OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Discussing the most relevant "sequels" or "reminders" of 9/11. The so-called "War On Terror" is a global scam finalized to manipulate this world's population with crass fear-mongering tactics designed to scare you shitless.

Re: More photos of "victims"

Unread postby fbenario on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:48 am

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What's up with the apparent hole in the center of his forehead seen below (in the shape of a scuba-diving facemask), or the green-pixels square on his groin?

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http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=4237b5120f33094a10902fd91c31efb116399365.87336
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Sat May 25, 2013 11:05 pm

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THE NORWEGIAN VG TROLLS

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I owe to all readers and contributors to this massive Cluesforum thread (which is slowly reaching 500.000 / half-a-million views) a little insight as to why we were bombarded by a seemingly endless flow of Norwegian trolls as the Breivik affair unfolded. I trust everyone will remember that unprecedented invasion of outraged, rabid naysayers who - basically - accused all Cluesforum members of being completely nuts.

As it is, my early suspicions as to the origin of this steady flow of trolls have now been confirmed. As you may know, I'm half Norwegian (and half Swedish) and, as such, am fairly familiar with the Norwegian press, having spent most summer vacations of my life in Norway. So today I spent some time browsing the comment section of Norway's tabloid "VG" ("Verden's Gang"). Well, you first need to know what sort of newspaper VG is - pretty much the Norwegian equivalent of "the SUN"- or sadder still - considering that Norway is viewed by most people as a particularly advanced / intelligent nation.

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The online VG is perhaps even tackier - and (if possible) more atrociously designed: http://www.vg.no/

Another thing you need to know is that VG had offices in the very government building complex which was supposedly blown up by Breivik's fertilizer bomb and therefore, naturally, claim to have been the first news organization on the scene. But let me now show you what I found when browsing VG's online 'debate section' whose search function, amazingly, brings up 128 pages mentioning Cluesforum. I have chosen this one page to illustrate what has been going on over there, in my beautiful homeland...(*sigh*):

http://vgd.no/samfunn/aktuelt/tema/1664 ... st35423674

VG username "SirKillalot" writes, referring to Clueforum (back in April 2012):
Det må da være mulig å spamme ned dette idiotiske forumet her:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1022&start=2715

"Surely it must be possible to spam down this idiotic forum here: [link to Cluesforum]"

"Spam down" meaning: bury/ overwhelm with spam, or in other words, a 'call to arms' to all VG readers to register at Cluesforum and 'spam it down' with, I suppose, ramblings supportive of the official version of the Breivik affair (which is exactly what happened, as our veteran members will remember). Another VG username, "abelao", writes:

Den tullingen Simon Hytten eller hva han nå heter, har til og med klart å publisere et bilde av sin egen familie. Mon tro hva de synes om det, om de i det hele tatt eksisterer? Men det er er et fascinerende freakshow å følge. Cluesforum, altså.

"That fool Simon Hytten or whatever his name is, has even managed to publish a picture of his own family. Go figure what they'll think of that, if they actually exist? But it's a fascinating freak show to follow, Cluesforum, that is."

Anyways folks, I won't bore you with the many other VG posts mentioning CF, practically all of which carry this meme:

"Those people at Cluesforum are completely crazy and live in a fantasy world".

Poor, poor Norway - my formerly beloved fatherland... :mellow:
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby brianv on Sat May 25, 2013 11:43 pm

"That fool Simon Hytten or whatever his name is, has even managed to publish a picture of his own family. Go figure what they'll think of that, if they actually exist? But it's a fascinating freak show to follow, Cluesforum, that is."


Yes, you must only be a victim with a fuckface.com account to post photographs of your family!

We'd better hurry before they retire the Breivik sim.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby beyondafringe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:57 pm

So, are you being accused, Simon, of doing what you/CF membership/I - accuse the fake victims of doing? (posting fake family photo's)

But the making of said accusations, while identifying you/CF/me as being 'crazy', is not the case in reverse?

I am not sure I elucidate coherently, even after several re-writes, so I non-rhetorically ask - do you understand what I'm trying to say?

