HonestlyNow wrote:kervik wrote:Where do the rockets go? . . .Whenever I see the rockets I wonder where are they going?
maat wrote: . . . but where have you seen "rockets" —
Maat, et al. --
For so long I've not said anything on here about this, but I will now.
I have seen on three separate occasions,
the last one being in January (I think) of 2011, rocket launches heading "out into space". It was this last one that got me curious. I never did follow
the space program. So I looked up about that launch, and I forgot
the details, but I then started following my curiosity about something I'd heard from someone in 1989 that "we didn't really go to
the moon". My journey eventually led me to this site (via
the 9/11 event).
What I am saying is that I have seen three of these air events from 120 miles away, and no matter what you say, you can not debunk
the evidence of my senses.
This is my first post so please excuse me if I get board etiquette here a little wrong. HonestlyNow you appear to be saying that you are certain that these rockets fly up into
the sky because you have seen these events live.
The "evidence of your senses" is technically called empirical evidence. Clearly though observing something live is (and should be) more compelling to
the mind receiving
the visual image than observing something "second hand" on video or film, which might be easily faked.
The movie "
Wag the Dog" was an amusing film about how easily
the common masses of people will believe their TV with a quasi-religious kind of blind faith that seeing is believing.
However even observing something live does not mean that your mind cannot be hoaxed into believing that it has perceived something that was false rather than true. Remember that if you have been hypnotised you may perceive many things that are not true. A stage magician can also trick a live audience into thinking that something utterly astounding has just happened. But if you are later shown how
the "magic trick" was performed
the methods of achieving
the magical visual illusion could be quite simple.
The US Military also often use a form of "live magic tricks" in their "Military Deception Operations" --- like at their 9/11 false flag event.
Do I believe that since
the 1940s man has been able to shoot large rockets into space, outside of Earth's atmosphere? Yes, I think that I do. So I have no problem with you saying that you have personally perceived rockets flying upwards into
the sky and thus believe
the evidence of your senses that they do.
Do I believe that man has been to
the moon? No, I have seen no compelling evidence that man has been to
the moon. Where did all
the rocket hardware go after they flew upwards into space? I don't know, but I would guess that quite a lot of
the hardware that went flying up into
the sky has since fallen back into
the atmosphere, to burn up and/or fall mainly into
the oceans of this planet. If it hasn't yet fallen back to Earth then it may still be in orbit, as space junk. Probably not a very good idea as that could lead to catastrophic collisions between bits of hardware up in Earth Orbit in
the future.
If you go here you will see some of
the reasons why I personally do not believe that man has ever been to
the moon.
http://ayoung2084.com/bbs/viewtopic.php ... 1e1475532f
No conspiracy theory there either. My concern is how to stop a rocket ... anywhere. Thrust applied at 
Where 
Who is trying to debunk that people (including another clues member) have seen some kind of rockets launched from a long way away? My question to