mike Singh wrote:So, where are the footprints? Is it another cut and paste job? Or am I getting old?
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Found by Mike Singh from the livingmoon
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AS17-149-22859
Apollo 17 ascent stage in docking maneuvers
ref=> http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-149-22859HR.jpg
First astronut ever seen inside the Apollo LM cardboard hut and it's not doubt CERNAN
I rest my case your honor
Apollo 17 ascent stage in docking maneuvers
ref=> http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-149-22859HR.jpg
First astronut ever seen inside the Apollo LM cardboard hut and it's not doubt CERNAN
I rest my case your honor
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Good gracious...please allow me to get this thought off my chest:
If anyone on THIS world can still believe in NASA's purported, six Apollo Moon Landings (between 1969 and 1972) ...
..I am extremely worried about THE FUTURE of this wonderful planet!
However, if we're all able to overcome this gigantic lie, we will all conquer the moon one day !
Good gracious...please allow me to get this thought off my chest:
If anyone on THIS world can still believe in NASA's purported, six Apollo Moon Landings (between 1969 and 1972) ...
..I am extremely worried about THE FUTURE of this wonderful planet!
However, if we're all able to overcome this gigantic lie, we will all conquer the moon one day !
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Am I the only one pessimistic about it? I mean Simon, are you talking about conquering the Moon as in physically establishing bases and stuff ? or in the metaphorical sense as when you offer the moon to your loved one.simonshack wrote:*
Good gracious...please allow me to get this thought off my chest:
If anyone on THIS world can still believe in NASA's purported, six Apollo Moon Landings (between 1969 and 1972) ...
..I am extremely worried about THE FUTURE of this wonderful planet!
However, if we're all able to overcome this gigantic lie, we will all conquer the moon one day !
If they are faking everything is because they know nobody will ever be able to prove them wrong by going to where they allegedly have gone and taking pictures of same sidereal places that would result completely different in composition and appearance
Edit -- and when I say They ... I am talking about ESA, Roscosmos, Indians, JAXA and all of them liars
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The latter.hollycrap wrote: Am I the only one pessimistic about it? I mean Simon, are you talking about conquering the Moon as in physically establishing bases and stuff ? or in the metaphorical sense as when you offer the moon to your loved one.
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This is the imaginary story about this clip from Apollo 17.
Leaving Shorty they ran the Rover back across Tortilla Flats to their next port of call, Camelot Crater. At 1,800 feet diameter Camelot was the largest crater in the dark central plain with a spread of rocks ejected onto its southern rim. Still running hard up against the time limits imposed by the walk back constraint they hurried to collect samples and soil samples. After a short stop Parker announced, 'We'd like you to leave immediately, if not sooner'. Both astronauts broke into a gallop back to the Rover, Cernan singing an improvised version of the song 'Mule train'. Their return to the LM concluded the penultimate moon walk, which had again set new records for time on the surface and distance travelled at 7.6 hours and 14.5 miles, records which could not be broken by the final EVA's planned route.
=> http://news.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-lancash ... in/A481295
However I have found two different audios for the same video.
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWnes94B26A
We'd like you to leave immediately
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJqDoPHT_c
Cernan singing an improvised version of the song 'Mule train'
Leaving Shorty they ran the Rover back across Tortilla Flats to their next port of call, Camelot Crater. At 1,800 feet diameter Camelot was the largest crater in the dark central plain with a spread of rocks ejected onto its southern rim. Still running hard up against the time limits imposed by the walk back constraint they hurried to collect samples and soil samples. After a short stop Parker announced, 'We'd like you to leave immediately, if not sooner'. Both astronauts broke into a gallop back to the Rover, Cernan singing an improvised version of the song 'Mule train'. Their return to the LM concluded the penultimate moon walk, which had again set new records for time on the surface and distance travelled at 7.6 hours and 14.5 miles, records which could not be broken by the final EVA's planned route.
