduced to "few areas of Tripoli". People "celebrating in the streets of Tripoli".

http://www.boston.com/news/world/africa ... _to_brink/
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middl ... 70562.html

A limited number of low-quality pictures are distributed to support the idea (sporting the same ridiculously low pixel dimensions regardless the news channel, as customary).

http://news.livedoor.com/article/image_ ... id=2127825
http://www.corriere.it/gallery/esteri/0 ... 1.shtml#13

So these surreal, made-up rebels, in reality probably a cover for foreign, mercenary troops enabled to fight against Gaddafi's powerful army far from the digital cameras, supposedly destroyed (supported by the humanitarian bombing of NATO) in a matter of months this long standing regime that for better and worse had brought stability and relative richness (and the lowest public debt on earth) to this country, and Gaddafi to the leadership of the African Union.

If it was that easy, to topple a military regime so spontaneously, you gotta wonder why Gaddafi's enemies didn't encourage this before. Oh, yeah, I forgot, "twitter" had to be invented first.

What will it be now? Are the corporations ready to get in and buy everything for a few pennies? Are the oil companies ready? Are the french zionists rejoicing? Is Monsanto, owner of Blackwater/Xe, whose GMO seeds had been refused by the African Union, rejoicing? Is a mock trial for one of Gaddafi's doubles being prepared?

What a sad, pathetic joke these "revolutions" are...

[corsarino]

http://youtu.be/RXfR9sphNkY

It's a great comedy played by the Mainstream Media.

[corsarino]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/ja/conten ... el-victory

They have built a fake Arab city!

[gwynned]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/ja/conten ... el-victory

They have built a fake Arab city!

Hmm... when I clicked on the link I got a 'Sorry' from Yahoo. Is it gone?

[nonhocapito]

From http://whatreallyhappened.com/ja/conten ... el-victory

"Libyan facebook users suggesting more fakery in the news reports of rebel gains."

(Don't you hate it when they say "facebook users" so that they don't have to provide source or take responsibility for anything they show you?
For sure we should give lessons to these people on how sources are provided to the public. )

Unfortunately I could not find a video for that particular Al Jazeera imagery from live TV.

Here is an Al jazeera's video commentary on the pro-rebels people celebrating in the "Green square":
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/afric ... 05430.html
the incredibly limited movement of the tripod seem to suggest... green-screen in green square?

In this video, the arched entrance to the old city is seen briefly towards the end:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQA240nAQM

And it does appear as a low-quality rendering of reality...


The video fades out right when you could see more details...


Here are two series of pictures supposedly illustrating the battle of Tripoli, providing no real clue (could be set anywhere):

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/in ... 03546.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/in ... 11122.html

Funny how they want to show the taking over of Tripoli, but most of the images come from Benghazi, that was "liberated" months ago...

[nonhocapito]

More video contradictions shown here:


From this forum: http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?sh ... &start=450

Also once again here:

From this blog: http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... n-tripoli/

Very enlarged version of the above, here: http://pics.livejournal.com/manifest_911/pic/0006kytr
from this blog: http://kolybanov.livejournal.com/370564.html

more useless videos showing "rebels in tripoli":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAU48xDdCjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qhnu6N40SE

[Unleashed]

Nonhocapito,
You caught my interest with the bit about Monsanto buying Blackwater/Xe. I was thinking where have I been? I totally missed that. Well, it turns out that they were merely renting them!

Government contracts probably still make up the lion's share of their bottom line, but in the corporate world, it seems they never know when having mercs might come in handy.

http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2010/10 ... t-buy.html

The line between is so blurry.

[nonhocapito]

Nonhocapito,
You caught my interest with the bit about Monsanto buying Blackwater/Xe. I was thinking where have I been? I totally missed that. Well, it turns out that they were merely renting them!

Government contracts probably still make up the lion's share of their bottom line, but in the corporate world, it seems they never know when having mercs might come in handy.

http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2010/10 ... t-buy.html

The line between is so blurry.

You're right, the operation of Monsanto buying Xe never officially got through.
However, the thing is that eventually Xe was bought by an investment group, and nobody can tell who's behind that investment group...

http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/01/04/d ... y-to-know/
http://redgreenandblue.org/2010/10/16/t ... lackwater/
http://www.warisbusiness.com/1620/featu ... onnection/

The latter seems to be an interesting website investigating mercenary companies and the war trade: http://www.warisbusiness.com/

In a world where the fiction of "wag the dog" is reality, I see two main contestants that will create more and more occasions for the mercenary companies to be employed worldwide:
1) the mercenary companies themselves. The bigger they get, like xe, the more interest and ability they will have to foment wars. Don't seasonal firefighters burn forests?
2) the media...

[Unleashed]

Yes, the kid gloves are firmly around 10 foot pole on this one!

I've not heard very many peeps about their presence in Libya but, you know they're there looking out for the corporate interests, of course.

As a side note, I am not entirely sure that Ghaddafi, Khaddafy, or whatever is the vogue spelling, is still with us any longer. You remember the bombing of his home in which one of his son's and grandchildren were said to have been killed? It was the very next day that the bin Ladin raid was announced. Putin had made statements to the media about being none to happy about Ghaddafi's assassination. Then a few weeks went by with no word from Ghaddafi. Which seemed odd considering he made the brilliant chess move of naming al queda as being behind the revolution to topple him.

So I was waiting until he made a media appearance. I probably can't put my hands on it, but the video was of a MUCH younger Ghaddafi wearing sunglasses sitting in a room receiving guests. Do you recall seeing it and what was your take?

