Boeing 777 crashed in San Francisco (?)

[I, Gestalta]

PsyOps---and the intents and objectives behind them---are always multifaceted. While it is typically a smart move to wait for the other shoe to drop before attempting to decisively connect any dots, I will offer my somewhat premature thoughts on the matter:

1.) Distraction. This would mean that it might be wise to begin looking at everything taking place in the world BUT this event: politics, legislation, war rumblings, etc.

2.) Experimentation:

a.) Psychological water-testing; i.e. probing the gullibility of the populace. In other words, some sort of litmus test. This could potentially account for the exceedingly blatant saturation of numerology and crappy imagery at the forefront.

b.) Testing an upgrade in technological and/or operational functionality.

3.) 9/11, 7/7 reminder.

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Whatever the case, I think we have too little information to be convinced to any degree of certainty as to what, in reality, took place there. What we do know is that the event has at least been sexed up with the usual telltale signs of fakery.

[sunshine05]

tp812 - Thanks for looking into this and for sharing the information with us. I would be interested in seeing the photos of the crash debris, just to see how it compares to media images.

My thoughts about "why" - It seems like there's been a lot of transportation catastrophes lately. Plane crashes - this one allegedly from an inexperienced pilot; another small plane crash in Alaska yesterday. I'll be anxious to hear what they say caused that one. In addition to this we've seen several train derailments, crashes and explosions lately. Maybe they want to globally regulate transportation - set new mandatory guidelines for the world. (just a thought)

[tp812]

I,Gestalta - good answers

sunshine05- no problem. sure I will share the videos I got. I'm not a video guy so I'm not sure how to get the quality better. I have an old Panasonic MiniDV 26x optical zoom a friend gave me and used Windows Media Maker to upload on youtube.

Here are three short vids:
http://youtu.be/1JL-4GE34PU
http://youtu.be/Cb5n1v-7uc0
http://youtu.be/I8SGxm7XdRE

Regards.

[pov603]

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[Lazlo]

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survivor of dunblane??????

Angie, the Web Mistress of the site linked below died an unfortunate death recently from an aortic aneurysm. Among other things, the site curates the research of Keith Hansen, alias Vyzygoth. On the top right of the page is a series entitled: Anatomy of Three Masacres: Columbine, Dunblane, Port Arthur. It is fascinating to hear these things talked about in the vernacular. Example: How do you know that Martin Bryant wasn't the killer? "Thats easy, 'cause he weren't there mate!"



http://www.thinkorbeeaten.com/

[tp812]

Here are some new HD videos:
http://youtu.be/WczPnDDipKw

http://youtu.be/DDR6DO3WnZ8

From this website:
http://www.jessetrent.com/

I'm not used to watching HD videos in this perspective, but at first glance it looks believable to me and the foul-language commentary seems authentic to me as just a couple of kids talking. The plane looks a little odd because I can't see windows, and the relative sizes of fire trucks and cars seem very odd, but again I'm not used to watching with this perspective. They seem to be taking the video from the hotel. Please let me know if you guys find oddities, because I'm not very good with video analysis.

The other idea I'll throw out is that could the media trying to mix in fakery with real events to try to confuse people and get people accustomed to fakery in preparation for a full-on psyops? They can always limit disclosure of real video footage and fabricate stories. Don't know. This whole thing is a bit confusing. A lot of stories just seem made up to me, but on the other hand there is 'wreckage' and videos like above. I'm going to reserve judgement on everything at this point.

[bostonterrierowner]

Here are some new HD videos:
http://youtu.be/WczPnDDipKw

http://youtu.be/DDR6DO3WnZ8

From this website:
http://www.jessetrent.com/

I'm not used to watching HD videos in this perspective, but at first glance it looks believable to me and the foul-language commentary seems authentic to me as just a couple of kids talking. The plane looks a little odd because I can't see windows, and the relative sizes of fire trucks and cars seem very odd, but again I'm not used to watching with this perspective. They seem to be taking the video from the hotel. Please let me know if you guys find oddities, because I'm not very good with video analysis.

The other idea I'll throw out is that could the media trying to mix in fakery with real events to try to confuse people and get people accustomed to fakery in preparation for a full-on psyops? They can always limit disclosure of real video footage and fabricate stories. Don't know. This whole thing is a bit confusing. A lot of stories just seem made up to me, but on the other hand there is 'wreckage' and videos like above. I'm going to reserve judgement on everything at this point.

You are right that smoke and the wreckage might be real and they were drilling on this airport but it doesn't really change anything . There were no crash , no victims , no real flight .

Just some piece of metal trash set on fire for the boys with toys to show how well prepared they are if something unexpected happens .

[hoi.polloi]

Please let me know if you guys find oddities, because I'm not very good with video analysis.

