THE "CHATBOX"

[Rudy Algera]

Filthy business, blackmail!

https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/dutroux/Bel ... affair.htm

How much of this business goes on also in the Mediafakery-world, I wonder?

Re: THE "CHATBOX"
Postby Rudy Algera on August 4th, 2013, 1:40 pm
Rudy Algera wrote:
To what extent might blackmail be used to get many people in power to co-operate in all sorts of hoaxes, official lies and acts of evil, I wonder.
For instance, here in The Netherlands we have the case of a top public servant, Mr. Joris Demmink, who is believed to be someone in a position to blackmail other top officials into protecting him from prosecution for paedophilia.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/5000

Is peadophilia plus blackmail THE WAY to keep people with top jobs under control, is that the method used by The Powers That Be, I wonder? What are we to think of this?
http://www.h24info.ma/maroc/societe/ped ... e-lespagne

[brianv]

This is pretty funny:

Revealed: the day Guardian destroyed Snowden hard drives under watchful eye of GCHQ – video

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/ ... ment-video

I used to work as a computer technician and it makes me laugh to see the destruction of components that don't even store data.

Even when they are going at the hard drives themselves, they are not even dismantling the drives to get at the actual parts that memory is written on, just scratching the metal casing a bit.

Just like Max Headroom in fact!

[dblitz]

I remember an old Asimov robot story that described the need for domestic servant robots to have voices that were devoid of accent or character, so as not to bring out the prejudice or bias of the people around it, nor to compete too much with their personalities. This is how Snowden comes across to me - his face, mannerisms, voice and even hair style and dress - everything is perfectly average and clean cut. Someone to project whatever we want onto. I'm having difficulty getting even my friends who are normally skeptical to distrust him.

In a way I think the conspiracy scene is used to create a sub-culture around the normal t.v. people so that they are primed for revelations and exposures, but not able to accept them until they are presented by authorities. It also makes the really serious conclusions, such as September Clues look outreageous in comparison with the t.v's more moderate 'big brother' spy drama.

Realising that there is no separation between spies and media or government and corporations is a major hurdle that's too much for most, so stories like this actually increase peoples trust in the nutwork.

[dblitz]

Just like Max Headroom in fact!

Haha, I used to love that show! Seemed so futuristic and techno in the late 80's. I still remember realising one night that The X-files was a form of dis-information, before I had ever heard the word. Not long after that I got my first exposure to alternative news in the form of a stack of Nexus magazine back issues and I never trusted television again. Now I go to Youtube and it recommends all these 'reptilian shapeshifter,' 'federal reserve conspiracy,' 'Fema camp' and other such videos, and 'conspiracy theory' has become just another meme.

I'm starting to see 9/11 as a pre-emptive strike on the internet itself. A way of creating a defining moment that would steer and contain dissent throughout the free press and establish an emotional/psychological attitude towards it that still has huge momentum over a decade later. Another thing I've noticed is the way social media is used to prepare 'normal' people to dismiss the truth by spreading misleading and ridiculous 'conspiracy videos' through facebook and other sites. I've had this with Sandy Hook and Boston and, of course, 9/11. I'll prepare a few images or explanations and try to interest friends or family in my analysis of a story but 'they already saw a video on facebook about that.' It becomes just another point of view that they are already tired of hearing about.

[Rudy Algera]

More paedophilia and other filth:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/02 ... mail-ring/

Still more about paedophiles among the rich and famous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHKwzpwK8Ss

[Libero]

"The Return of the Pallbearers" -- (well, most at least)

Steven Ercolino’s funeral at Our Lady of Sorrows Church in White Plains

Empire State Building Shooting : http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1398



http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/fam ... -1.1147193



Funeral of actor Philip Seymour Hoffman at St. Ignatius Loyola Church on Park Avenue on the city's Upper East Side



http://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/cel ... 16191.html

[fbenario]

This image may be the most artificial of any we've yet seen.



http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 1c06.71884

[fbenario]

About six hours ago the forum went past 8 million page visits.

Not bad for a site holding such 'unpopular' views - so to speak.

[anonjedi2]

Pencil drawings of mushroom clouds.