[warriorhun]

Dear All,

a very interesting article caught my attention, in The Jerusalem Post online version, no less!
The title of the article is:

Rebels asks leader of UK’s Libyan Jews to run for office

http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Jewish ... ?id=234992
A few quotes to whet your appetites:

The day after the fall of Tripoli to the rebels, the leader of a Libyan-Jewish Diaspora group said he was offered by the emerging ruling power to run for office in free elections in that country.

“I said I would accept it once I see it is real democracy and the proposal is offered,” he said. “If I do it I do it for one matter: the historical matter. The first Arab country that proposed that a Jew run in a free election.”

If he were to return to Libya, Luzon said the reconstruction of the war-torn country and the restitution of Jewish assets which were confiscated by the Libyan regime to their rightful owners would top his political agenda.

For fuck's sweet sake! This is not even subtle, this is right in your face!
This is democracy
Let the Libyans have a Jewish president, make them to eat pork, and make them to parade their women in monokini!
I mean, come on... this is ridiculous!

Jews have lived in Libya since ancient times...
...a series of state-sponsored pogroms after Libya became independent in 1951 took a toll and... (sic: Jews) ...immigrated mostly to Israel, Italy and the UK. The last Jew in Libya left the country almost a decade ago.

...Luzon also did not rule out the option that Israeli Jews of Libyan descent would be free to visit their country of origin similarly to other northern African countries.

So, the Libyans chucked the Jews out of the country with pogroms, but even from far away they did not stop loving Libya and her people... Meaning now they want their gold and power back. Small wonder the bombing of Libya started on Purim-day...

[bostonterrierowner]

The last Jew in Libya left the country almost a decade ago.

I liked this one a lot Sounds like a hollywood blockbuster's title : " Return of the last Jew of Libya" starring Ben Stiller or Adam Sandler

I wonder how they managed to figure out he was the last one

p.s.

I just heard it on the news in my friend's house : EU ready to help new Libya economically .Brussels is getting these greek bonds available without limits One cant make this shit up

[pov603]

I've been watching some of the footage of the Libyan '-?-' [Seriously '-?-', I really do not know what to call it.] and it struck me that the footage is so 'limited' in who and what it actually shows.
The footage is from SkyNews, BBC, Al Jazeera, CNN and i think one channel was EuroNews.
This is just a bit of a ramble however two things come to mind :
One, my spouse said 'Why is CNN showing Sky footage?' which i couldn't actually answer, other than answering with what we already know ie 'it is most likely ALL FAKED and comes from the same source'.
Two, was the amount of gunshots being fired into the air.
Now i have never fired anything stronger than a fun-fair air-rifle but i do know people who have been to places such as Beirut/Lebanon [both Arab and Western] during New Year or other such celebrations who keep out of the way when the Kalashnikovs are 'fired off' into the night sky in celebration.
The reason being...people die when the bullets fall onto your unprotected head!
It is amazing because my spouse was not entirely convinced that this could cause a problem and it is, in my opinion, one of the things Hollywood never deals with ie when the Bad Guy is getting away and the Good Cop fires off a few rounds at the dissappearing car, misses, but doesn't seem overly concerned at where his 'missed rounds' have ended up.
Hey, if he isn't bothered, why should I be as one of the satellite-fee-paying public?
[Or even the Tanks seen firing off "celebratory rounds" into the sea as one reporter mentioned!, honest, I heard him say though did not see who it was and their was no footage of this happening other than generic night sky and sounds of gunfire].
Anyhow, the other footage of the Rebels raiding the compound was limited, of bad quality, repeated [from similar vantages to each news source] footage, didn't show anyone or speak to anyone who was in control, did not show the 'looting' of Ghaddafi's Palace/Compound in the same way one would expect as happened with 'Saddam'.
[By the way, how the news-hounds sounded surprised because Ghaddaffi WAS NOT in his compound when the 'Rebels' arrived...hmmm...why did he not stay so we could see him swing from the nearest lamp-post?...]
And on another note, if South London, Birmingham, Salford or any such other place was to behave in a similar way as is happening in Benghazi/Tripoli [allegedly] to think that Cameron/Clegg would accept this as people asserting their authority and 'right' on matters would be laughable.
They would be out-Assading Assad on their assault on the Rioters...er...Rebels...er...Reprobates...

[Unleashed]

Absolutely great summation, pov. It was non-stop firing into the air when I watched NBC from my Mom's house a few hours ago. It was bright day and he was in front of a green screen so no need for Richard Engel to cower in fear over having a stray bullet land on his head. Though he did mention that after the fall of Cairo earlier this year there were 16 people seriously wounded from celebratory rounds.

You gotta love a revolution where the first order of business before you get the show on the road even is setting up a Central Bank (one presumes to transfer the 144 tons of gold to).

[nonhocapito]

So, the Libyans chucked the Jews out of the country with pogroms, but even from far away they did not stop loving Libya and her people... Meaning now they want their gold and power back. Small wonder the bombing of Libya started on Purim-day...

Yeah I'm not surprised if they consider it their reign now... Let's not forget that the principal motor of this Libyan war has been zion-boy Sarkozy: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... -levy.html

But you can’t just support an uprising. You need somebody to call, and as the revolt grew, Sarkozy had no idea who could speak for the new Libya. At just that moment, BHL, the philosopher, rang the Élysée Palace switchboard to tell the president he’d decided to go to the rebel capital of Benghazi. Sarkozy told BHL to let him know if he found any leaders among the fighters, and the self-styled intellectual swashbuckler needed no further encouragement.

"Manufacturing dissent..."


from http://www.ejpress.org/article/france_election/16491

"Should I remind you the visceral attachment of every Jew to Israel, as a second mother homeland? There is nothing outrageous about it." http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0507/sarkozy.php3