9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby cprice81 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:28 pm

I didn't, but perhaps I should let them know. It's ridiculous, the man has been dead for 6 1/2 years!

What I'm really suggesting is that this makes me feel that this isn't a reliable website. Where else can we look?


brianv wrote:Did you contact them to inform them of their error --- and their crap database?

And besides that's hardly an issue here.

Did you find your grandfather's grave?

PS: You wouldn't be trying to suggest that this was a real flesh and blood living woman are you? :rolleyes:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby cprice81 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:29 pm

Oh and yes, his grave is listed on findagrave.com.

cprice81 wrote:I didn't, but perhaps I should let them know. It's ridiculous, the man has been dead for 6 1/2 years!

What I'm really suggesting is that this makes me feel that this isn't a reliable website. Where else can we look?


brianv wrote:Did you contact them to inform them of their error --- and their crap database?

And besides that's hardly an issue here.

Did you find your grandfather's grave?

PS: You wouldn't be trying to suggest that this was a real flesh and blood living woman are you? :rolleyes:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby simonshack on Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:09 am

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YEAH! Wow! DNA ! :rolleyes: :wacko: :puke:

At 3:55: "I think I found a couple of credit cards." :lol:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LpJ4_DQSLw
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby anonjedi2 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:38 pm

Meet Donald Lokuta.

http://www.donaldlokuta.com/

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Lokuta is a 'fine art' photographer responsible for several post-9/11 photographs. Perhaps he is an innocent photographer who was just trying to document the event. My focus isn't really on Lokuta however, but rather the individual in this particular photo:

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"Missing: Michael Elferis, 2001"

Michael Elferis is one of the alleged firefighters.

The Smithsonian Museum used this photo, so we know it's "official". The individual in the photo is unnamed.

Perhaps he is Elferis's uncle. Anyone want to give him a call? 917-449-5219
Elferis's mother can be reached at 718-888-3319

http://radaris.com/p/Ernest/Elferis/

Elferis Family Foundation
P.O Box 560426
College Point NY 11356-0426
Phone Numbers:
Tel: 718-359-9926
Fa: 212-333-8949
Email Address: brian@elferisfamilyfoundation.com

Organization Officers:
President: Robert Elferis
Vice President: Anthony Moreno
2nd Vice President: Rick King
Secretary: Elizabeth Wild
Treasurer: Brian McLoughltin
Sgt. of Arms: Joseph Elferis

More of Lokuta's photographs here: http://amhistory.si.edu/september11/col ... asp?ID=152
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby RogerSmith on Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:10 pm

In Houston, TX, there is a memorial for a supposed Flight 93 victim, Lauren Catuzzi Grandcolas.
http://h-town-visually.blogspot.com/201 ... orial.html

She's famous more than the rest for a phone call or something. The memorial was only recently built within the last 3-4 years after the park it's in, Market Square Park, was renovated. I was curious who funded this monument so I did some research and it turns out to have been backed by The Lauren Catuzzi Foundation.

http://www.lcgfoundation.org/

The foundation is accepting contributions through a physical address of a law firm. The board consists only of six members, only three of whom are actually, supposedly, in Houston:
http://www.lcgfoundation.org/board.htm

The first two are "her parents", the second seems to be a rich old lady who I'm guessing they just told a sob story and got to sponsor the whole thing, the third has no history and could be completely fictional, while the fourth and fifth are "her sisters".

Of those five, a whois shows the site belongs to Dara Near. Assuming this Lauren never existed, I would think Dara Near is the leading actor or operative behind the Catuzzi myth. The whois also happens to have what seems to be a legitimate email and physical address - Google Maps shows the address is of a rather upscale home in some fancy village. A nice home for a CIA actor?

This site: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/re ... d=20994045

Happens to also have the address of Lauren's "father", I checked that one on Google Maps and it shows a home with an American flag in the front, a nifty touch on part of the perps. These are her supposed parents:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... to-1240336

There isn't much information on these people, and unsurprisingly, the only few existing photographs of Lauren are sketchy. The victim (or vicsim), Lauren, supposedly graduated from The University of Texas at Austin. I'd like to assume that verifying if she's received a degree from that institution would verify if she ever really existed - though it's questionable whether they will provide that information, and it's also not far-fetched to imagine it could be fabricated.

