The Rise & fall of ISIS

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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby simonshack on February 16th, 2015, 11:57 pm

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IS ISIS ABOUT TO STRIKE ITALY - OR VICE VERSA? :o :rolleyes:
Or how the "ISIS threat" reaches new levels of pathetic silliness - while no one seems to care

Here in Italy where I live, the frontpage news today are all about the "terrifying ISIS threat" - and how they may soon invade Italy - from their alleged strongholds / hideouts in Libya. No, I am not kidding you, dear readers. In fact, the top Italian political debate is, at this very moment: "shall Italy - or shall Italy not wage all-out war against ISIS?" For now, the Italian puppet president, Renzi, says that "it is premature".

All of these new, seemingly 'dramatic developments' revolve around the recent, alleged beachside-beheadings of 21 coptic Egyptians by the fearsome "ISIS terror group". We are told that Egyptian jet fighters are already bombing ISIS bases in Libya - in retaliation for this 'barbaric act'. Here's the sort of imagery the Western media proposes in guise of 'visual / documented proof' of this purported mass beachside execution :

Vamos a la playa - with "mirage effect" ... :P
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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVTKl_FzY9k

As you can see, whoever makes these images doesn't even bother (or spend much effort) anymore to hide the fact that they are nothing but digital creations entirely fabricated with the aid of modern computer graphics / imagery software programs.

Nonetheless, here's how the Western media (CBS, in this case) reports on these 'new, dramatic developments' :


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuUDQYaDf8g

You better believe it, folks ! If you can, of course, only if you can... :rolleyes:
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby fbenario on February 17th, 2015, 1:59 am

simonshack wrote:how they may soon invade Italy - from their alleged strongholds / hideouts in Libya.

Hilarious. I'm surprised Italians aren't already being told ISIS has occupied Pantelleria, Lipari, and Stromboli.

Oh no, what if they occupy Capri and Ischia? Maybe they're already on Tiber Island, 800 meters from the Victor Emmanuel Monument.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby simonshack on February 18th, 2015, 7:12 pm

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Hey, I TOLD YOU I wasn't kidding ! Help! Help ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

"ISIS Plans to 'Invade' Italy With Small Boats, Says Watchdog"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191517

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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Maat on February 18th, 2015, 9:38 pm

Oh bloody ‘ell! Image :lol: As we so often ask rhetorically, “Who writes this shit!”— it’s just getting stoopider! The “essay” & its “analysis” read like bad satire: http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/wp/wp ... the-is.pdf

...In January, a prominent supporter of IS who claims to be in Libya uploaded a short essay, “Libya: The Strategic Gateway for the Islamic State”1 ...

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1To avoid giving the author undue notoriety, he will remain unnamed.

By “Researcher/Programs Officer” (perp Sim) “Charlie Winter” for http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/about/staff/ (with a 404 Page Not Found bio) :rolleyes:

Quilliam Foundation-Charlie-Winter.jpg
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 12:01 am

Good catch Maat.

As you mentioned, http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/about/staff/ shows that "Charlie Winter" character as being among the staff, but clicking "Charlie Winter"'s photo to read the character's biography (http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/about ... ie-winter/) strangely leads to that "404 page-not-found" message.

So, I thought I would throw that http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/about ... ie-winter/ into The Archive* to see if "Charlie Winter"'s currently-deleted bio had been archived...

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ww ... ie-winter/

Which results in this message:
"Wayback Machine (The Internet Archive) doesn't have that page archived. Want to search for all archived pages under http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/about/staff/ ?"

So I thought, yeah, sure, let's see what that produces, so I clicked that link (https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ww ... ut/staff/*) and was then presented with 49 URLs, so then of course I hit Ctrl+F to search within those results for the word "Charlie", and lo and behold "Charlie" is the third link down

https://web.archive.org/web/20140723203 ... ie-cooper/

So that's why "Charlie Winter"'s biography doesn't currently show up, this group was originally presenting this character as being "Charlie Cooper"! :-)

(* The Internet Archive is a mixed blessing site, because although it can be useful sometimes, the founder and owner of the Archive WAS caught deleting embarrassing 9-11 info, and then further caught in a lie attempting to cover that fact, and then Jimbo at Wikipedia caught approving the deletion of this properly sourced fact [even though the founder of the Archive publicly wrote about it] so yeah, the owners of The Archive and Wikipedia are not to be trusted.)

