OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

[simonshack]

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MY OSLO ATTACK DIARY (1)

I've decided to keep a little diary to keep all forum members updated on matters related to this OSLO psy-op - and its various interactions with yours truly.

So after the hit piece published by Norway's oldest daily newspaper Adresseavisen (by one Willly Ustad - a veteran ex-military writer and author of UFO books), today I was contacted on my cellphone by a Norwegian journalist from Bergens Tidende - another daily newspaper. We had a long conversation (30 minutes or more) in Norwegian.

His name is Øyvind Lefdal Eidsvik - and here's a link to one of his Utøya-related articles: http://www.bt.no/nyheter/innenriks/--Al ... 42752.html
Øyvind is also administrator of this website: "the Conference on Knowledge and Politics" http://www.knowpol.uib.no/portal/index. ... AN_ITEMS=1

I am not going to transcribe this private conversation - but only convey the general gist of it:

Øyvind was clearly - from the word go - skeptical of the Cluesforum findings. He basically asked me a series of questions which I gladly responded to, asking him to take a better look at this forum's findings. At the end of the long conversation, he dropped his 'million-dollar' question: "Do you actually believe in the things you are telling me?"

I have to wonder whether a honest, well-educated and intelligent journalist would ever drop such a question. It's a bit like suggesting your interviewee is a fool or a liar, isn't it? Anyhow, I learned a lot about interviewing people with that phone call: next time I call Henry Kissinger asking him about his life contributions to this planet - and why he thinks he was given the Nobel Peace Prize - I'll ask him:

"Hmmm... Mr. Kissinger...Do you actually believe in the things you are telling me?"


Øyvind Lefdal Eidsvik (2005)
http://www.svelgen.no/ITNet/notis.aspx? ... ront200511

[brianv]

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MY OSLO ATTACK DIARY (1)

I've decided to keep a little diary to keep all forum members updated on matters related to this OSLO psy-op - and its various interactions with yours truly.

So after the hit piece published by Norway's oldest daily newspaper Adresseavisen (by one Willly Ustad - a veteran ex-military writer and author of UFO books), today I was contacted on my cellphone by a Norwegian journalist from Bergens Tidende - another daily newspaper. We had a long conversation (30 minutes or more) in Norwegian.

His name is Øyvind Lefdal Eidsvik - and here's a link to one of his Utøya-related articles: http://www.bt.no/nyheter/innenriks/--Al ... 42752.html

I am not going to transcribe this private conversation - but only convey the general gist of it:

Øyvind was clearly - from the word go - skeptical of the Cluesforum findings. He basically asked me a series of questions which I gladly responded to, asking him to take a better look at this forum's findings. At the end of the long conversation, he dropped his 'million-dollar' question: "Do you actually believe in the things you are telling me?"

I have to wonder whether a honest, well-educated and intelligent journalist would ever drop such a question. It's a bit like suggesting your interviewee is a fool or a liar, isn't it? Anyhow, I learned a lot about interviewing people with that phone call: next time I call Henry Kissinger asking him about his life contributions to this planet - and why he thinks he was given the Nobel Peace Prize - I'll ask him:

"Do you actually believe in the things you are telling me?"

You should have replied in kind Simon!

[simonshack]

You should have replied in kind Simon!

I did, Brian : I asked him if he believed 100% in the official Oslo Attack tale: he just replied that he could think of no reasons why he shouldn't...

[Mudkipz]

"Do you actually believe in the things you are telling me?"

I met some 150 aspiring journalists during my time at uni studying journalism and this sums up their way of life:

Cognitive dissonance is a discomfort caused by holding conflicting ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance. They do this by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and actions.

Wiki source

This becomes even more true when their career is dependent on their maintaining 'mainstream' opinions. When you write for any particular news outlet the publication's world view has to become their own world view, seeing events through the lens of their employer's opinion regardless of the reality. This is one of the reasons you will always see a partisan take of any given event leaning towards the paper's view regardless of reality.

The trouble is the left and the right are so dependent on the 'validity' of the media be it socialist or conservative, it's like the tablecloth underneath their fine china, remove it and they know that they are fucked.