The only rebuttal to the 'crazy' accusations of family and friend fakery, is a counter-accusation of family-fakery? F-d up.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Sun May 26, 2013 12:53 am

beyondafringe wrote:So, are you being accused, Simon, of doing what you/CF membership/I - accuse the fake victims of doing? (posting fake family photo's)

But the making of said accusations, while identifying you/CF/me as being 'crazy', is not the case in reverse?

I am not sure I elucidate coherently, even after several re-writes, so I non-rhetorically ask - do you understand what I'm trying to say?

The only rebuttal to the 'crazy' accusations of family and friend fakery, is a counter-accusation of family-fakery? F-d up.


Yes! Isn't it marvellously ironic?

I say: the families of those media-spun "terror attacks" (9/11, Breivik, Tucson, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Boston, etc) are fake.

My opponents say: "What if Simon and his family are fake?"

In other words, these opponents (of our efforts on this forum) could truly be labelled as "wacky conspiracy theorists"! They actually question my very existence - while attempting to ridicule our research on the basis of the very same paradigm! :lol:
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Sun May 26, 2013 3:18 am

Tabloids have always been a spooky enterprise in the United States, too. They'll basically take any sort of investigation into real news behind the propaganda, exaggerate it and run it with phony pictures, next to articles about the Bat Boy.

It is the ultimate 'destroy by association' tactic. All proper questions one has about the media are smuggled away, tarred and feathered, then trumpeted the loudest by these little tabloids — or as you rightfully call them "troll" papers — and used as addendum to crackpot fantasy.

So if you say something like, "perhaps [celebrity] faked their death" you are instantly met with looks of revulsion and/or mockery.

Inoculating and curing people of critical thinking since 1801.
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby Maat on Sun May 26, 2013 4:13 am

simonshack wrote:
In other words, these opponents (of our efforts on this forum) could truly be labelled as "wacky conspiracy theorists"! They actually question my very existence - while attempting to ridicule our research on the basis of the very same paradigm! :lol:

Marvelously ironic, it is! :D

I just think of it this way:

Listen to the fool's reproach! it is a kingly title!
— William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell (1790-93). Proverbs of Hell

hoi.polloi wrote:Tabloids... Inoculating and curing people of critical thinking since 1801.

Yeah, they are trying (very); but thank heavens some can still resist it ^_^
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:17 pm

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A LITTLE STOLTENBERG BACKGROUND

So who is this Jens Stoltenberg? Who is this man who, whether an obedient puppet or not, clearly has either co-planned the silly Breivik psyop or, at the very least, allowed it to be staged with his full consent - reaping both political and financial* benefit from it all? (*the convenient renovation of his government's headquarters - paid for by the Norwegian taxpayers)

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As you may remember, the very first 'popular' con-spiracy theories circulating on the internet immediately after the Breivik event was that "Mossad was behind the (real) shootings" - a meme reminiscent of the early "dancing Israelis" rumors of 9/11. But let's leave that at that - and take a more historical outlook at Stoltenberg's background. Before we do so, it may be worth mentioning that Jens is a frequent guest at Bilderberg meetings - that his father Thorvald is a member of the Trilateral Commission - and was a longtime Bilderberg member and that Jens' sister Camilla, is the director of the Rockefeller-funded People's Health Institute involved with controversial vaccination programs. Sounds like a conspiracy-theorist's wet dream, doesn't it? In any case, these are all - as far as I can gather - undisputed and plain, verifiable facts.

THORVALD STOLTENBERG_____________CAMILLA STOLTENBERG
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Now, here is where it gets more interesting. It turns out that father Thorvald's 'mentor', so to speak, was none other than Jens Christian Hauge. Well, you may never have heard of this prominent figure of Norwegian post-war history, so let me propose a condensed overview of this man, ripping a few lines from his Wikipedia page - and a few Norwegian mainstream media sources:

JENS CHR. HAUGE (1915/2006)
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"Due to his position during and after the War, Hauge was one of Norway's
most powerful individuals for more than 4 decades."


Jens Christian Hauge was a key member of the Bilderberg Group. Frequent correspondence between Hauge and the group's founder, released after Hauge's death, showed that Hauge was a central figure on the board of the group.