=> http://news.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-lancash ... in/A481295
However I have found two different audios for the same video.
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWnes94B26A
We'd like you to leave immediately
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJqDoPHT_c
Cernan singing an improvised version of the song 'Mule train'
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In this sequence of the transparent astronauts from Apollo 11 on the Moon, Armstrong seems to grab a tiny US flag and scoot away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK05vJIyPV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK05vJIyPV8
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so ? ...MOONS do gots they GIFTSHOPS too, don'cha know ?hollycrap wrote:In this sequence of the transparent astronauts from Apollo 11 on the Moon, Armstrong seems to grab a tiny US flag and scoot away
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You accusing America's hero-sweetheart Armstrong of shop-theft? You disrespectful moron !hollycrap wrote:In this sequence of the transparent astronauts from Apollo 11 on the Moon, Armstrong seems to grab a tiny US flag and scoot away
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hollycrap wrote: Reel I made this 3D gif of the the rotating LEM from the perspective of The inconsistent lem in the Apollo 17 sequence above,
Can you try to fit it into the sequence to see how it really should have been seen rotating, ---- currently I don't have Photoshop available and working with gimp is extremely painful
nah... ...not enough 'slight' LEM angles in the model to match the 'photos'
spaceman 'photographer' must've been skippin' & dancin' sideways like a crab !!!
its not too hard to find then dwnld photoshop free,
i always had macs & NO internet til 3 years ago.
if i can do it, anyone can.
adobe photoshop cs5 free download full version torrent crack
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=off ... 24&bih=609
you want a torrent FULL version with serial crack & keygen...
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...it was raining.hollycrap wrote:The cardboard model of the Apollo 16 ascent stage does not seem to fit the ascent stage of the google sketchup 3D Model
AS16-113-18329HR
WHO VANDALIZED APOLLO 16's ASCENT STAGE?
According to NASA, the problem were the "thermal blankets" but the thermal blankets underneath appeared intact
nasa wrote: +> = http://history.nasa.gov/ap16fj/a16summary.htm
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hollycrap wrote: WHO VANDALIZED APOLLO 16's ASCENT STAGE?
You guys totally crack me up!reel.deal wrote: ...it was raining.
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According to NASA, explaining the wet cardboard model of Apollo 16, in the Apollo 16 journal ...
I tried to find what they referred to when talking about the thermal blankets ... but could not find any reference.
Let's see what you can find about this side of the Ascent Stage and what kind of equipment was allegedly installed there ...
This diagram shows the ascent stage in an opposite direction as the one portrayed in the Apollo 16 wet cardboard model
The image above shows what they call the AFT equipment bay, composed of "electronic equipment"
displayed from a front perspective here at the Smithsonian.
I tried finding what the AFT equipment bay function was but could find few references ...
The ascent stage of the Apollo LEM is the control center and manned portion of the space vehicle. The vehicle's three main sections are the crew compartment, midsection, and aft equipment bay and tank section. The crew compartment and midsection make up the cabin. The ascent-stage structure consists of several subassemblies: the front face, cabin skin, midsection, and aft equipment bay.
Chronicles of Grumman's 1960s Lunar Excursion Module development
http://www.edn.com/article/521063-Chron ... opment.php
Grumman and Rockedyne were in charge of constructing the Lunar Module.
Compare with this front view of the Apollo 16 cardboard shag.
BTW I was not able to find this image in any other place on the internet.
The difference between the two representations of the ascent module showing the aft whatever is astounding
Found further that the Aft Equipment Bay ....