Anyway, there you go Maat, if you wanna know about this "Charlie Winter" character, I guess you should also search for his original "Charlie Cooper" alias. But just to be clear, I agree that no matter what name they slap on the image representing him, this appears to be just another simulated character, so it is a mistake for us to even use the terms he or him. :-)
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 12:15 am

OK, using Google Image search to do a search based not on words but rather based on the image itself (I remember when Tin-Eye originally released this image-based-search technology), I found a color version of that black-and-white "Charlie Cooper / Charlie Winter", and then throwing that color version into Google Image search again, I found this "biography" of the simulated one-photo-only character:

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/charlie-winter/87/9a6/670
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby brianv on February 19th, 2015, 12:51 am

But just to be clear, I agree that no matter what name they slap on the image representing him, this appears to be just another simulated character, so it is a mistake for us to even use the terms he or him. :-)


Phew, thank heavens for that, I thought I was going to have to go through my usual routine. It's so blindingly obvious. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile...
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 2:10 am

Ding Ding, after doing a little more image-based-searching, we now have a second photo of this "Charlie Winter / Charlie Cooper" character:

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https://middleeastatkings.wordpress.com ... sian-gulf/

Which then led to finding a twitter feed for "Charlie Winter" (which USED to be a twitter feed for "Charlie Cooper" @cwhcooper - as can be seen in the replies below

https://twitter.com/charliewinter/statu ... 9320506369

So now we have the biggest photo of this character,

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/56 ... SrxnB.jpeg

I don't know, perhaps this is less of a simulated-character and more of a case of a living shill/useful-idiot.

But anyway, it was kinda' fun to follow up on Maat's original point, which was, "Who writes this stuff?"

Sometimes the actual writers hide behind fake names (definitely in this case) and sometimes the actual writers hide behind fake photos of themselves (not sure in this case) but we definitely need to look into who is pumping out this stuff (this stuff, in this case, being stories which manipulate readers into thinking that there is a big problem somewhere and thus the governments are somehow justified in: dropping bombs on innocent humans living in that area as a solution.)

Oh wait, before hitting submit, I clicked the @QuilliamF link on the @CharlieWinter page, and there he posted a video of himself, in which he says at 1:25, "Islamic state's presence there [in Libya] is very troubling, and there DOES need to be a reaction to it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfs1-URo7hc

Before seeing that video, I was almost starting to tell myself that this is an actual human, not just a simulation. But watching that video, I'm starting to notice a "simulated" vibe which Maat originally pointed out in the first photo.

The "simulated" vibe in the "Charlie Winter" interview video above reminds me of the "simulated" vibe in the "Edward Snowden" interview videos.

And about the "Edward Snowden" simulated character (definitely proved by the fact that computer-graphic-simulation has been wearing glasses without a left-pad for over 3 years now), it sure is ironic about that character. I mean, I love the fact that the Snowden-Simulation released evidence proving to those interested that the ISIS founder is actually a Mossad Jew, and I love telling folks about this fact that ISIS is actually a Mossad controlled group (which explains why ISIS never kills Jews, just Christians and Arabs) - and yet I hate the fact that for full disclosure I then have to admit that the character who provided this great proof is Mossad control of ISIS, is himself actually just a CGI simulation.

Good news: most of the terrorism deaths reported in the media are faked hoaxes.

Bad news: a few of the terrorism deaths reported in the media are actual deaths, because the perpetrators do sometimes actually kill real people to initiate their land-grabs.

Good news: of those FEW terrorism deaths reported in the media which are real, most of these are perpetrated by Caucasian-CIA members and Jewish-Mossad members, for example Al-Bagdadi = Simon Elliot = Elliot Shimon.

Bad news: the recent evidence about ISIS having been created by Mossad (true) was released by Snowden, who is himself a computer simulated character (shit, so I'm using a fake character to prove that Al-Bagdadi is a Jewish actor).