Also courtesy of that site I linked earlier (investorshub.whatever):
"there is no record of
Lauren C Grandcolas in the Social Security Death
Index. There is a listing for her grandmother, Vivian
N Catuzzi, who died September 3, 2001. It is
interesting to note that there are three current and
active phone listings over 6 1/2 years later for
Lauren Grandcolas in the San Rafael phone directory.
Why would a deceased person have current and active
phone listings? "

Lauren managed to release a book after her death: http://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Do-It-Han ... 811846350/

A generic "you can do it!" get-motivated sort of book... Assuming she's fake, they're trying to propel the fictions legacy further.

I think there's still more to be explored with this specific Vicsim, which then in turn, might reveal more about Vicsims as a whole.

Her "husband" found a new "love of his life" and just completely forgot his supposed wife: http://www.marinij.com/ci_18838782

"Jack said that from now on he expects to become more private."

"Although marriage is not imminent — "we do not feel we need a piece of paper," says Hopkins, 45 — Grandcolas has given her a diamond ring to signify his commitment. The diamonds come from a ring that once belonged to Lauren."

Consider the possibility this new wife of his IS Lauren - she never died, she's a CIA actor given the role to play a hero upon a fictional airplane. 10 years later, they feel they played the gag well and can now continue living as they've successfully remade her identity. These are not uncommon things, getting a makeover is very easy.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby brianv on Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:45 pm

Sorry Roger, don't worry I'm not stalking you.

I just thought I'd mention that there is a Laurie Neira supposed Flight 11 victim. And if my jaded memory is correct there IS an entry in the SSDI, one of the handful of "victim" entries .

Dara Near
Laurie Neira
Lauren

Glad you brought it up! By the way, "Dara" means Second.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby RogerSmith on Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:54 pm

Just to clarify, are you suggesting that Dara Near herself may have been the basis for the vicsim of Lauren? Or perhaps, the other way around? Phony name for a phony person living like they were legitimate.

That sounds completely plausible either way. I wonder what algorithm they used to generate these names, it's clearly not a very good one.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby brianv on Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:31 pm

RogerSmith wrote:Just to clarify, are you suggesting that Dara Near herself may have been the basis for the vicsim of Lauren? Or perhaps, the other way around? Phony name for a phony person living like they were legitimate.

That sounds completely plausible either way. I wonder what algorithm they used to generate these names, it's clearly not a very good one.


I'm not entirely sure, but the name "Laurie Neira", is in the SSDI and died "9/11", and also in the Victims Compensation Fund as a recipient.

I wonder how much was doled out for "Victims" who weren't even entered in the Master Death Database, which would be near all of it!

Some clown sitting up late at night creating fantasy names. I suppose that constitutes an algorithm of sorts.

PS, It might be worth discovering whether "Dara Near" is the name of a living being or yet another fantasy, like all those we've already discovered.!
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:04 pm

RogerSmith wrote:Her "husband" found a new "love of his life" and just completely forgot his supposed wife: http://www.marinij.com/ci_18838782

"Jack said that from now on he expects to become more private."


Thanks for an interesting post, RogerSmith. It brings up old memories, notably the movie "LOVE HATE LOVE" - which you can read about here:

LOVE HATE LOVE! viewtopic.php?f=24&t=428&p=2361126#p2361126

See, ol' Jack Grandcolas hasn't been much private these years... He played himself in the movie "The Plane That Fought Back", one of the many 'heroic docudramas' about "FLIGHT 93". Jack's alleged pregnant wife Lauren Catuzzi Grandcolas, we are told, was seated right next to "Elizabeth Wainio" - perhaps the most (in)famous vicsim of 9/11 - on row 11 of the doomed flight...

Jack was there when the "LOVE HATE LOVE" propaganda-movie (by one Dana Nachman - and produced by Sean Penn) was launched :
Image < Jack Grandcolas (far right)
(Third from left: ESTHER HYMAN)

So what was "LOVE HATE LOVE" about, you may ask?

