OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:38 pm

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'RETARGETING' STILLS and VIDEOS


Firstly, please compare this available STILL photo /versus this available VIDEO frame:

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Try to reconcile the perspectives of these two shots (hint: compare bottom right corners).
Try to imagine -. if you can - where the two persons (a photographer and a videographer) must have been placed in order to produce the 2 above shots. Whatever the outcome of your analysis - does it all add up to a realistic occurence?

Now, let's look at a series of frames from the available video of Breivik's entrance in the courtroom. I have only placed a few arrows and comments here and there - in order to highlight a few problems we may discuss:

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby Reality on Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:58 pm

So what do you think Simon? This is staged? Why would they do that. And who are "they"?

Also, here it is from another angle pretty much making all your arguments invalid.

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7982759
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:04 pm

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"Reality" AND "Hønse Magda"

Who are you - may I ask? All I can see is that you're both from Norway - and that you both just joined TODAY.

You are required to introduce yourself here: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=838

ONCE AGAIN:
All new members MUST introduce themselves - in a proper manner - BEFORE posting on this forum.


"Reality" AND "Hønse Magda" are blocked as a pre-emptive measure to contain what is evidently an umpteenth Norwegian troll attack on this Breivik thread.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:18 pm

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby nonhocapito on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:11 pm

I reverted back the permissions to "emergency" conditions, before the flooding begins...

As of now newly registered users are not allowed to post in the "London, Madrid, Oslo" forum.

Sorry new guys and gals "from Norway" -- we need to be able to make our observations and considerations without having to handle your beloved official truths and point of views. There are plenty of other forums out there for you, where you can feel at home. :P
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby brianv on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:21 pm


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQKiW9vqL6o
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby nonhocapito on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:20 pm

I have placed the two videos side by side.
The first question that pops into my mind, is:

is it normal for the flashes to be so wildly out of sync?

In the first part, as he comes out of the door, they seem to be in sync. Around the sitting down part they go wrong, even though the images keep in sync:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_lY78lkfI
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:57 am

nonhocapito wrote:
In the first part, as he comes out of the door, they seem to be in sync. Around the sitting down part they go wrong, even though the images keep in sync:


Wow - you're quite right, Nonho ...This is some pretty weird stuff! In the first part, these "2 DIFFERENT VIDEOS" appear to be in synch - AND pretty much from the same perspective - apart from the absurd D1 and D2 distances I am highlighting here:

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A few seconds later, we have 2 foreground objects ( A and B) significantly off-perspective ... while the rest looks pretty much ok... Are we supposed to believe that we are looking at "2 different videos shot by 2 different cameramen standing closely side-by side"???
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What a catastrophy this BREIVIK psyop is turning out to be... They are most likely employing a bunch of young nerds for this shit!
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby nonhocapito on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:32 am

Here is a brief sample of the flashes non in sync...

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From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_lY78lkfI

I am willing to admit that, being flashes so very quick and yet so noticeable, if two videos are even slightly not in sync they could theoretically cause a visible defect like this one, while the delay between the rest of the images would be much less perceptible.

But in this case -- I'm not sure: the rest of the images do appear to be really in sync. Look at the hand of the woman as it moves...

And I am also surprised by the fact that nobody seems to be blinded by the flashes. Not for a second. To think that I have my eyes closed in so many pictures because of the flash! And if not, I have to rub my eyes afterwards! These people (Breivik, lawyers, policemen, everyone) seem to be like Hollywood pros accustomed to paparazzi...
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:09 am

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BREIVIK in courtroom : STILL vs VIDEO


Here is a still picture of Breivik - as he enters the courtroom:
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picture source: http://www.h-a.no/Nyheter/Nyheter/tabid ... eId=150253

And here is a video frame of the exact same instant in time (+/- 0,1 seconds):
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source video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO9fWkq79OA

We are therefore asked to believe that TWO persons (a still photographer and a videographer) shot this split-second moment from almost precisely identical vantage points (the still photographer being lucky enough not to have the foreground cop in the frame - and somehow depicting a shorter background cop... ).

THESE STILLS AND VIDEOS ARE MORE LIKELY DIGITALLY MANUFACTURED.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby traumabasedmindcontr on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:28 am

Heiwa wrote:ABB is showing off today at Oslo:
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Source: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslo ... d=10077840


Who writes this stuff!?? On the above page, we read:

- Etter det jeg forstår, var dette en hilsen rettet mot det høyreekstreme miljøet, for at det ikke skulle være tvil om hvilket miljø han tilhører, sier Breiviks forsvare Vibeke Hein Bæra til VGTV etter rettsmøtet.
(- From what I can understand, this was a "salute" directed to circles of the "right-wing", so that there would be no discussion as to his political affiliation, says Breiviks defender Vibeke Hein Bæra to VGTV after the proceedings.)

Can it ever be said clearer than this? We are not watching genuine human beings, acting in "authentic" ways. What we are are watching is a "production", where what is acted out is carefully calculated to give desired responses. There is no authentic "Breivik". There is only the created image of Breivik - who is now our very own scandinavian "Immanuel Goldstein", there for us to project our hate towards.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:53 pm

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THE CHOCOLATE COP

So, I kept wondering about this inexplicable "chocolate finger" - as posted above:
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As it happens, these last two days I have kindly been sent more media image-links by our old Norwegian, foulmouthed friend / former forum troll "Vandalf Gandalf" - who keeps sending me private e-mails - while calling all of us Cluesforum members 'morons' and 'fucktards'.

Among these images, I found more "cop with (or without) chocolate fingers" variations. Here they are illustrated:

The "Now-you-see-me-now-you-don't Chocolate" :Image
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Image source: http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8659

There being no rational explanation for this ( in the real world of real photography ) I can only conclude that this "fluctuating chocolate" is a digital rendering bug of some sort. A simplistic explanation? If you have a better one, I will be happy to hear it. :)

ps: "Vandalf Gandalf" also wrote me this line - in his last private e-mail to me:

"oh, and by the way, a friend of mine was in court today, filming for TV2. According to him Breivik was quite real..."

No way! "Vandalf Gandalf" has a friend who works for TV 2 ! What a surprise! :lol: :rolleyes:
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby brianv on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:32 pm


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOgfgy_gSI
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby pdgalles on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:48 pm

Simon your images have disappeared.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby brianv on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:50 pm

pdgalles wrote:Simon your images have disappeared.


Not quite disappeared for me, but only half loading!
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