Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
And do most trolls as such take the time to follow up with a private message to another member explaining his answer? Forgive me for not seeing the logic in your thought processes.
Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
That's why Euphoria is my favouriteLibero wrote:And do most trolls as such take the time to follow up with a private message to another member explaining his answer? Forgive me for not seeing the logic in your thought processes.
Troll accusations?
Oh dear. Not this again. Alfie, please explain why you think I'm a troll. With regards to the MarcoBuchel77 account, nobody would confront politicians or journalists personally on Twitter, without covering their tracks. It's entirely reasonable to exercise caution. Using different names and/or finding somebody skilled at working with proxies, is a good way to do this.Alfie wrote:Euphoria - You are my favourite troll of all time!
Hey, I have an idea. Why don't you try it, using your full name, and entering your full postal address in Twitter's 'location' box? No? Well then, you see where I'm coming from, don't you?!
I have to say I'm quite disappointed that I have to deal with petty accusations like this. Look at all my contributions to the forum so far. I even repeated my PM openly on the board, with only slightly different wording, just after I had sent it to you.
Seriously, I believe throwing allegations of shillery around too easily, devalues our work here. It also wastes space on the thread.
Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
There have been occasions you have posted info, then I follow up - you deleted and changed info.
Then ...I'm interested in ukcolumn,
suddenly..
I get a private message?
publish message...
get Libero...
?
Then ...I'm interested in ukcolumn,
suddenly..
I get a private message?
publish message...
get Libero...
?
Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
With respect, I think you're reading too much into something that isn't there. The owner of this site might be able to confirm that Libero is posting from another IP address, probably another country.Alfie wrote:There have been occasions you have posted info, then I follow up - you deleted and changed info.
Then ...I'm interested in ukcolumn,
suddenly..
I get a private message?
publish message...
get Libero...
?
I often re-edit, I admit that. I thought I explained the Jon Kelly issue? I didn't realise there were two of them at the BBC, so I had fired an email off to [email protected]. I was bemused by the smug autoresponder, but I later realised this was the email account of the 'wrong' Jon Kelly (CBBC, he's probably even weirder than Jon Kelly 2!). Therefore, I thought it would be best to take it down.
John Mather and ACC Gary Shewan on Twitter
Below, it seems John Mather has been enjoying some banter on Twitter with fellow Dale Cregan PSYOP hoaxer ACC Gary Shewan, of Greater Manchester Police:
I wonder if they met (again?) at the 'funeral' of the vicsims? And below, Mather gives the thumbs up to underage sex!
Considering his extensive low grade porn career, I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised!
I wonder if they met (again?) at the 'funeral' of the vicsims? And below, Mather gives the thumbs up to underage sex!
Considering his extensive low grade porn career, I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised!
Fiona Bone VicSim a lesbian?
I see that the perps have managed to reference alternative lifestyles into this hoax:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/0 ... manchester
'Bone lived in Sale, Greater Manchester, with her partner Clare Curran, with whom she was planning a civil partnership, and Clare's daughter Jessie. She was said to be "so happy" in life, planning their wedding and on the day she died had spoken to Curran to discuss invites to send to guests.'
And the same Guardian article reveals another perp:
'Sergeant Stephen Miskell told the congregation that Bone was "a perfect police officer"'.
'He said: "Fiona was wonderful. She was wonderful at keeping colleagues' spirits high with her bubbly nature. She was wonderful about caring for others. Fiona represented the best that humanity has to offer the world but that makes her loss even greater."'
And more perps, from the Manchester Evening News:
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... fiona-bone
'Fiona's colleague in Tameside, Insp Jane Brown, delivered the first reading, Psalm 139, before the Rev Nevin read the poem She is Gone.'
'Pc Tracey Miskell delivered the second reading...'
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As an aside, I note that 'Fiona Bone' was not raised in the Manchester area. Her connections to Lancashire date back only to her late teens/early 20s. This from the same MEN article:
'Born in Norwich, Fiona was brought up in Scotland before she moved to live of the Isle of Man, where her family still live.'
'Sir Peter said Fiona, from Sale, was a keen climber, walker and fitness enthusiast who also worked with St John Ambulance and with a waterway restoration group.'
'After graduating from the University of Central Lancashire...'
And more information on the Vicsim's history here: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... z28LVZ5kP3
The family moved to the Isle of Man in July 1997 and Pc Bone completed her sixth form studies there before she went to the University of Central Lancashire to study film and media.
'Pc Bone will have a private burial in Scotland, attended only by close family and friends.'
Now, the University of Central Lancashire in Preston itself weighs in:
http://www.uclan.ac.uk/news/uclan_pays_ ... aduate.php
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/0 ... manchester
'Bone lived in Sale, Greater Manchester, with her partner Clare Curran, with whom she was planning a civil partnership, and Clare's daughter Jessie. She was said to be "so happy" in life, planning their wedding and on the day she died had spoken to Curran to discuss invites to send to guests.'
