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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby anonjedi2 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:42 am

I know we don't have a dedicated Global Warming / Climate Change / Carbon Pollution thread on Cluesforum, but in light of the current state of the climate in the US, I thought it would be fun to post this marvelous piece of propaganda from the year 2000, considering most of the USA is currently covered with snow, and much of the planet has seen more snow and cold than usual, including the UK. The article was a joke at the time and even more absurd 15 years later.

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past

Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives.

Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters - which scientists are attributing to global climate change - produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries.

The first two months of 2000 were virtually free of significant snowfall in much of lowland Britain, and December brought only moderate snowfall in the South-east. It is the continuation of a trend that has been increasingly visible in the past 15 years: in the south of England, for instance, from 1970 to 1995 snow and sleet fell for an average of 3.7 days, while from 1988 to 1995 the average was 0.7 days. London's last substantial snowfall was in February 1991.


Shall we ask the citizens of England if the trend has continued since 2000? Or should we ask the scientists? :D

Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.


So now that the trends have reversed and all of this warming has stopped, is it still accepted as reality by the international community? Better lose that Global Warming name, quick ;)

The hottest years were the 1930s, by far. Modern day measurements are selective and used cherry-picked data and discard data than don't fit their narrative.

However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.

The effects of snow-free winter in Britain are already becoming apparent. This year, for the first time ever, Hamleys, Britain's biggest toyshop, had no sledges on display in its Regent Street store. "It was a bit of a first," a spokesperson said.

Fen skating, once a popular sport on the fields of East Anglia, now takes place on indoor artificial rinks. Malcolm Robinson, of the Fenland Indoor Speed Skating Club in Peterborough, says they have not skated outside since 1997. "As a boy, I can remember being on ice most winters. Now it's few and far between," he said.

Michael Jeacock, a Cambridgeshire local historian, added that a generation was growing up "without experiencing one of the greatest joys and privileges of living in this part of the world - open-air skating".

Warmer winters have significant environmental and economic implications, and a wide range of research indicates that pests and plant diseases, usually killed back by sharp frosts, are likely to flourish. But very little research has been done on the cultural implications of climate change - into the possibility, for example, that our notion of Christmas might have to shift.


Has that happened? God forbid we have to shift our Christmas shopping season!

Professor Jarich Oosten, an anthropologist at the University of Leiden in the Netherlands, says that even if we no longer see snow, it will remain culturally important.

"We don't really have wolves in Europe any more, but they are still an important part of our culture and everyone knows what they look like," he said.

David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Berkshire, says ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes - or eventually "feel" virtual cold.

Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said.

The chances are certainly now stacked against the sortof heavy snowfall in cities that inspired Impressionist painters, such as Sisley, and the 19th century poet laureate Robert Bridges, who wrote in "London Snow" of it, "stealthily and perpetually settling and loosely lying".

Not any more, it seems.


http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 24017.html


Charlatans. The lot of them. :) Shouldn't these scientists lose their jobs? Shouldn't the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction lose all funding and be shut down? No, instead they just continuously move the goal posts and make up the science as they go along.

Meanwhile, our friends at NASA just released this "satellite photograph" ...

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http://sploid.gizmodo.com/nasa-satellit ... hris-mills

At the same time, other media outlets are reporting that the "Northeastern United States" is covered with snow. They really don't want you to know how much snow and ice is really out there, lest you become skeptical about their far-fetched claims! :D

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http://imgick.al.com/home/bama-media/wi ... mmmain.jpg

Let this one example be a reminder to all Cluesforum readers of the absurdity of the Climate Change fraud and indeed the entire field of Climate Science as well as eco/green/environmental agenda and its dreadfully obvious propaganda.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Flabbergasted on Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:31 pm

As would-have-been-CF-member Charles Fort once said:
There would not be so much science, if people had good memories.
(The Complete Books of Charles Fort, p. 576. Dover Publications, ISBN 0-486-23094-5).
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby brianv on Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:45 pm

J.G. Ballard - The Book Programme Interview - BBC 2 TV - Audio- 04/02/1978

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNJKAKQUb0

Pay attention @ 14:08

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Book The_Space_Merchants 1952