More interesting implications of imagery here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu/works-o ... hotographs

[icarusinbound]

More interesting implications of imagery here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu/works-o ... hotographs

Thanks for posting the link, these photo-surrealistic pictures are amazing. A cynical observer of imagery manipulation might almost be tempted to think that they're perhaps a bit too good (or maybe I need to become more trusting by default) .

There looks to have been an increased presence of artwork like this on the net over the last year or so. This may of course be a legitimate effect, emerging from an expanding pool of expertise, and enabled by improved digital transfer systems (I mean both for scan capture from the purported original art medium and 'sale' of the image to viewers).

But it does serve an additional useful utiity: remember that fractured 20th century aphorism "the camera never lies"? With pens and brushes as good as this, the camera doesn't even need to come out of it's carry-case. Or the paparazzo from his bed...

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/40-mind-bl ... paintings/
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/3 ... c-drawings

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57TsezhYI8

[guivre]

There are much better hyper realist artists out there. But yes, the average person thinks that someone who can paint or draw like that is famous or making a million bucks. There would have been plenty out there with a classical education in need of money.

These days, in the U.S., it's harder to find and would seem even more out of reach. Due to changes in the art curriculum in public schools (don't get me started) high school students are starting out in college with childlike portfolios. College curriculum is generally as it should be, but the students should have been getting much better training from junior high/middle school onward. Europe and Asia does not have this curriculum issue and their classical artists are far ahead of what the U. S. is doing.

There are always exceptions, and parents who realize what's being taught is garbage, but I could go on for pages about this issue. In the old days of the internet, when everyone had a web page instead of a corner on facebook, I used to put out articles, tutorials, etc. on techniques, art history, etc for kids about junior high school age just because there is this huge gap in the U.S.

Excuse the rant, but it is somewhat relevant for perceptions of what is possible versus what is actually possible.

[dblitz]

Is that site still up? I'd like to take a look.

[OpticalIllusion]

I was pondering the other day as to why there so many psyops both small and large for all kinds of scenarios we see unfolding. When you interact with people here in the U.S., both online and real life, it is vary obvious most people are fighting about race, gun rights, religion, civil rights, etc. They fight hard and argue all day long and they don't realize take overs do not happen over night and that they take generations to fully implement all of their goals.

Some of these psyops create soft and subtle memories in humans from a young age into their late teens. As time goes on and they age what seems unacceptable for our generation and older generations in regards to the debate on guns, gays, rights, and so on will seem normal and acceptable to them. They will think back on all those fake school shootings, rampages, and terrorist attacks in their childhood memories and not think anything of it being a brainwashing tool, and wont fight to keep any of todays rights as society and the media through psyops have shaped their minds to meet their goals.

The same goes for my generation compared to my grandparents. When I read random comments (some from humans, some shills, or bots) on forums and articles, both nationally and locally, all I really see are people engaged in racism, wealth disparity, gun rights, and politics throughout the internet. I feel this division along with the MSM and diverted alt media keep people from realizing what is really going on, and no matter how hard they fight and prepare most children will be lost.

[guivre]

Is that site still up? I'd like to take a look.

No, it disappeared under some restructuring or another. That's really what I should be doing online, it's the one thing I'm actually qualified to discuss.

Because it's not a universal issue, as in only the US seems to have this problem, I just didn't feel the drive to keep it up. Web-space is expensive, etc. etc. I'll have to re-examine it and decide what would be worth putting out there. I actually see a U.S. Army connection to the curriculum issue, which is interesting. Because the shift in the curriculum happened in the late 1970's, I was under the impression that it had a different origin.

[guivre]

I was pondering the other day as to why there so many psyops both small and large for all kinds of scenarios we see unfolding. When you interact with people here in the U.S., both online and real life, it is vary obvious most people are fighting about race, gun rights, religion, civil rights, etc. They fight hard and argue all day long and they don't realize take overs do not happen over night and that they take generations to fully implement all of their goals.

Actually, they kind of do. In the US we have been insulated from this -- we have not had a real government fall, and that's why Americans freak out over every single bump in the government. (Think the government shutdown last October. My friends and family in Bulgaria just rolled their eyes at the news coming out of the US on that.) In many places in Europe, governments come and go and people realize that there is life after a fall. In the US the idea of it sparks a whole preppers movement. (There's nothing wrong with stocking up on canned goods, but to put your head in a constant apocalyptic-type scenario is a bit stressful and detrimental to a productive, thoughtful life.)