The Aft Equipment Bay, housing electronic components, was located on the rear of the spacecraft. The bay was unpressurized and included a water-glycol cooling system to prevent equipment from overheating. Two oxygen tanks and two helium tanks were located in the bay.[/b]
http://historicspacecraft.com/Lunar_Module.html
And also
The aft compartment is located around the periphery of the command module at its widest part, just forward of (above) the aft heat shield. The compartment is divided into 24 bays by the 24 frames of the structure. In these bays are 10 reaction control engines; the fuel, oxidizer, and helium tanks for the CM reaction control subsystem; water tanks; the crushable ribs of the impact attenuation system; and a number of instruments. The CM-SM umbilical-the point where wiring an plumbing runs from one module to the other-also is in the aft compartment. The panels of the heat shield around the aft compartment are removable for maintenance of the equipment before flight.
http://www.apollosaturn.com/asnr/module.htm
So it seemed to be a very sensitive area in their Apollo dream scheme
Just imagine if as NASA say it was damaged during the lift off from the moon. The oxygen tanks wood be gone, making impossible their earth round trip completion but the helium tank explosion would have sent our heroes to kingdom come.
http://history.nasa.gov/ap16fj/a16summary.htmNASA wrote:Young and Duke then inspected Casper's SIM Bay to see if they could determine why some of the experiment were not functioning as planned. Ken Mattingly carried out a similar examination of Orion, noticing that the outer thermal blankets on the rear of the Lunar Module were badly damaged, and hanging off the spacecraft. These had been torn loose at engine ignition on the surface the Moon, but the thermal blankets underneath appeared to be intact.
I tried to find what they referred to when talking about the thermal blankets ... but could not find any reference.
Let's see what you can find about this side of the Ascent Stage and what kind of equipment was allegedly installed there ...
This diagram shows the ascent stage in an opposite direction as the one portrayed in the Apollo 16 wet cardboard model
The image above shows what they call the AFT equipment bay, composed of "electronic equipment"
displayed from a front perspective here at the Smithsonian.
I tried finding what the AFT equipment bay function was but could find few references ...
The ascent stage of the Apollo LEM is the control center and manned portion of the space vehicle. The vehicle's three main sections are the crew compartment, midsection, and aft equipment bay and tank section. The crew compartment and midsection make up the cabin. The ascent-stage structure consists of several subassemblies: the front face, cabin skin, midsection, and aft equipment bay.
Chronicles of Grumman's 1960s Lunar Excursion Module development
http://www.edn.com/article/521063-Chron ... opment.php
Grumman and Rockedyne were in charge of constructing the Lunar Module.
Compare with this front view of the Apollo 16 cardboard shag.
BTW I was not able to find this image in any other place on the internet.
The difference between the two representations of the ascent module showing the aft whatever is astounding
Found further that the Aft Equipment Bay ....
The Aft Equipment Bay, housing electronic components, was located on the rear of the spacecraft. The bay was unpressurized and included a water-glycol cooling system to prevent equipment from overheating. Two oxygen tanks and two helium tanks were located in the bay.[/b]
http://historicspacecraft.com/Lunar_Module.html
And also
The aft compartment is located around the periphery of the command module at its widest part, just forward of (above) the aft heat shield. The compartment is divided into 24 bays by the 24 frames of the structure. In these bays are 10 reaction control engines; the fuel, oxidizer, and helium tanks for the CM reaction control subsystem; water tanks; the crushable ribs of the impact attenuation system; and a number of instruments. The CM-SM umbilical-the point where wiring an plumbing runs from one module to the other-also is in the aft compartment. The panels of the heat shield around the aft compartment are removable for maintenance of the equipment before flight.
http://www.apollosaturn.com/asnr/module.htm
So it seemed to be a very sensitive area in their Apollo dream scheme
Just imagine if as NASA say it was damaged during the lift off from the moon. The oxygen tanks wood be gone, making impossible their earth round trip completion but the helium tank explosion would have sent our heroes to kingdom come.
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Excellent work Hollycrap. Masses of bizarrre inconsistencies.
A thought: does the size/shape of the subordinate up-thruster jet nozzle on the underside of the LEM, used during accelerating departure...
(close-up taken from Hollycrap's rare pic)
appear to be identical to the size/shape of the main up-thruster jet nozzle used during landing? Why should that be?