Summary
In a vastly overpopulated world, businesses have taken the place of governments and now hold all political power. States exist merely to ensure the survival of huge trans-national corporations


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Merchants
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby brianv on Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:27 pm

brianv wrote:J.G. Ballard - The Book Programme Interview - BBC 2 TV - Audio- 04/02/1978

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNJKAKQUb0

Pay attention @ 14:08

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Book The_Space_Merchants 1952

Summary
In a vastly overpopulated world, businesses have taken the place of governments and now hold all political power. States exist merely to ensure the survival of huge trans-national corporations


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Merchants


Bottom line. We are living in a world of fantasies created for us by advertising executives. Consumer fantasies, airplane crash fantasies, assassination fantasies, missing children fantasies, terrorist fantasies, war fantasies, space fantasies, end-of-the-world nuclear annihilation fantasies, killer disease fantasies, political fantasies ETC ETC ETC. WE have to stop wasting years from our lives studying images made inside some advertising clown's mind and then transferred to a TV or Computer. Are we becoming like the doctor who treats the Symptom but not the Disease or the Man?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:35 pm

I see it like we are like the friend who tries to help their friend realize they are not well, and they should seek serious counsel.

Of course, we are working hard on our own problems, but we'd like everyone to be well.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Observer on Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:53 am

brianv wrote:Are we becoming like the doctor who treats the Symptom but not the Disease or the Man?


hoi.polloi wrote:I see it like we are like the friend who tries to help their friend realize they are not well


Yeah BV & HP - I guess somebody has to prove to humanity, with a video experience perhaps, that humanity currently does indeed have the mental disease of foolishly assuming the computer graphic animated forged images shown on television news channels are evidence of actual events.

To prove this fact one could create a computer graphic animation experience which actually fools the viewer for awhile, and then suddenly reveals the fact that the viewer was fooled, perhaps this experience will help prove to humanity the existence of this mental disease. "You were fooled by CGI just now, here is the evidence. And we all were fooled by CGI in 2001, here is the evidence. And we have discovered CGI forgeries televised by mainstream media many times from 2001 through 2015, here is the evidence."

I think what you two are wisely pointing at indirectly, is the fact that even AFTER that powerful video experience is created (which I hope you two unite with Simon to create over the next year), that even AFTER it has been proven to humanity that this mental disease exists (the mental disease of assuming that news channels don't televise computer graphic images) that even that itself might be a symptom of an even DEEPER mental disease.

Perhaps the deeper underlying mental disease is that humanity naively assumes that the world's richest 100 humans somehow LACK the inherent motive and ability to pay for trusted sources to vouch for forged images.

Perhaps the even deeper underlying mental disease is that humanity assumes that we should not DO SOMETHING about the fact that all 7 billion humans living on earth today could, all at the exact same time, enjoy a much better life (a quantifiable million times better life, do the calculation) if we were to reset the capitalism competition starting point, right here, right now: by suddenly justly dividing evenly into 7 billion parts ALL of the earth's resources fairly to each living human.

Songs need to be sung which describe the million-times-better-life that 6,999,999,900 humans can enjoy right now, immediately, as soon as we are ready to grab it, by simply redistributing the wealth currently unlawfully held by the world's richest 100 humans.

After The Big Reset (which is coming, it is just a matter of WHEN) then with each of the humans standing at the same fair starting point (meaning each human allocated randomly equal trade-able amounts of arable land and gold), then from that moment the competition will begin freshly.

It will be interesting for all of humanity to see, after The Big Reset, that the 100 humans who previously were unlawfully hoarding 99.99% of humanity's resources, will have a difficult time zooming past the rest of humanity in the subsequent Post-Reset capitalism competition.

Stripped of all the hoarded capital which they inherited from their ancestors who didn't earn it lawfully, no longer able to simply profit from inherited inequality, no longer able to lazily earn capital by merely having inherited more capital, these 100 will be forced by The Big Reset to rejoin humanity in an actual competition of the minds: in which humanity rewards those who actually produce the best contributions to the overall happiness of humanity. :-)

Possible summary: Media-fakery is a symptom of some humans having the resources which give the ability to bribe/fool/create the various channels of trusted-sources, and that ability itself is a symptom the world's richest 100 humans owning 99.99% of the earth's resources.

