9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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I don't think Michael and Rudy are borrowing each other's dresses....
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Just my 2 cents in case it may be of interest...
When comparing faces of two people, I think it's worth considering how similar two completely unrelated people can look.
I'm not suggesting that anyone else here has Prosopagnosia, but I have discovered that quite a number of people I know, or talk to about Prosopagnosia do seem to have problems recognising faces. Also, that in general many people aren't as good at recognising faces as they think they are. Few people seem to fall into the "Super Recogniser" category for instance.
I discovered I have Prosopagnosia at age 35.
Years before either of us knew about, or realised we had Prosopagnosia, a friend of mine who also has, came up with the "Nine Face Theory". Basically he decided that that there are 9 basic face types and that the majority of people you meet will have a face that matches one of the nine types. So that is why the majority of people are so hard for us to recognise. The few people who don't match these types are the few faces we do manage to recognise. (I don't know if he actually studied and counted nine types, I suspect he just randomly picked a number for the sake of giving his theory a name.) The idea works for us in practice anyway, despite the lack of scientific research B)
Face Readers have a number of basic face types too, just like in palmistry there are a certain number of hand types that the larger number of peoples hands fall into. I think with face reading, they just have four types though.
I suspect this is why DallasGoldBug / Ed Chiarini is able to match so many people in his video clips by layering on face over the other and adjusting the opacity level to claim two or more people as being the same person, when they are most definitely not. People fall for it because they think humans should look very different to each other.

Maybe Tanya Head is Michael Moore, who knows, but I suspect they are just two different people with a similar shaped face and thyroid problems.

Anyway, as I said, just 2 cents. Perhaps that was even 1 cent ^_^

A couple of links:

http://prosopagnosiaresearch.org/index/information

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 051909.php
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The Gardner/Glasser/Gooding athletic trio

Douglas B. Gardner '83 -- Tom Glasser '82 -- Calvin Gooding '84

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http://www.haverford.edu/athletics/iac/ ... nities.htm

This G-trio provides a pretty droll case-study of clumsy VicSim "chain-assembly"... As the tale goes, all those three "G-guys" were former alumni (in successive classes of '82, '83,'84) of the Haverford college - all three active athletes in the same institution. All three ... 'died on 9/11':
...three former Haverford College student-athletes and loyal alumni - Douglas B. Gardner (men's basketball), Thomas B. Glasser (men's track & field), and Calvin Gooding (men's basketball) - who died tragically on September 11, 2001 in New York City.
http://www.haverford.edu/athletics/iac/index.htm
This seemingly abandoned website of Haverford.edu tells us that :

"(...)the College, in consultation with Doug's classmate, professional colleague, and best friend, Howard Lutnick '83, named the Integrated Athletic Center after Doug to honor his passing on September 11, 2001, in the World Trade Center. It was also decided to honor Tom Glasser '82 and Calvin Gooding '84 through naming appropriate parts of the new Center."


Yes, folks - that's the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, our ol' pal HOWARD LUTNICK, who claims to have lost 658 of his employees on 9/11. In fact, both GARDNER and GOODING allegedly worked for Cantor Fitzgerald. But there's a little problem: only GARDNER is listed in the official Cantor Families memorial website: Why is GOODING missing from his workplace's 9/11 memorial?

(Btw, the other "G-victim" of Haverford, Thomas GLASSER, is duly listed in his alleged workplace's (Sandler O'Neill) 9/11 memorial: http://sandleroneillfamily.com/glasser.htm )

So why is GOODING not listed in his workplace's official 9/11 Memorial? Could it be because he's been 'forgotten' - due to being the only one of the "G-trio" who doesn't have a fund-raising foundation in his name? To be sure, both GARDNER and GLASSER have one:

"The Douglas B. GARDNER Foundation is a non-profit organization dedicated to helping disadvantaged kids from the five boroughs of NYC"
http://www.dbgfoundation.org./about.html

"Donors to the new Thomas GLASSER Caregivers Center have given $2.7 million for the new program."
http://www.overlookfoundation.org/In-th ... -Cent.aspx

Anyhow, in the mind of anyone familiar with our VicSim research, the simple fact that these three "former Haverford, athletic alumni" have alphabetically, closely sequential surname initials (GA / GL / GO), a little alarm bell should be ringing. Personally, I cannot digest this umpteenth "9/11 coinci-happenstance". I then found out that a FOURTH Haverford alumni is supposed to have died on 9/11. His name? Philip HAENTZLER. Which, of course, gives us a neat "GA / GL / GO / HA" alphabetical sequence for the four 'former Haverford-alumni 9/11 victims'...

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About Philip Haentzler - on Steven Warran's blog: http://stevenwarran-backstage.blogspot. ... tzler.html
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Hi :)

Not sure if this has been noticed before, if so I appologise ^_^

This guy..

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Reminds me of Rene from 'Allo 'Allo (UK WW2 sitcom from the 1980's) Actor Gordon Kaye

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Uncanny resemblance. :huh:
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Interesting that the only reference to "Patti (Patty) Varrone (Varone)" that I could find online is in the claim by journalist Caitlin Kelly of her supposedly "exclusive interview" with Giuliani's "bodyguard" for her scam-promoting book "Blown Away: American Women and Guns".

