The MOON HOAX

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:12 pm

It's hard to say what to think about this strange movement. There must be something gripping the astronaught's head connected to the inner surface of the helmet. Does that seem like a good design for outer-space, where high speed impacts from debris, dust and rock could come from nowhere and strike the helmet?
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby Jonathan on Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:03 pm

He is checking the equipment he just put on the rover.
What we see from outside is another layer above the actual helmet - from a security standpoint I'd not consider this as more dangerous as it already might be.

That design would indeed be very useful - being able to move the head in all directions unhindered.
But as I understand it - it was already pretty freely movable inside the fixed helmet.

Little gain while adding a lot of complexity to the design.
After all they say they did this to improve their vision while sitting and driving the lunar rover.
For sitting and getting in and out more easily another joint was added as well around the waist.
Did they not sit in their spacecraft in prior missions? And it was really tight to get in and out.

Never again have I seen any astronaut move the head visibly from outside - just in this one shot where he might not have been wearing the complete outfit because he was late on the set for the next shot.

The design (just one very old picture from who knows whom) might well have come later to explain this shot.
Its just one more thing adding incredibility to the story.
That is just me, of course.
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:31 pm

Yes, I understood the helmets to be stationary and offer a wide range of viewing angles, including up.

I suppose discussing the design of a suit isn't that useful to determining whether it was a wasted design or not. But it is weird. Thanks for bringing it up.
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby Jonathan on Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:08 pm

Indeed.
Wasted design was not my point. Its just one way one can look at it from today.

The wierdness is what struck me, having never before and never again seen this kind of movement.

From everything I know, this can't be real.
Yet, it is sold as such - because it is on film shoot on the moon.

There are moments when doubts finally do change the way we look at things.
There are sizable implications, after all.
Seeing this, this was one of those moments for me.
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby Jonathan on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:18 pm

A little update in case anyone is still interested in this.
I just noticed the YT-account (Astrobrant2) where I got the video mentioned above from, was terminated on violation of copyright grounds - so the link will no longer work.

Of course I still have that whole video (39 MB in size) - I made the gif-animation using it.

It was said to be a video from the second EVA of Apollo 15 and it should therefore still be available from NASA Archives.
If and when I find it I'll post a link.
Alternatively I'll make a torrent from the one I have available when there is interest and I get around to do it.

[edit 14-th September 2011]: the account is active again and the video is also still there - the link in previous post is working again
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby guivre on Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:14 pm

Today NASA gave a media teleconference and issued a press releaseon their LRO project. In it they released new images of the supposed Apollo landing sites, showing "rover tracks".

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"We can retrace the astronauts' steps with greater clarity to see where they took lunar samples," said Noah Petro, a lunar geologist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., who is a member of the LRO project science team.

All three images show distinct trails left in the moon's thin soil when the astronauts exited the lunar modules and explored on foot. In the Apollo 17 image, the foot trails, including the last path made on the moon by humans, are easily distinguished from the dual tracks left by the lunar rover, which remains parked east of the lander.

"The new low-altitude Narrow Angle Camera images sharpen our view of the moon's surface," said Arizona State University researcher Mark Robinson, principal investigator for the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). "A great example is the sharpness of the rover tracks at the Apollo 17 site. In previous images the rover tracks were visible, but now they are sharp parallel lines on the surface."


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/lro-briefing-20110906.html

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby SmokingGunII on Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:42 am

This is a better image, guivre.

It's interesting how the LRV tracks goes off in different directions without a turing loop back. Perhaps they just put it in reverse and followed the same tracks back! :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14813043
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby reel.deal on Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:23 am

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14813043


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWvOZPVFOQ

'REMARKABLE NEW IMAGES'
:P
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archives/454-Skimming-the-Moon.html

yeah, 'remarkable'!!!...


NA$A TM OFFICIAL SHIT LO-RES TM VIDEO VERSION TM - ON NA$A TM OFFICIAL LROC TM SITE...
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby pov603 on Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:35 am

At 0.53 when they show the LRV, where are its wheel tracks getting it there?
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby SmokingGunII on Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:35 am

Pov - you're not supposed to ask questions like that! It's a bit like asking where all the "hills" are from the still shots.

You've got to give NASA their due - they don't have an eye for detail! :lol:
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:14 pm

'Moon Rock' Displayed In Dutch Museum Is Really Petrified Wood B)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/2 ... 70306.html

THANKS ! NA$A !!! http://www.zazzle.co.uk/moonhoax
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/spac ... -fake.html


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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/d ... -f1gd.html

"...er, we ran out of meteor stones from Iceland ?..." :ph34r:

:D
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:27 pm

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

:ph34r:
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby reel.deal on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:28 pm


Banned in America: Proof of Fake Moonlanding


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tqZyZVoDM

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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby Jonathan on Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:08 pm

That is part of a VERY good film IMO
- that's part of what I meant with my post in the Endeavour-thread I just made.

Just out of curiosity:
how would: Banned in America ...
(probably referring to the USofA)
affect anyone there?

Is it just marketing?

I know that I can't watch certain clips because YT is not allowed to serve them to germans (to german IP's, that is).
I get shown a notice that "GEMA"
(they licence music... and charge for it... longer story...)
has not approved
(meaning: is not getting paid... supposedly they hold the rights to its use...)
the music used in this clip.
Thus, it often happens that I cannot watch that particular clip.

...unless I use a proxy like blewpass or similar... ;)
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Re: The Moon Hoax

Unread postby Heiwa on Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:47 pm

guivre wrote:Today NASA gave a media teleconference and issued a press releaseon their LRO project. In it they released new images of the supposed Apollo landing sites, showing "rover tracks".

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You would expect that the lunar module, when blasting off from the Moon (to go back and dock to the mother ship high above Moon) would leave some visible traces on Moon ground. Any sign of those anywhere? Anyway, how much energy is required to take the lunar module off the Moon and up into orbit? Remember, that energy must be carried all the way from Earth.
The whole NASA circus on the Moon is just a 42 years old joke. The lunar module lands quietly on the Moon 1969 (in lieu of crashing) - no moon dust on moon ground is blown away anywhere to enable Mr Armstrong to step into the dust, etc, blah, blah.
But the US terrorists got away with it in 1969, so a 911 repeat 2001 is no surprise. In retrospect. It is very easy to fool people, in particular religious unstable Americans. They belive anything shown on TV.
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