dblitz wrote:This theory has been discussed on clues forum before. Well, it's not going to change any Christian's mind as it is so feeble and full of holes, and there is no point attempting to debunk it because anyone who does the due diligence to check this theory against the earliest original sources, writings and documents of the Church will see it's flaws and contradictions and move on.
Believers have generally studied the history and early writings of the Church as part of their intellectual/spiritual journey are not going to melt down in cognitive dissonance and despairing disillusionment after being confronted with an idea so thin. It's just silly.
Why would the architects and schemers behind the creation of the worlds grandest psy-op renounce all their possessions, never make a single cent in their lives and live in tiny cells and caves in extreme asceticism until death, if they were only inventing a manipulating cult in pursuit of power and material gain?
Read the life of Saint John Chrysostom (an honest enquirer into the origins of Christianity would have done so already) and tell me why this man was persecuted and exiled by the Empress more than once for his denunciation of her corruption. The people rioted until she allowed him back. The sermons of Saint John were the clues forum of the day, who else would have the courage to denounce the Empress and challenge authority? Oh no, those evil Church writers were developing modern miiiiind control. Please.
Again and again we see this clever (or is it genuine ignorence?) distortion of the facts: Saying the Catholic Papacy was created by Constantine as a psy-op when there was no Papacy or Roman Catholic church in existence until 1000 years later. Amazing how so many writers and researchers have swallowed this historical re-write and regurgitate it for their readers without even asking what the differences are between the Church as it was founded and the Ceasero-papist tyranny the western kings and bishops turned it into. And sadly, they are promoting the very historical distortion created by the Papist system to obscure the history of the Eastern Empire and create the actual psy-op the western elites rely on to keep a lid on what happened to Russia and why.
Do you realize these saints and fathers, who lived in poverty and celibacy, also created the first free health care? I don't get how 'debunkers' of the Church are not embarrassed by the idea that it was all sinister plot to manipulate and steal. Are you aware that the city environment was alive with the finest architecture, gold and silver work, mosaics and icons, statues - they didn't have to buy there culture in a shop, Constantinople was like a habitable artwork, their mentality was on of abundance and opulence, beauty, refinement and invention. Does that sound like the blueprint or seed for the modern consumer culture? I could go on but I don't think there are many people here interested in researching Christianity or I would have sparked an actual discussion when I put forward similar objections last time the idea came up but the thread died.
It is encouraging to see that another truth seeker has read Fomenko and taken him seriously. While I do not necessarily agree with Fomenko's reconstruction as I understand it (sadly I only was able to read the volumes that made it into English translation) it is pretty clear that there is indeed a massive psyop that is being actively curated and maintained to this day both by what the Soviets would have called "useful idiots" as well as people who are clued into the nature of the hoax.
The 9/11 hoaxers have nothing on Scaliger, that's for sure.
Perhaps it's time for a Fomenko thread here.