A problem with all manned space travel, be it a week/ten days to the Moon or a 10 monts trip to far away Mars, is that you must provide energy (fuel) to heat the vehicle and electricity for various services so the astronauts aboard will survive. As far as I am concerned NASA has not resolved that problem ... ever.lux wrote:Does NASA offer an explanation for how to recharge them on Mars?
@HeiwaHeiwa wrote:A problem with all manned space travel, be it a week/ten days to the Moon or a 10 monts trip to far away Mars, is that you must provide energy (fuel) to heat the vehicle and electricity for various services so the astronauts aboard will survive. As far as I am concerned NASA has not resolved that problem ... ever.lux wrote:Does NASA offer an explanation for how to recharge them on Mars?
Very true pov.pov603 wrote:
It seemed counter-intuitive but the reasoning was that as space is a vacuum there was nothing in it to dissipate the heat so a spaceship would have a constant build up of heat from the sun rays/light.
Anyone any thoughts?
Well, first of all energy as light and heat is emitted by the Sun (by thermonuclear action) and arrives at our little Earth a little later (some lightminutes!) and warms you and me. Very cosy! Between Sun and Earth is a void or vacuum through which the heat and light transmits.pov603 wrote:@Heiwa
I am not disputing your comments [...here comes my 'but'...] I did read some while back [I will try and find out/remember where] that one simple problem a spaceship would suffer from in space was a build-up of heat within the vehicle not a heat loss.
It seemed counter-intuitive but the reasoning was that as space is a vacuum there was nothing in it to dissipate the heat so a spaceship would have a constant build up of heat from the sun rays/light.
Anyone any thoughts?
I take your points but you need to also consider that they will not 'produce' more than they are already suppposed to be taking ie whatever food products taken on board, its mass would only be converted to some energy/calories used by the Astro-noughts and the rest turned into 'waste' which, with technological advances/common sense can be utilised as [dare I say it without conjuring up Oslo?] fertiliser for any plant life they may be 'growing' on board.Heiwa wrote:Well, first of all energy as light and heat is emitted by the Sun (by thermonuclear action) and arrives at our little Earth a little later (some lightminutes!) and warms you and me. Very cosy! Between Sun and Earth is a void or vacuum through which the heat and light transmits.pov603 wrote:@Heiwa
I am not disputing your comments [...here comes my 'but'...] I did read some while back [I will try and find out/remember where] that one simple problem a spaceship would suffer from in space was a build-up of heat within the vehicle not a heat loss.
It seemed counter-intuitive but the reasoning was that as space is a vacuum there was nothing in it to dissipate the heat so a spaceship would have a constant build up of heat from the sun rays/light.
Anyone any thoughts?
Now imagine you are in a space ship or suitable vehicle in SPACE between Sun and Earth looking for some comet or so speeding along and you have to go to the toilet.
I assume your space vehicle has a suitable toilet and you go there and ... you know ... shit!
Imagine now some space idiots going to Mars (from Earth) and it takes 5 months. Imagine the amount of shit they produce in that time. Where do they put it??
I belong to the deep, deep, very deep GREEN save the space environment movement and PLEASE ... do not shit in my UNIVERSE.
Same goes for GWB and Condoleezza.
Difference between transcontinental, e.g. UK/Aussi and space Earth/Mars flights is external. Transcontinenntal -50°C/500 hPa outside, space -270°C/0 hPa outside. The space atmosphere is pretty thin - a molecule here and there, not much - so friction in space is negligible compared to transcontinental. Anyway, heat produced inside your cosy space vehicle/saucer will escape through the walls into external space. It is only a question of time and insulation until it gets chilly inside. And light inside must be produced locally, i.e. you must carry it with you. Like on a transcon flight.pov603 wrote:It is no different a scenario to the matter of airliners not disposing their waste into the atmosphere [allegedly] when on trancontinental flights.
In my thread titled "NASA's sun-powered Juno spacecraft", I explain how every single issue even if it has nothing at all to do with space is being spun off as having to do with aliens in some way, and that we can expect to see more of this kind of fallacious reporting by the MSM as time goes along. This is the case of the propagandist taking his stance deliberately on inconsistencies to do exactly what you describe in the last paragraph, and that is to alter their perception in preparation for future false flag events (the "Ancient Aliens" series is a prime example of this), skillful propaganda at work.nonhocapito wrote:An identical sphere fell in 1991, apparently, and was identified as a helium tank in titanium from the "Salyut 7/Kosmos 1686" satellite.
See this page: http://fernlea.tripod.com/tank.html and confront
1991 sphere, from http://fernlea.tripod.com/tank.html
2011 sphere, from http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html
It seems to me that once again we are witnessing the spinning of events in favor of unfounded conspiracies. "Aliens" rather than "satellite parts".
Stating the obvious: This irresponsible attitude towards the "news", that was once attributed entirely to alternative media, is now largely a prerogative of mainstream media, without any apparent leftover need to verify rumors and theories before spreading them.
Sure, this can be explained away with the need of the media to always absorb the public's attention. But is can also be a form of slow, constant brainwashing, in order to accustom the public to always expect some strange, impossible, weird story behind every event, so to be ready to accept faked events more readily, when the time comes.
lux wrote:^ Don't forget Sammy Davis, Jr.
And Peter Falk (Columbo) 