Good news: most of what people see in the media are fake images of fake events with fake commentators.

Bad news: based on those FAKE images of FAKE events with FAKE commentators, most viewers then unconsciously agree to allowing REAL LIFE BOMBS to be dropped on innocent humans living in the middle east. :-(

Good news: at least there are a few humans in the world who notice the image forgeries and video forgeries and courageously show it all to the world, to help prevent humanity from being manipulated into agreeing to perpetual wars, to help increase the natural state of a species which is peace: the humans who created the September Clues forum. :-)
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 2:25 am

typo correction:

proof is Mossad control of ISIS X
proof of Mossad control of ISIS O

PS - I love to point out to folks that Ashkenazis (which my father is) are responsible for most of the deaths which they blame on Arabs, but at the same time, I am now pointing out to people that of all of the terrorism deaths in general which people see in the media, most of those terrorism deaths never happened, the images of the victims and perpetrators and commentators are usually all CGI.

So yeah, I guess is doesn't matter so much WHO is producing the hoaxes (because that will simply have us arguing forever about which group is doing most of this: Top Jews or Top CIA or Top Brits or Top Vatican) I guess the main thing I have to remember to focus on is that ALMOST ALL of the images we are being presented with are forged.

Who paid for this image to be forged? Who paid for that video to be forged? I don't know, but the fact that the images and videos are forged means that we should NOT agree to take any actions of war based on these forgeries.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 2:57 am

Sorry to be suddenly posting so much about this tiny mystery originally discovered by Maat, I just want to share a few more links I found about this "Charlie Winter / Charlie Cooper" character, who in addition to his "Anti-Terrorism Think Tank" job is also supposedly "Health Reporter for the Independent [U.K. Newspaper]"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 48685.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/a ... 6b.sus.jpg

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Man, this "Cooper" image above looks really similar to the "Snowden" images. I wonder if there's a connection.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby brianv on February 19th, 2015, 3:58 am

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Me too, as IC just said. I found this via TinEye

Goldsmiths MA Journalism graduate Charlie Cooper, who is now a reporter on the Independent, has been nominated for Young Journalist of the Year in the prestigious British Press Awards.Cooper’s nomination came on a day of significant successes for three other past and present Goldsmiths MA Journalism students in gaining important trainee positions with national newspapers.

http://www.spotlight-goldsmiths.org.uk/ ... ess-award/


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This guy pops up too on Google search, I got a Breivik shiver not a Snowden one.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 54841.html
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 5:29 am

On one hand, we know this "Charlie Winter" character at the War-Initiation-Justifying-Think-Tank used to be labelled "Charlie Cooper", due to the fact that his current twitter account shows the name change clearly. https://twitter.com/charliewinter/statu ... 9320506369

(the "Charlie" controller must have gotten lazy, because one really should CREATE A NEW TWITTER ACCOUNT if you're going to suddenly change the name of the character.)

Now here's a little problem: the supposedly self-created profile for "Charlie Winter" says this character earned a Master's Degree (in Arabic) at "The University of Edinburgh", then another Master's Degree (in Middle Eastern Studies) at "King's College London, University of London" http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/charlie-winter/87/9a6/670 OK, that's a nice background story for this Arabic Translating Think Tank staff character...

... meanwhile, here comes a conflict in character story lines: the old "Charlie Cooper" persona claims to have earned a totally different Master's Degree in JOURNALISM at "Goldsmiths, University of London" http://www.gold.ac.uk/news/homepage-new ... heyear.php

Um, so which is it "Charlie", did your character get two Masters in Arabic Studies, or did you get a Masters in Journalism? If "Charlie" really got this THIRD Masters, in Journalism, why isn't this Journalism Masters being mentioned in the Linked-In Profile above?