“Love Hate Love” is a feature-length film that explores the lives of three families affected by terrorism: a couple who lost a child on 9/11, a woman whose sister died in the London “7/7” transit bombings of 2005, and an Australian man who lost both legs in a 2002 car bombing in Bali. Each narrative honors the human ability to turn tragedy into a force for good. Sean Penn is executive producer. The film debuted in May at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York and will screen Thursday, Sept. 8 at the JCC of San Francisco. A discussion with Nachman, moderated by Abby Porth of the Jewish Community Relations Council, will follow.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/627 ... r-attacks/


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Here are the three "VICTIMS OF TERRORISM" featured in the movie:

"PETER C. ALDERMAN" ("9/11 victim")
Peter C Alderman foundation: http://www.petercaldermanfoundation.org/
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"BEN TULLIPAN" (the "Jeff Bauman" of the 2002 "Bali Bombings")
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"Tomorrow's golf day at The Glades at Mudgeeraba will raise funds and awareness for QAGA, of which Mr Tullipan is president."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/re ... isQkp.dpuf

"MIRIAM HYMAN" ("London 7/7 victim")
Image *7/7 'POSTER GIRL*
MIRIAM HYMAN MEMORIAL TRUST: http://www.miriam-hyman.com/


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Chubby ESTHER HYMAN - alleged sister of "Miriam Hyman" (the 'poster-girl 7/7 vicsim) was also there at the LOVE HATE LOVE movie launch. She's been relentlessly promoting the foundation in honor of her alleged dead sister - and has also been lamenting about people like us questioning it all. Now, it so happens that the alleged stepmother of the aforementioned Elizabeth Wainio (the 'poster-girl' 9/11 vicsim) is named - believe it or not - "ESTHER HEYMANN".

ESTHER HEYMANN - alleged stepmother of "Elizabeth Wainio":
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"ELIZABETH WAINIO": ("Flight 93 victim who was seated on row 11 next to Lauren Catuzzi Grandcolas")
Image *9/11 'POSTER GIRL*
Fundraiser for Honor Elizabeth Wainio : http://www.elizabethwainio.com/main/events.cfm


So yes, I would certainly agree with you that they're using a crappy name-generating algorithm - or at the very least, that they're employing some awfully unimaginative scriptwriters! :P

In any case, this Jack Grandcolas seems to be very much part of 'the Nutwork team'... what do you reckon? And what exactly brings together all of these clowns? Do they share anything in common?


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ps to brianv: Lol, "Laurie Neira" seems to be a sadly forgotten 'soul'... Not even a word about her, no biography / no nothing - let alone a guest book entry - on the official 9/11 Memorial website "Voices of September 11": http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... =170758500
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby RogerSmith on Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:00 am

Not sure if this has been addressed before, it's a pretty obvious fakery here, but in any case - I just visited the Fundraiser Elizabeth Wainio site that you linked, and what do you know:

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Two different photos, two obscure black backgrounds, two different outfits, two identical facial expressions and head angles. Comparing photo from the fundraiser site to the one you linked (which is available on the same site's homepage). If this isn't blatantly fraudulent, I don't know what is...
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby simonshack on Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:15 am

RogerSmith wrote:Not sure if this has been addressed before, it's a pretty obvious fakery here, but in any case - I just visited the Fundraiser Elizbeth Wainio site that you linked, and what do you know:


Some old classics for you, RogerSmith... and did you know that her full name was actually "Honor Elizabeth Wainio"?

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby simonshack on Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:24 am

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Youtube user Jesse Herbert has found what seems to be a pretty darn close match of a Virginia Tech vicsim
- "RACHAEL ELIZABETH HILL" - with infamous "Flight 93 victim" HONOR ELIZABETH WAINIO"...


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO1XyrovfXU

The sheer laziness of these psyoperatives never ceases to astound me. :rolleyes:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby brianv on Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:12 pm

Both had the same photo-slop treatment by the same perp it appears.

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http://www.acolumbinesite.com/vt/victim ... chael.html
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby Starbucked on Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:41 pm

Simon, here is the original video that the RACHAEL ELIZABETH HILL - HONOR ELIZABETH WAINIO video was cut from. It also draws a comparison to a theater producer named Jessica Rothschild.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HNVlfpqbLA
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Unread postby brianv on Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:54 pm

Starbucked wrote:Simon, here is the original video that the RACHAEL ELIZABETH HILL - HONOR ELIZABETH WAINIO video was cut from. It also draws a comparison to a theater producer named Jessica Rothschild.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HNVlfpqbLA


Now that is far fetched. Probably the intent of the original video maker - to make the first two less believable.
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