Is it a scale illusion that they look so similar? Wouldn't this nozzle need to be considerably larger, to decelerate the LM/LEM piggyback heavyweight combo during landing? Is that not the case, and it's just that they superficially appear to be similar? The usually-visible one, at the centre of the three-legged puzzle squatting on the lunar surface, always gives me the impression that it's not a machined bell casting- it looks like just a pressed metal construct, with an edge lip-fold. Like as in a museum copy, more like some aluminium two-dimensional origami than a conduit for raw energy.
Talking of museum comparisons (and please do keep the search up for Smithsonian-style images, especially real-world Cluescatcher member pics), what do we make of this unattributed image that I stumbled across on Ebay...?
http://www.openprint.eu/images/A1-P/24352.jpg
Does this represent (1) An Official Story LM/LEM on the supposed lunar surface, or (2) An Official Story training environment picture taken on earth, or (3) A present-day picture taken in an aerospace museum....somewhere? Or (4) a scale model model picture? Remember my earlier opinion about the apparent lack of Official Story training environment pictures, and the consequent possibility that they maybe looked too like the purported 'real' thing for comfort....does anyone know of any accepted shots of astronots, minus helmets, sucking sodas and tax dollars and chatting to the crew, taken during a slack moment at The Facility?
And whilst looking at the vast range of Apollo memorabelia on sale via eBay, I saw this really-interesting item....a collected group of signatures, one from each of the twelve disciples that claim to have walked-the-walk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-Apollo-Moo ... 3f166c8a05
Be quick if you want to place a bid, there's less than six hours left for the auction. Two bids haven't yet met the reserve price of 4,500GBP/7,300USD/5,500EUR/42,000NOK. And if you have any concerns as to the provenance of this apparently-unique piece, please don't worry....a Certificate of Authenticity is included in the sale.
A thought: does the size/shape of the subordinate up-thruster jet nozzle on the underside of the LEM, used during accelerating departure...
(close-up taken from Hollycrap's rare pic)
appear to be identical to the size/shape of the main up-thruster jet nozzle used during landing? Why should that be?
Is it a scale illusion that they look so similar? Wouldn't this nozzle need to be considerably larger, to decelerate the LM/LEM piggyback heavyweight combo during landing? Is that not the case, and it's just that they superficially appear to be similar? The usually-visible one, at the centre of the three-legged puzzle squatting on the lunar surface, always gives me the impression that it's not a machined bell casting- it looks like just a pressed metal construct, with an edge lip-fold. Like as in a museum copy, more like some aluminium two-dimensional origami than a conduit for raw energy.
Talking of museum comparisons (and please do keep the search up for Smithsonian-style images, especially real-world Cluescatcher member pics), what do we make of this unattributed image that I stumbled across on Ebay...?
http://www.openprint.eu/images/A1-P/24352.jpg
Does this represent (1) An Official Story LM/LEM on the supposed lunar surface, or (2) An Official Story training environment picture taken on earth, or (3) A present-day picture taken in an aerospace museum....somewhere? Or (4) a scale model model picture? Remember my earlier opinion about the apparent lack of Official Story training environment pictures, and the consequent possibility that they maybe looked too like the purported 'real' thing for comfort....does anyone know of any accepted shots of astronots, minus helmets, sucking sodas and tax dollars and chatting to the crew, taken during a slack moment at The Facility?
And whilst looking at the vast range of Apollo memorabelia on sale via eBay, I saw this really-interesting item....a collected group of signatures, one from each of the twelve disciples that claim to have walked-the-walk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-Apollo-Moo ... 3f166c8a05
Be quick if you want to place a bid, there's less than six hours left for the auction. Two bids haven't yet met the reserve price of 4,500GBP/7,300USD/5,500EUR/42,000NOK. And if you have any concerns as to the provenance of this apparently-unique piece, please don't worry....a Certificate of Authenticity is included in the sale.