Journalists are retards, if they weren't, they would all need to be in on the scam. Out of the 150 people i studied with I would say around 10 of them were genuinely intelligent. Probably less.

[Alef]

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhyPc_YKW_M

Ottar Fagerheim (no photos on web) said: seem (sim) like he take photos when he shoot with gun

but nobody on island took photos (or video) like shooting...no! was the time to write

any relation with this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/seljevold/ ... 570178090/

Edward Fornes (very few traces on web); look at the expression on his face

Erik Kursetgjerde and his facebook page
http://nn-no.facebook.com/erikkursetgjerde

...to be continued...

[brianv]

You should have replied in kind Simon!

I did, Brian : I asked him if he believed 100% in the official Oslo Attack tale: he just replied that he could think of no reasons why he shouldn't...

He believes in his salary!

How about suggesting a meetup with him and with the view of trying to get a pass to visit Anders in his prison cell! See how he reacts! A real journalist would jump at the chance!

[Alef]

Erik Kursetgjerde


http://twitter.com/#!/kursetgjerde

[Unleashed]

http://youtu.be/FhyPc_YKW_M

Ottar Fagerheim (seem no photos on web) said: seem (sim) like he take photos when he shoot with gun

but nobody on island took photos (or video) like shooting...no! was the time to write

any relation with this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/seljevold/ ... 570178090/

edward fornes (very few trace on web) look at the expression on his face

Erik Kursetgjerde and his facebook page
http://nn-no.facebook.com/erikkursetgjerde

...to be continued...

The same Ottar Fagerheim?

http://timespotting.net/users/Ottar

http://heyandhello.blogspot.com/2009/05 ... riend.html

^^^^^^

That is a very fine example of backdated blogging to support a ficticious person.
What a load of meaningless drivel.
Graciela "No status" Putri is on my list now!

[nonhocapito]

So after the hit piece published by Norway's oldest daily newspaper Adresseavisen (by one Willly Ustad - a veteran ex-military writer and author of UFO books), today I was contacted on my cellphone by a Norwegian journalist from Bergens Tidende - another daily newspaper. We had a long conversation (30 minutes or more) in Norwegian.

These journalists are nothing more than propagandists who spend their lives "correcting" reality with lies and exaggerations, to the point they eventually lose the ability to recognize their own convictions and statements as artificial. Poor sods.

In any case, their interest in the cluesforum tell us

1) how deep and disrupting an impact we are having on the psyop;

2) how urgent it must be for them to produce attack pieces against us, if they disregard the basic regulation of mainstream media to ignore us and the research on fakery.

Both signs are very encouraging, aren't they?

[Makkonen]

We all remember Henrik Lied, right? Well, it appears that Henrik... lied.

He tweeted that...

My buddy @kimpim took some outstanding photos of the tragic events in Oslo: http://kiim.net/2011/07/24/oslove/
25 Jul via Twitter for Mac
https://twitter.com/#!/henriklied/statu ... 5503896577


...but @kimpim is not the correct "crime-in-partner" twitter account. The correct one is https://twitter.com/#!/kiim . It's Kim Erlandsen, indeed of that OSLove gallery fame.


Kim also has a last.fm account: http://www.last.fm/user/slstn
...plus this rather strange site: http://shiiit.com/


Both Henrik and Kim mention NRK as their employer in their respective twitter account descriptions:

Henrik Lied
@henriklied Oslo, Norway
Author/dev/advisor at @NRKno and @NRKbeta. While not working, I'm up on the mountain riding bikes.
http://henriklied.no

Kim Erlandsen
@kiim Oslo, Norway
Glamourmodell og fotballentusiast. Working Class Hero @ NRK P3
http://www.kiim.net

"Working Class Hero" for the PsyOp division - how sweet.

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BTW if Simon gets to Norway, Kim might not be one of the people rolling out the red carpet if this tweet is anything to go by...