Jens Christian Hauge was the leader of the secret MILitary ORGanization MILORG* during World War II. After the war, he became an important political figure within the ruling Norwegian Labour Party.

In the last months of the war, Hauge had secret talks with Wehrmacht officers that gave information about the German plans for Norway. [wot? Secret talks with the enemy / invader?] He became Norway's youngest Defence Minister in 1945, only 30 years old. He was a controversial man, and was criticised for not giving more information regarding central parts of the Milorg activities, such as assassinations of Norwegian collaborators.

Hauge was instrumental in having Norway leaving its position as neutral and join the NATO alliance in 1949. After leaving government he was still central within Norwegian society and had a number of important positions. Hauge was involved in the establishment of the Norwegian state oil company Statoil, in the startup of the airline Scandinavian Airlines System and was also instrumental in arranging the foundation Fritt Ord, which works to maintain freedom of expression in Norway.

On 18 August 2008 (almost 2 years after his death) the two major Norwegian national newspapers Dagbladet and Aftenposten reported that Jens Christian Hauge was on the OSS (today CIA) employee list.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Christian_Hauge )

Wow. So this highly prominent Norwegian WW2 personnage and post-war politician was actually CIA??? The man who made Norway join NATO was CIA? Good Heavens. I wonder how many of my fellow Norwegians are aware of this ! And what does this tell us about Norway's role in WW2 ? But it gets 'better' :

In October 2008, a TV2 article 'revealed' that Hauge had lied (back in 1960) concerning Norway's sale of 'heavy water' to Israel's nuclear programme - telling the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs that the Israelis would not use the heavy water for military purposes. More interestingly (as far as Cluesforum and our ongoing Nuke Hoax study is concerned) Hauge also lied/recanted having actually visited Israel's nuclear plant:

"I en dagbok skriver Hauge detaljert om atombyen, «et imponerende anlegg» som han godt vet formålet til. Men i en rapport til Utenriksdepartementet i 1961 skriver han om et uskyldig anlegg som han ikke besøkte: «Jeg besøkte ikke anlegget» skriver han."
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/hau ... 96628.html

"In a diary, Hauge wrote in detail about the atomtown, «an impressive plant» which he well knew the purpose of. But in a report to the Foreign Office Dept in 1961 he wrote about an innocent plant which he did not visit: «I never visited the plant» he wrote."


So there we are: this is the background - not to call it the 'bloodline' - of the current Norwegian prime minister. Now just how close, you may ask, was Thorvald Stoltenberg with Jens Hauge? Well, as some Norwegian bloggers have it, he named his son after his old CIA 'mentor'...


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Relevant links for Norwegian readers:
http://www.riksavisen.no/?p=2237
http://www.riksavisen.no/?p=1745




* : Imagine my 'surprise' when I learned that the horrid VG tabloid was originally a MILORG publication... :rolleyes:
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby Rudy Algera on Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:52 am

Interesting! A fictitious person wishes to study at the university of Oslo.
https://www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=16be15b0abe8203d&q=breivik+university+oslo
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:19 am

Rudy Algera wrote:Interesting! A fictitious person wishes to study at the university of Oslo.
https://www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=16be15b0abe8203d&q=breivik+university+oslo


Gosh...
I'd almost forgotten that he it supposedly zapped "77" people. And most still buy that silly 2011 saga ...

Poor, poor Norway... :(


Now, I have to wonder how the Oslo University will go about brainwashing this new student... :P

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:22 am

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"BREIVIK/ UTOYA GALLERY"

I put together this post to summarize this enormous Breivik/ UTOYA thread - for those who have little time going through it all. Please peruse the links posted below to get an overview of the absurdity of this psyop inflicted on the Norwegian people.

PICK YOUR FAVORITE BREIVIK:

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"The wounded": viewtopic.php?p=2368258#p2368258

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Links to SELECTED POSTS in this thread:

Link1
"18 UTOYA VICTIMS COUNTED TWICE" (death toll reduced from 86 to 68 - July 26th)

Link2
MY MAIL TO UNNI GRØNDAL - the Oslo police press chief (WHY "92 DEAD"?)