Reducing the fakery-ability requires reducing the bribery-ability, which requires reducing the current-inequality-level. The current-inequality-level has reached an absolutely crazy proportion: 6,999,999,990 regular-humans owning a tiny fraction of the amount the 100 richest unlawfully-hoarding-humans currently control in early 2015.

The Big Reset is coming, it has been imagined, it is being shared, it will happen. Whether it happens quickly or slowly, or right away suddenly all at once, the speed of change is up to us, the regular majority, to take righteous lawful action.

To increase humanity's chances of survival and to increase individual happiness, we are immediately getting our minds clear of the old mistake/disease: the mental disease of believing the richest 100 humans' fakery-images which are broadcast worldwide by the "trusted sources".

Or maybe what is being pointed at by Brian and Hoi is that the disease goes even deeper, beyond all of the external problem of the forged images being televised, into the fact that we humans make the internal mistake of trusting any story-telling-sources in the first place.

Possible Solution: from now on, we should only trust what one can see in the 100 meter bubble around ones own self, because digital images can no longer be trusted.

Only what we see in our daily 100 meter bubble is proven. Every other story that comes in, about a supposed event reported to be occurring elsewhere OUTSIDE your 100 meter bubble of reality, is just that: a mere story which is possibly and probably fiction.

And, just to end on a positive note - even though we all have inherited just a tiny fraction of what is rightfully ours - I would like to report some good news (although, since digital-words are just as evidence-less as digital-images, make sure you don't believe these words, but instead go outside and check your own reality bubble for yourself to see if they ring true) that the small sample of humans that I physically interact with each day are on average quite nice, and are rarely hurting other humans, and are instead usually helping other humans, just like me, to have a pleasant experience, to have a good time, to have a nice day.

In the world of hollywood/media/internet stories, the majority of the stories claim that the majority of humans selfishly deprive happiness regardless of the sadness of others, but in the reality bubble I see everyday: the majority of humans altruistically gain happiness from seeing the happiness of others.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Cobra Commander on Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:30 am

Simon,

I just watched a video by Truth Media Revolution (Red Pill Revolution) which seemed like a teaser for an upcoming video featuring yourself. Is this a new video which you will be collaborating with him, or is it a video with clips of your previous works? Has me very intrigued if it is a new video. He has been telling people now to see September Clues and Cluesforum.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby hoi.polloi on Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:26 am

Cobra Commander wrote:Simon,

I just watched a video by Truth Media Revolution (Red Pill Revolution) which seemed like a teaser for an upcoming video featuring yourself. Is this a new video which you will be collaborating with him, or is it a video with clips of your previous works? Has me very intrigued if it is a new video. He has been telling people now to see September Clues and Cluesforum.


Cobra Commander, check out the REQUIRED: Introduce Yourself thread where TruthMediaRevolution has introduced themselves and invited Simon to a show to explain CluesForum to their audience.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Critical Mass on Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:00 pm

First an interesting tidbit...

Nevada Test Site gave astronaut trainees taste of lunar landscape


Second an observation...

Has anybody else noticed that the vast majority of the photos at 'Voices of September 11th' appear to be no longer accessible?


Third an innocent query...

Why were there 524 users online at Cluesforum on 21 Apr 2013?


I joined after that date & I don't think I've seen the users online count ever breach 100... so what made it hit over 500?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby HonestlyNow on Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Critical Mass wrote:Third an innocent query...

Why were there 524 users online at Cluesforum on 21 Apr 2013?


I joined after that date & I don't think I've seen the users online count ever breach 100... so what made it hit over 500?

It's most probably to do with the Boston Marathon event that took place on April 15, 2013. And who knows if the shill-nutwork was also keeping track of the goings on at this site in that time period.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby Selene on Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:22 pm

HonestlyNow wrote:
Critical Mass wrote:Third an innocent query...

Why were there 524 users online at Cluesforum on 21 Apr 2013?


I joined after that date & I don't think I've seen the users online count ever breach 100... so what made it hit over 500?