This is the only "photo" of Giuliani with a female purported to be that person (totally different name spelling and appearance from "Patti Varrone" of the "In Memoriam" 'documentary' video frame above):

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@ http://theopencase.com/perma-link.php?id=420
"A female cop helped save his life on 9/11. Image by Getty Images via Daylife"
For my book on women and guns, which includes a chapter called In The Line of Fire, I exclusively interviewed Patty Varone, a gorgeous 40-something, and an NYPD veteran who served for nine years, including on 9/11, for former New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

She told me she routinely got hit on at events as, doing her job by standing some distance away from the mayor and watching the crowd carefully, guys would see her and assumed the good-looking redhead must be there socially, not professionally.

“Funny the mayor doesn’t have any security,” they’d say. “Funny,” she’d agree.

Yet it was from her mouth to his ear that morning that the World Trade Center had been hit. She’s my hero! [ :puke: ]
Lightened (w/ Gamma correction) Rudy's 'Siamese twin' :blink: — also note cut-out crowd washes out, except outlines against background:
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Cross-eyed "Varone".......................................with typical red painted neck lines = pasted in:
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Patti Varrone aka Patty Varone [Var(iation)one] is obviously a totally fictitious character they can't even get the face or eyes straight on, let alone decide how to spell its name :rolleyes:

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To see the fleeting clip of "Patti Varrone" [Var(iation)r(udy)one?] in that 9-11 farce In Memoriam ('Part 2' of 5 on Youtube) click this timestart link ► 6:47

Once again in Part 32:47

Compare: "Varrone" — Rudy — "Varone"
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Viterbi wrote:
NEW YORK—Bill Steckman was working on Tuesday morning, Sept. 11, 2001, shortly before 9 o'clock. But unlike thousands of others in the North Tower of the World Trade Center, the WNBC-TV transmitter engineer was not just reporting to work. Instead, he had already finished his regular overnight shift and remained at his post a bit longer to help install some new digital equipment.

Minutes after the tower was hit by a commercial jetliner, Steckman was able to get word out by phone of the encroaching smoke on the 104th floor—half of which WNBC-TV shared with financial bond trader Cantor Fitzgerald.
Nota Bene: There's a charitable fund created to help the families of the "six dead TV engineers" in 9/11, as in the case of many others "victims":

"In the days immediately following the 9/11 attacks, the charitable arm of the Society of Broadcast Engineers created the Broadcast Engineer Relief Fund to help the families of the six men. Don DiFranco of WABC was an active SBE member.

"With donations from many members of SBE, and vendors and industry foundations, we were pleased to send checks of $42,500 each to every family… without any strings attached," said SBE President Vinny Lopez. "Every penny [raised] went directly to the families."

Also, the New York chapter of NABET-CWA, Local 16, had set up a Scholarship Fund in memory of DiFranco, which continues today. Donated funds are used for scholarships for offspring of Local 16 members to pursue technical degrees at Staten Island Community College."
The tale of Bill Steckman's death, the emotional story of a media worker who "sacrificed" his life in 9/11 in order to help the broadcasting of the event being done, was used by Swanson just before telling his catchphrase (3:40):

"The reality is that media did a great job on 9/11"


Also is interesting another great phrase of Swanson (4:40):

"The media cooperated with shared resources and forgot about whether we were competitors and not to get that job done".

Sure they did.

And at the end of the speech, Swanson gave Brewster Kahle two tapes with the infamous Fox 5 "9/11 live coverage", the medley of the pool of images used by others networks with the deletion of WNYW's "Nose-Out" and the infamous "Aziz Ellahan interview" as historical highlights.
Not drifting to far of the archives subject.
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He had installed a camera and intercom outside the front door, viewable from his basement work room he could talk to people who visited. Bill had created what nowadays would be considered an early version of Skype.


Yes thats right folks, The man pretty much invented the video program skype. :lol: And there is not ONE home video of him anywhere?????? Only just a few candid "photos"....
Take the equinox challenge and bring forth ANY home video or any video footage of the 9/11 Victims 3000 ( times minimal 3 home videos some where on the planet) .... 9000 should be out there at least! ... Should be an easy task. B)
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Equinox - LOL at the two tux photos. Same face angle, feaTures - different tux! :lol: ;)

What are the chances, Eh?????
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SmokingGunII wrote:Equinox - LOL at the two tux photos. Same face angle, fetaures - different tux! :lol: ;)

What are the chances, Eh?????
Same face angle as UA 93!!
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Did Bill Steckman suffer the same "Taco neck" as UA Flight 93 "taco neck"?
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:lol: :P
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According to Voices of September 11th the 9/17/2001, six days after the Twin Towers disappeared, Michael Groticelli wrote an article in the magazine "Broadcasting & Cable" entitled Six Towers Broadcasters Missing

http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... 1111734713

Six Tower Broadcasters Missing
By Michael Grotticelli, Broadcasting & Cable 9/17/01

Six broadcast engineers manning broadcast transmitters in Tower 1 have not been heard from since last Tuesday's attack on the World Trade Center.
The identified sources of the article were exclusively chief engineers of the networks.
The NBC engineer is William Steckman. According to an NBC representative, he was last heard from shortly after the first hijacked jetliner hit Tower 1. He said he was "powering down" the transmitter and getting out.