So, next I searched for "Charlie Cooper" + "Goldsmiths" and I found this:
"Congratulations!! Charlie Cooper (@CharlieCooper8), one of the #MAJournalism class of 2010-11, now a reporter on the @Independent, has just been nominated for young journalist of the year in the British Press Awards! Crossing our fingers.."
https://www.facebook.com/MediaCommunica ... 5295982448

So of course I went to twitter to see if this old "Charlie Cooper" account still exists... and it does! Even as "Charlie Winter" has his "personal" twitter account (twitter.com@CharlieWinter, which obviously used to be labelled twitter.com@CwhCooper, which also shows his current employer's twitter account twitter.com@QuilliamF) now here we have his "personal, personal" twitter account twitter.com@CharlieCooper8

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Scrolling down through this twitter account, I see his work e-mail address at the Independent is supposedly "c.cooper@independent.co.uk"

But scrolling through google's other CharlieCooper8 results, I see his personal e-mail address is/was supposedly "charliecooper8@gmail.com" (http://www.ispotnature.org/node/118516) back when he was supposedly working at the EastLondonLines.co.uk (http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2011/0 ... yes-to-av/)

Now if I were a neutral person reading all of these posts from this newbie Observer member, I would probably think, "This is just a waste of time, this Charlie is just a tiny character, who (whether merely a useful idiot, or a paid actor, or a totally fabricated simulated CGI character) doesn't matter at all to the ISIS thread. This tangent, about some supposed think-tank-author pushing for war in Syria, both on paper and in video interviews, is a waste of space."

In reply, I would say, "Yeah, you're right, delving deeply into this one character is a distraction, I shouldn't waste my time on this... but I sure would love to bust this character, by finding some images of him with the same exact frozen-face pixels somewhere thus proving this character is CGI, or at the very least, to bust this character for lying about his conflicting university degree claims." :-)

PS - Please don't think that by searching deeply about this one character somehow proves or disproves anything about the big media fakery reality. I'm just going deep and posting what I find.

Sometimes I go google crazy and start searching deeply, here is another little discovery I made:

The Internet Archive Censorship Scandal

https://ia601603.us.archive.org/1/items ... orship.bmp
https://archive.org/post/176741/the-int ... ip-scandal
http://frankmccown.blogspot.jp/2008/01/ ... rship.html

Yep, I got Brewster Kahle, Founder of Internet Archive, to go on the record, as he tried to explain WHY those gaps exist.
Then, I attempted to post that fact onto Wikipedia, since Brewster Kahle had commented on it, but Jimbo Wales refused.
It turns out a fact, even after having been admitted by the founder of Intenet Archive, can't be posted when Jimbo refuses.

So yeah, I'm more proud of that little discovery project I did (as "Victoria Sachs", yes I used a pen name for that project) compared with this tiny 5 hour little discovery of Charlie Winter being played by Charlie Cooper.

Even IF this one war-pusher Cooper-Winter were to turn out to be a living human, this does NOT change the fact that MOST of the war-pushers and terrorism-victims are indeed computer graphic images, as has been proven by Hoi's VicSim work and the other contributors here. So I guess I'm gonna' stop investigating this one chump, so that this thread can get back to posting more proof of media fakery: forged images which manipulate the minds of the masses into accepting physical wars and fiat slavery.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Observer on February 19th, 2015, 5:57 am

God damn it, I just can't stop googling this character.

In "Charlie Winter"'s linked-in profile, in which he bragged about his 2 Arabic Master's degrees but somehow didn't mention at all his Journalism Master's degree, he DID brag at the bottom of that profile about "Cooper" having received the "Ulrich Simon Prize" in "2013". So, I googled those terms, and discovered this:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%2 ... %222013%22

Which google cache is still currently showing us, while the webpage itself is currently leading to a "404 - page no longer available" message.

So, just from that Google Cache, we can now see this character's full original name as being:

"Charles WINTER HOPE Cooper"

So googling that name in quotes, I find:

"Big shout out to the poshest person I have ever met: Charles Winter Hope Cooper. He was the asbolutely richest boy in the world..."
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boa ... al/2537248

The only thing this digging about "Charles/Charlie" has proven is that The Independent is DEFINITELY guilty of fooling their readers:
http://www.independent.co.uk/biography/charlie-cooper
http://www.independent.co.uk/biography/ ... 54908.html
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby Critical Mass on February 19th, 2015, 9:07 am

Obviously Simon will be busy now that Italy* is preparing to 'fight them on the Beaches'... so perhaps another mod can, yet again, re-update the video for the first post in this thread.