Link3
THE "SECOND SHOOTER" RUMOR

Link4
BREIVIK'S "VEGETATIVE STATE"

Link5
"IT'S AS IF MY SON DIED TWICE"

Link6
JUSTICE MINISTER STORBERGET resigns on 11/11/11

Link7
MONEY FOR NOTHING - BRICKS FOR FREE": Taxpayers will foot the bill for Norway's new government buildings

Link8
WILLY USTAD - and his Cluesforum "hit-piece"

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Additional links of interest:

"THE SWAT TEAM FIASCO": viewtopic.php?p=2367579#p2367579

A FEW SHOPPED GIRLS: viewtopic.php?p=2363993#p2363993

MAGIC BREIVIK NUMBERS: viewtopic.php?p=2366264#p2366264

"NICE TO MEET YOU": viewtopic.php?p=2368622#p2368622

BREIVIK IN COURTROOM > STILL vs VIDEO: viewtopic.php?p=2365047#p2365047

FUN / ODD TIDBITS from the breivik trial: viewtopic.php?p=2369003#p2369003
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:14 pm

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"92 LIVES WERE LOST - MORE STILL MISSING"
Jens Stoltenberg's speech after the 'Breivik tragedy'


Stoltenberg is actually on record - almost two full days later - stating that the death-toll was "92 +" !

How that figure was then 'downgraded' to "77" - is anyone's guess. In fact (at 0:51 into below video), Stoltenberg says that "92 lives were lost - and that more are still missing". Well, can anyone please explain to me how the heck this "clerical error" (92 versus 77) could possibly have occurred. As you may know, I actually wrote a mail to the Oslo Police - which was quickly replied to, telling me to contact their Press officer, Unni Gròndal. So I wrote to Unni, once, twice and perhaps four times in all - but she simply never responded to my mails.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oPbd9UvZuY

At 4:24 into the video, Stoltenberg says:

"Our response is more democracy, more openness, and more humanity. But never naivety."

Yes. Naivety. :mellow:
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby Seneca on Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:15 pm

I listened to the interview on fakeologist radio with Simon Shack and Jan Erik while I was driving my car yesterday.
http://fakeologist.com/2014/06/26/ep114 ... orwegians/
It was a great interview, too bad it lasted only 3,5 hours.
In the end one of the conclusions was that the hoax resulted in a physical separation between the government and the people, for security reasons. I wondered if this has got anything to do with what happened on one of Norways' former "colonies", Iceland.

Whether what we know about the Iceland revolution is true or faked, they possibly feared it could inspire the good people of Norway. So maybe the hoaxers helped to prevent this.

Or was it a warning to Iceland's people about their future? "Utoya" means "outermost" island in Norwegian according to wikipedia. :o I know, this sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.

By the way, has anybody on this forum researched what is happening in Iceland? I hope the good news is real. :)
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby Makkonen on Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:47 pm

Thanks for the great summary of the thread, Simon.

It seems like this "event" will be milked for all eternity by the associates. Here is a new, shameless article: http://www.psykologtidsskriftet.no/inde ... 425120&a=3
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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Unread postby simonshack on Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:26 pm

Makkonen wrote:Thanks for the great summary of the thread, Simon.

It seems like this "event" will be milked for all eternity by the associates. Here is a new, shameless article: http://www.psykologtidsskriftet.no/inde ... 425120&a=3


You're welcome Makko - and thanks for pointing to that shameless article...

Speaking of shameless things, here's something pretty hard to beat : <_<


"NATO Officially Appoints Norway's Jens Stoltenberg to be Next Secretary General"

"This afternoon, the North Atlantic Council decided to appoint Mr. Jens Stoltenberg as Secretary General of NATO and Chairman of the North Atlantic Council, in succession to Anders Fogh Rasmussen. Mr. Stoltenberg will assume his functions as Secretary General as from 1 October 2014."
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So here's the clown who has been entrusted to lead "the world's most powerful alliance" (as NATO calls itself).
(You probably don't need to speak Norwegian to get a sense of this man's level of intoxication) :


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmvOccjod6U

Fantastic, isn't it? Billions are spent to 'combat terrorism' every year - yet we now have this utter clown (who allows himself to hold public speeches while pissed out of his wits) for General Secretary of NATO. Feeling safe and comfy, folks?
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