And the same Guardian article reveals another perp:
'Sergeant Stephen Miskell told the congregation that Bone was "a perfect police officer"'.
'He said: "Fiona was wonderful. She was wonderful at keeping colleagues' spirits high with her bubbly nature. She was wonderful about caring for others. Fiona represented the best that humanity has to offer the world but that makes her loss even greater."'
And more perps, from the Manchester Evening News:
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... fiona-bone
'Fiona's colleague in Tameside, Insp Jane Brown, delivered the first reading, Psalm 139, before the Rev Nevin read the poem She is Gone.'
'Pc Tracey Miskell delivered the second reading...'
__________
As an aside, I note that 'Fiona Bone' was not raised in the Manchester area. Her connections to Lancashire date back only to her late teens/early 20s. This from the same MEN article:
'Born in Norwich, Fiona was brought up in Scotland before she moved to live of the Isle of Man, where her family still live.'
'Sir Peter said Fiona, from Sale, was a keen climber, walker and fitness enthusiast who also worked with St John Ambulance and with a waterway restoration group.'
'After graduating from the University of Central Lancashire...'
And more information on the Vicsim's history here: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... z28LVZ5kP3
The family moved to the Isle of Man in July 1997 and Pc Bone completed her sixth form studies there before she went to the University of Central Lancashire to study film and media.
'Pc Bone will have a private burial in Scotland, attended only by close family and friends.'
Now, the University of Central Lancashire in Preston itself weighs in:
http://www.uclan.ac.uk/news/uclan_pays_ ... aduate.php
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Orgy of Paedo PSYOPs
Why the bilge of high-profile child sex offending PSYOPs of late?
"Megan Stammers", "April Jones" and now "Sir" Jimmy Savile, ad nauseum
And all in one week. Oh my! We are being targetted.
What's the groupthink objective to these pathetic PSYOPs?
EDIT:
There's something major that is missing in almost all our analyses of these PSYOPs - the harm they are causing to society.
On the one hand, it's obviously great news that two Great Manchester police officers did NOT get murdered. It was just an horrific hoax.
However, imagine being a police officer yourself, or the partner, child, parent or friend of an officer. Imagine watching this PSYOP on the TV news. It's obviously going to send you up the wall with worry.
How can that be acceptable? PSYOPs of this nature and with these objectives are no less than tyrannical. A government run using these methods isn't a government at all - it's a dictatorship. And we live in a parliamentary democracy, do we not?
"Megan Stammers", "April Jones" and now "Sir" Jimmy Savile, ad nauseum
And all in one week. Oh my! We are being targetted.
What's the groupthink objective to these pathetic PSYOPs?
EDIT:
There's something major that is missing in almost all our analyses of these PSYOPs - the harm they are causing to society.
On the one hand, it's obviously great news that two Great Manchester police officers did NOT get murdered. It was just an horrific hoax.
However, imagine being a police officer yourself, or the partner, child, parent or friend of an officer. Imagine watching this PSYOP on the TV news. It's obviously going to send you up the wall with worry.
How can that be acceptable? PSYOPs of this nature and with these objectives are no less than tyrannical. A government run using these methods isn't a government at all - it's a dictatorship. And we live in a parliamentary democracy, do we not?
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Artful Fools and the Sims in the Gunpowder Plot of 1605
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Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
Maybe just most of them?!brianv wrote:Never mind?Euphoria wrote:Never mindbrianv wrote:"Also I wonder why Brianv had a problem with the phone call? Does he think all Englishmen work for MI5? "
And where did Brianv say that?
Where did I say I thought all Englismen worked for MFI?
As for the English human garbage who push these evil lies, they see it as a badge of honour to do the dirty work of the Apparatus! Unspeakably Degenerate Souls.
Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
No we certainly do not - we live in country run by compromised, controlled puppets.reichstag fireman:
And we live in a parliamentary democracy, do we not?
Compromised being the operative word.
Google Frank Beck. And then look for who fitted him up. Disgusting man (and I have that on good authority) - here's a clue GJ - and check all the wonderful "educational" work he's involved with.
It's a rabbit hole that just keeps on giving.
Savile a psyop? Don't make me laugh! 29 BBC staff implicated! And the rest.
I totally agree Stammers and Jones are though. Purpose? Too soften us up for what was to happen next - the deluge!
Watch how they twist this to fuck with internet freedom - trial by twitter my arse - the press and the rest of the establishment can't have this cat out of the bag or it's all coming out. You can bet all the wrong people end up in prison or worse over this. Tear down the lodges and give them all a good dose sodium thiopental, not too much mind, we don't want them dead.