This link is current.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIYboLbwV4Y

This must be, at least, the fifth time I've had to ask a moderator to do this. Each time the link dies... there are now few places you can find the 'full' 2:44 version.

For anybody new to the subject of 'Media Fakery' ask yourselves this... why don't they wish you to watch this clip?

Is it the 'danger' it poses in 'converting' other young, white Australian teenagers?

Really? It's a comedy sketch... all that's missing is canned laughter.

If this was a 'real war' the video would be a counter propagandists dream. You'd have round-the-clock Mainstream TV shows taking the piss out of the 'Fisherboy' and those silly fools who join ISIS.

We don't... instead we get repeated attempts to flush this absurdity down the memory hole.



* I suspect it might be a strategic ruse... everyone knows that you can't take Italy without first taking Sicily. I reckon the legions of ISIS will invade French Guiana... from there they'll have access to Mars & beyond.
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Re: The Rise & fall of ISIS

Postby simonshack on February 20th, 2015, 1:14 am

Maat wrote:Oh bloody ‘ell! Image :lol: As we so often ask rhetorically, “Who writes this shit!”— it’s just getting stoopider! The “essay” & its “analysis” read like bad satire: http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/wp/wp ... the-is.pdf



THE QUILLIAM FOUNDATION - formed by "former terrorists"


Dear Maat,

Please know that Ed Husain, one of the original founders of that bizarre, London-based "QUILLIAM FOUNDATION", has now been 'promoted' as a member of the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations).

Image ED HUSAIN
http://www.cfr.org/experts/civil-societ ... ain/b15381

Just like ED HUSAIN, as the story goes, the other 'top brass' at the Quilliam Foundation are all former "islamist extremists" who, we are told, have 'gradually transformed' over time and adopted "secular, liberal & democratic (Western) values"...

Here's the other founder of the Quilliam Foundation, MAAJID NAWAZ:
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"His work is informed by years spent in his youth as a leadership member of a global Islamist group, and his gradual transformation towards liberal democratic values. Having served four years as an Amnesty International adopted ‘prisoner of conscience’ in Egypt, Maajid is now a leading critic of his former Islamist ideological dogma, while remaining a Muslim. He encourages inclusive citizenship-based participation of Muslims in the West, while seeking to synergize a respect for human rights with the civic liberal imperative to defend those in danger of being stigmatized by extremists of all stripes due to their personal choices."

Here's the President of the Quilliam Foundation, NOMAN BENOTMAN (you've gotta love the fancy no-man-be-not-man name):
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"After the Soviet withdrawal, he helped set up the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group which aimed to violently overthrow Colonel Gaddafi and establish an ‘Islamic state’ in Libya. In 1994, he moved to Sudan where he forged close links with Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and other key members of al-Qaeda. He is also well known as one of the most public critics of al-Qaeda, appearing widely on international media such as CNN and al-Jazeera as well as taking part in a range of international conferences."

And here is the Quilliam Foundation's managing director, HARAS RAFIQ:
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"Haras Rafiq is Quilliam’s Managing Director. He was formerly a member of the UK Government task force looking at countering extremism in response to the 2005 terrorist bombings in London, As part of his work, Haras is committed to countering xenophobia and hatred, and has spoken at many conferences and events, including the Global Forum on combating anti-Semitism (December 2009), as well as being a Chair of a working group of the Global Experts’ Forum on anti-Semitism in Ottawa in 2010."

So, as a possible answer to your question ("Who writes this shit?") - the Quilliam Foundation may well be one of 'them'. In any case, it seems to be one of those phony 'expert islamic "think tanks" created by the Nutwork so as to "intellectually back up" the notion of the existence of Al-Qaeda / ISIS - and such fabricated 'enemies of the Western world'.


For sure, that dubious (Je Suis) Charlie Winter-Cooper entity is also a Quilliam Foundation creation - and it shows...
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