The CBS engineers are Bob Pattison and Isaias Rivera. Robert Seidel, vice president of engineering for the CBS network, said the two engineers, who were on the 103rd floor, called on their cell phone to say they were trapped minutes before the building collapsed.

The missing WABC-TV engineer. 43-year-old Donald DiFranco, was on the 104th floor finishing up work on the DIV digital transmitter that was set to go online soon. said WABC-TV Chief Engineer Kurt Hansen.

WPIX-TV engineering chief Michael Gano said that Steve Jacobson was working on the the 110th floor when the terrorists stuck.

WNET Chief Engineer Ken Devine said
his station does not regularly have people at the WTC but one of his engineers, 47-year-old Rod Coppola, happened to be working there Tuesday morning. "It's obviously a very difficult situation."
http://nysbroadcasters.org/history/hall-of-fame/

Four years later, in 2005, the New York State Broadcasters Association decided to create a Hall of Fame "to honor the elite of New York State broadcasting"

http://nysbroadcasters.org/history/hall ... inductees/

We can find in the list of inductees to the new Hall of Fame of the New York State Broadcasters Association media personalities like Al Ascombe or Walter Cronkite. We also find Dennis Swanson, who was appointed as chairman of the New York Broadcasters Association in 2000, one year before 9/11. But the most symbolic first guests of the Hall of Fame of the NYSBA were certainly the "9/11 engineers" (as they are depicted in the list, without individual names).

Here you have them:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... engineers/

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"Steven Jacobson". His right ear is certainly peculiar in this picture.

His induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... bson05.wmv

Only four still pictures of him. One of them (the same that we can see in the Hall of Fame), cropped to be used twice. But the second time, without the feminine hand in his shoulder.


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"Bill Steckman". His right ear is bizarre, as the shadow of his head. It seems also that his right shoulder and the right edge of his face were cropped from another picture and pasted in the background without any care.

His induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... kman05.wmv

Only one still picture of him.


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"Gerard "Rod" Coppola". Strange right ear. Wonderful camera flash also: any shadow on his face. But good tuxedo, although it can be nearly indistinguishable from the background.

His induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... pola05.wmv

Only one still picture of him.


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"Isaias Rivera". Not a pretty good picture to honor a Hall of Fame inductee, for sure.

His induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... a%2005.wmv

Only two different still pictures of him.


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"Bob Pattison". Maybe Rivera's Hall of Fame picture was not as bad as it could seem.

His induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... ison05.wmv

Only two different still pictures of him. But he was a good soldier.


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And "Donald Di Franco". Not a picture to take as an example of good use of Photoshop selection tools: the hair is crassly cropped and the background is poorly integrated.

His induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... anco05.wmv

Only two different still pictures of him.


To compare, that's the 2005 Hall of Fame induction video of Phillip R. Beuth:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... euth05.wmv

Fourteen different still pictures, in only six seconds more than in the case of the "9/11 engineers"


The EXIF data of the six pictures in the Hall of Fame of the "9/11 engineers" shows as "last modified date/time" the midnight of 6/10/2009. They were inductees since 2005, though.


And who was responsible of the tribute to "Bill Steckman" in Voices of September 11th?

http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... 1073874121
Tribute by Dennis Swanson

Good morning, I am Dennis Swanson president of NBC. Thank you all for coming to honor Bill Steckman and his family. My thanks to Barbara for allowing us from WNBC to participate and voice tribute to our missing co-worker.
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Woah, Viterbi!

Where did you find those hilarious "Hall of Fame" induction videos? Absolutely priceless! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Great work, man.
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Hilarious, the contrast between the tributes to the VicSims and the tribute to the real fellow.

Excellent detective work, sir!
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simonshack wrote:Woah, Viterbi!

Where did you find those hilarious "Hall of Fame" induction videos? Absolutely priceless! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Great work, man.
Thanks, I appreciate that.

Regarding the "induction videos", there's a little trick.

If you try to access to the videos in the webpage where they are linked, is not possible. It seems that the links are broken or there's some kind of server error. Or perhaps some perp in the NYSBA saw the blatant scam so obvious that decided to hide it to the public.

For example, in the case of Jacobson induction video:

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2 ... cobson.wmv

But if you go to the file root of the webpage, only by removing in the url the last section on the link, (NYSBA%202005%20Jacobson.wmv), then you have the internal index of the videos. From here, you have access to all the induction videos.

http://www.nysbroadcasters.org/videos/2005/

I humbly recommend that some copies of the videos were made to preserve these hilarious documents for future generations.
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Poor Isaias Rivera. That is one of the most hideous looking necks I've ever seen!
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