Dette forumet får meg til å le, grine og rive ut øynene mine på samme gang; http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1022 #idiotalarm
27 Aug via Tweetie for Mac
https://twitter.com/#!/kiim/status/107417201274929152

[Tufa]

This thing still puzzles me. The problem is that, in the TV broadcast, the thing is "illuminated". My guess is, for a real object, you would need 1000W+ to get the illumination effect. You need to take a general compare over a longer part of the island pictures, to see that the yellow round thing is back-lit.
[EDIT] Compare the illumination with the white fence, in the bottom of the picture!


If the "flying saucer" is an inserted object, then is the TV broadcast a complete fabrication! The picture, above, is from my recording. Also note that when I wrote "flying saucer" in post 222, no one went into crazy-conspiracy-UFO-mode !

[simonshack]

Dear Makkonen,

The prevailing impression is that these people ("Henrik Lied" & co) dissing our work are warped minds - with nothing to offer in the way of serious debate - and with no human substance whatsoever. I just cannot see why we should allow them to waste a single minute of our time. But don't get me wrong: I do appreciate you (and other forum members) looking into their bogus web impersonations and the utter artificiality of the same. What we are seeing, in my honest opinion, is a dreadful management of the OSLO PSYOP aftermath - on the part of its perpetrators. This operation (designed to "CHANGE NORWAY FOREVER") is a disastrous farce - and the folks behind it are clearly way too incompetent and disorganized to make it work out. It is just a poor carbon-copy of the Oklahoma City sham and of the 9/11 hoax. The Norwegian co-adjutors (from Stoltenberg downwards) are simply not up to the job.

Just watch Norwegian Prime Minister Stoltenberg deliver this scripted speech - on the same day of the 'attacks':

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mGBGspE8FM

This clown is in on it. I have no doubts about it. Do you?

[Makkonen]

Dear Makkonen,

The prevailing impression is that these people ("Henrik Lied" & co) dissing our work are warped minds - with nothing to offer in the way of serious debate - and with no human substance whatsoever. I just cannot see why we should allow them to waste a single minute of our time. But don't get me wrong: I do appreciate you (and other forum members) looking into their bogus web impersonations and the utter artificiality of the same. What we are seeing, in my honest opinion, is a dreadful management of the OSLO PSYOP aftermath - on the part of its perpetrators. This operation (designed to "CHANGE NORWAY FOREVER") is a disastrous farce - and the folks behind it are clearly way too incompetent and disorganized to make it work out. It is just a poor carbon-copy of the Oklahoma City sham and of the 9/11 hoax. The Norwegian co-adjutors (from Stoltenberg downwards) are simply not up to the job.

Thanks Simon,

And yes, I agree that insubstantial hecklers and trolls shouldn't occupy too much of our time. It is interesting, though, to discover what kind of effort there has been put into these various "web personalities". Whether they are "real" or fake, they all seem to reveal, through just little cracks in their shells, a ham-fisted execution that ends or should end their game very quickly in the eyes of anyone even remotely alert.

This clown is in on it. I have no doubts about it. Do you?

No, no doubts from me. In fact, Stoltenberg's "surprisingly" coherent, detailed, and highly melodramatic speech bears an uncanny resemblance (in terms of general tone) to Prableen Kaur's Saturday morning (yes, the 23rd of July!) short story publication - having no characteristics of any spontaneity, incoherence, difficulties to verbalize, etc.; retaining every little detail, hamming up the emotional and dramatic aspects mercilessly, etc.

Stoltenberg and Kaur - and all the other cronies, for that matter - are pathetic sellouts to the "elite" criminal cohorts and thus can be classified as psycho/sociopaths who are only interested in career and money.

[Makkonen]

Hmm, could this be some very, very abstract reinterpretation-concoction of the Big Three Egyptian deities (Osiris, Isis, Horus)?

[simonshack]

Hmm, could this be some very, very abstract reinterpretation-concoction of the Big Three Egyptian deities (Osiris, Isis, Horus)?

Interesting - but let us for now concentrate our efforts on bringing the modern-day hoaxer-criminals to justice. Jens Stoltenberg and co. The guy is an all-too-obvious lackey of the "world elite" - and his awful acting skills will very soon be his downfall. Let's wait and see.