Damn right with this comment though:
Not sure it's just the English that push these evil lies. Just wondering are you English, Reichstag?As for the English(?) human garbage who push these evil lies, they see it as a badge of honour to do the dirty work of the Apparatus! Unspeakably Degenerate Souls.
My lovely, lovely friend Mark may not be right on all counts, he's quite new to all of this, but he's learning fast:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEVH0A-4T3A
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CB5YLAgm6Q
Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
Sorry Simon, I know I said I wouldn't bring this to the forum. But the way they started turning this into a question of internet freedom last night - twisting it all around and bringing that ghastly truth bashing bloke out - one who wrote the pathetic Vodou Histories book (deliberate misspell, we don't need him on our case!) - I just could keep a lid on it no longer.
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Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
Savile's funeral photos are obviously faked. And if he wasn't buried, did he even die when they said?
Since the days of the Bubonic Plague in the 1660s, the departed have been buried, by Legal Order of Hif Majefty at least six feet deep, although the Law far pre-dates then. (the Canon Law?)
Yet "photos" in Rothermere's Daily Twit (if real) supposedly show Jimmy Savile's coffin in an unfilled "grave" that is much shallower. The "grave" clearly fails the Six-Foot-Deep Test.
Sir Jimmy's body was allegedly buried at Woodlands Cemetery in Scarborough, Yorkshire, England.
But where was he really laid to rest, if anywhere? Someone should "geo-fizz" that alleged grave site.
This reminds of Ann Clwyd. See: here.
Fake "grave" of Sir Jimmy Savile
From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... angle.html
Look at that absurd "photo" of mourners pointing into Sir Jimmy's "grave". Has anyone EVER seen anything so disrespectful? Are those mourners supposed to be realistic? Look at the ridiculously flat female "mourner" on the far right of the picture. Frankly shameful photoshopping.
Since the days of the Bubonic Plague in the 1660s, the departed have been buried, by Legal Order of Hif Majefty at least six feet deep, although the Law far pre-dates then. (the Canon Law?)
Yet "photos" in Rothermere's Daily Twit (if real) supposedly show Jimmy Savile's coffin in an unfilled "grave" that is much shallower. The "grave" clearly fails the Six-Foot-Deep Test.
Sir Jimmy's body was allegedly buried at Woodlands Cemetery in Scarborough, Yorkshire, England.
But where was he really laid to rest, if anywhere? Someone should "geo-fizz" that alleged grave site.
This reminds of Ann Clwyd. See: here.
Fake "grave" of Sir Jimmy Savile
From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... angle.html
Look at that absurd "photo" of mourners pointing into Sir Jimmy's "grave". Has anyone EVER seen anything so disrespectful? Are those mourners supposed to be realistic? Look at the ridiculously flat female "mourner" on the far right of the picture. Frankly shameful photoshopping.
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Re: Dale Cregan 09/18/2011
Calling fake on everything just doesn't paint a very realistic picture of the world.
Why fake his death when it obvious the stories would come out once people thought he'd gone? Stories have circulated for years that have implicated him and all sorts of important people. Why expose the establishment to that kind of scrutiny? He was old - where would he have been whisked off to and why bother? Doesn't make sense.
That is a fucked up picture, I agree.
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... a7a.150740
The whole buried at 45º angle thing is weird - but the guy clearly was weird and why not carry on breaking the law even after death, his last twisted little laugh. I'm sure the authorities would have let him be buried however he wanted given his unfathomable status.
Why would the BBC be reporting all these failings on their part - doesn't seem very smart given they are already battling public opinion to keep their license fee.
By implication then are you saying that all the reported abuse in the various churches is also a psyop and that all my mates who told me they were fiddled with at public school are lying? Bollocks, it's rife. And he was among the worst of the lot.
You've been wrong talked arse on more than one occasion on this forum and quite frankly I take everything you say with a massive pinch of salt if not a healthy dose of suspicion!!
Why fake his death when it obvious the stories would come out once people thought he'd gone? Stories have circulated for years that have implicated him and all sorts of important people. Why expose the establishment to that kind of scrutiny? He was old - where would he have been whisked off to and why bother? Doesn't make sense.
That is a fucked up picture, I agree.
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... a7a.150740
The whole buried at 45º angle thing is weird - but the guy clearly was weird and why not carry on breaking the law even after death, his last twisted little laugh. I'm sure the authorities would have let him be buried however he wanted given his unfathomable status.
Why would the BBC be reporting all these failings on their part - doesn't seem very smart given they are already battling public opinion to keep their license fee.
By implication then are you saying that all the reported abuse in the various churches is also a psyop and that all my mates who told me they were fiddled with at public school are lying? Bollocks, it's rife. And he was among the worst of the lot.
You've been wrong talked arse on more than one occasion on this forum and quite frankly I take everything you say with a massive pinch of salt if not a healthy dose of suspicion!!