Aaaahhh, yes. The "I'm an idiot, show me what's wrong with this" card. Again. For the thousandth time.

Then the only difference between you and shills we've banned in the past for such moronic posts is you haven't said anything against the forum for calling you useless. Why are you here? The last thing we need is somebody turning our forum into a pasteboard for mainstream feeds.

We don't need confused oglers of the media. Stick to what you can understand.

[tp812]

Please let me know if you guys find oddities, because I'm not very good with video analysis.

Aaaahhh, yes. The "I'm an idiot, show me what's wrong with this" card. Again. For the thousandth time.

Then the only difference between you and shills we've banned in the past for such moronic posts is you haven't said anything against the forum for calling you useless. Why are you here? The last thing we need is somebody turning our forum into a pasteboard for mainstream feeds.

We don't need confused oglers of the media. Stick to what you can understand.

#1 You, Simon and the rest have done amazing work and are heroes in my mind

#2 I understand there are tons of shills and I'm skeptical about everybody too so no big deal about your questions. I was recently banned at the Dailypaul for questioning how many died on 9-11 and asking where the survivors were... I'm hoping to get reinstated there so I can keep spreading the word and exposing who I think are shills there myself. I'd rather post on other forums than Cluesforum because in other forums I wouldn't be preaching to the choir.

#3 I don't think I'm asking idiotic or moronic questions. I just said I'm not good with video analysis. You don't need to be a video expert to determine whether you believe one set of evidence/analysis vs another that others may present. Different people have different skills so it's good to encourage everybody. I think marketing and spreading media fakery ideas is very important so although the technical research may be the core aspect of this forum it's good to encourage other activities as well.

#4 In the grand scheme of things, I'm not sure this event is that important whether real or fake. The reason why I posted on this topic is because I'm local to the SF Bay area and hope I'm able to provide some on-the-ground insight with videos I take myself and interviews (if I'm able to get them) to complement any other analysis. I'm also trying to help aggregate relevant info & videos here so others don't have to. I'd hope people would appreciate the little amount of gopher work I do to help make things easier. I'm really just trying to find out for myself what happened and the contradictions bug me. In the end I can leave this topic alone and move on to more obvious psyops. Otherwise I don't plan to post much on other more technical research threads here. I'll be content just reading.

Regards.

[tp812]

Thanks for the video el buggo:
San Francisco Flight 214 Hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQj1rS5Zu08

This video makes some good points, although the commentator is a bit aggressive for my taste.

Here is the link from the above video:
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/hl7742

1) Last flight listed for HL7742 was July 4th from ICN (Seoul, Korea) to SFO (San Francisco).
Looking at the past flights, there is almost always a return flight back to ICN on the same day of the flight into SFO
(See the following days 6/14, 6/17, 6/20)
Did the flight never take off back to ICN in order to prep the plane for a post-wreck display?

2) It's pretty apparent that the tall grass on David Eun's pics is different from other videos and pics. I noted the difference in windows. It even seems like the plane is a different color and in the video they mention the yellow paint below the doors that is not in David Eun's photos. Are these pics taken from a previous drill?

3) Fred Hayes and Jennifer Solis videos faked? The two videos seem to coincide pretty well where Fred Hayes gets the beginning part of the crash landing and Solis gets from the crash on. Maybe it was harder to fake the actual crash landing so they created a blurry one for Hayes and let Solis create an HD version of an actual burning prop plane. All they would have to do is insert a CGI of the fake little people running out and all the other vehicles and burning plane could be real. (I noticed some of the people seem to be really fast...)

Anyways.. interesting stuff.

[tp812]

Actually they probably didn't need to create a CGI insertion of people escaping the plane if they had a bunch of actors escape from the prop plane ..either way..

[smarterthantheythink]

"The station, based in nearby Oakland, reported the names of four pilots aboard Asiana Airlines Flight 214 as Captain Sum Ting Wong (something wrong), Wi Tu Lo (we too low), Ho Lee Fuk (holy fuck, although this was mispronounced) and Bang Ding Ow (bang ding ow)."

From the article below.

http://thedesk.matthewkeys.net/2013/07/ ... 14-pilots/

Good laugh today!

[simonshack]

"The station, based in nearby Oakland, reported the names of four pilots aboard Asiana Airlines Flight 214 as Captain Sum Ting Wong (something wrong), Wi Tu Lo (we too low), Ho Lee Fuk (holy fuck, although this was mispronounced) and Bang Ding Ow (bang ding ow)."

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xocs-LHzoV0

[sunshine05]

The station is claiming they were somehow given bad information. So ridiculous that this would make it through. http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/epic-k ... -lo_b97368

[I, Gestalta]

I knew it wouldn't be long until it was blamed on the inevitable "intern". Even better, they get to use the word "racist".

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... 1421.story