It's most probably to do with the Boston Marathon event that took place on April 15, 2013. And who knows if the shill-nutwork was also keeping track of the goings on at this site in that time period.


Please forgive my "ignorance" if this has been debunked as fake as well (I am doing my best to follow as much as possible; there's only 28 hours in a day), but the so-called lockdown of 2 million people should keep leading us as humans to look for the truth.

Military in the streets to keep millions of people imprisoned while "searching" for 1 guy with 1 gun with maximum 12 bullets who they led walk away some nights before (at least that's what the mass media claimed themselves), I hope this horrific sight keeps getting attention by everyone. Always.

I only joined after but not because "Hebdo", so no personal experience here. :unsure:

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby HonestlyNow on Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:45 pm

Selene wrote:Please forgive my "ignorance" if this has been debunked as fake as well . . .

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1602
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby anonjedi2 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:34 am

Dear Cluesforum members,

Meet Vesna Vulović!

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This story is from 1972 in which it is claimed that VV, a former Serbian flight attendant survived a fall from JAT Flight 367, at 33,333 feet and survived! :rolleyes:

The official report of the Czechoslovak investigation commission that was handed over to the ICAO on 7 May 1974, stated that there had been an explosion in the front baggage compartment of the plane. The Czechoslovak secret service (Státní bezpečnost), which was leading the investigation, presented parts of an alarm clock ten days after the crash which they claimed came from a bomb. The report concluded that the explosion was the result of a bomb.


Imagine that! What a lucky woman! :P

She suffered a fractured skull, three broken vertebrae (one crushed completely) that left her temporarily paralyzed from the waist down, and two broken legs. She was in a coma for 27 days.


She went on to become quite famous and politically active. Funny how that always seems to happen, isn't it? In any case, if you'd like some more details on this whopper of a lie, I encourage you to visit the Wikipedia entry for more information.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby brianv on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:49 pm

^ :lol:

Two neurons collided last night just as I was drifting off to sleep...

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Aman Zafar - Abraham Zapruper

http://amanzafar.com/WTC/index.html

http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/11/ ... v-22-1963/
[st]Must admit, I never noticed Zafar's "banana building" before.[/st] Must have another look at that set, it's been a few years. I did actually. :rolleyes:

Apparently the amanzafar images are scans from analog photographs, which have never seen the light of day. I'm trying to recall the email conversation I had with "Zafar" about 12 years ago, I do remember asking him what he did with the roll of film, to which he replied "Oh I left it near the oven and it got destroyed". I ain't kidding. He became rather indignant when I suggested they were fake! And now I'm wondering why he (A) wasn't arrested for stupidity (B) and the Photo Shop which "processed the film" weren't arrested for withholding information (C) didn't hand it over to the alleged "authorities" (D) didn't have 100 copies made to send to the clowns styling themselves "the media and the government". Well we all know the answer to that!!

The "image" above will probably be pulled as it's hotlinked. Actually, kill it if problematic Simon!
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Unread postby anonjedi2 on Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:44 am

The Sokal Affair

The Sokal affair was a hoax by Alan Sokal (a physicist) perpetrated on the postmodern cultural studies journal Social Text (published by Duke University). In 1996, he submitted a paper of nonsense camouflaged in jargon to see if the journal would “publish an article liberally salted with nonsense if (a) it sounded good and (b) it flattered the editors’ ideological preconceptions.”

The Sokal affair, also called the Sokal hoax,[1] was a publishing hoax perpetrated by Alan Sokal, a physics professor at New York University and University College London. In 1996, Sokal submitted an article to Social Text, an academic journal of postmodern cultural studies. The submission was an experiment to test the journal's intellectual rigor and, specifically, to investigate whether "a leading North American journal of cultural studies – whose editorial collective includes such luminaries as Fredric Jameson and Andrew Ross – [would] publish an article liberally salted with nonsense if (a) it sounded good and (b) it flattered the editors' ideological preconceptions".[2]

The article, "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity", was published in the Social Text spring/summer 1996 "Science Wars" issue. It proposed that quantum gravity is a social and linguistic construct. At that time, the journal did not practice academic peer review and it did not submit the article for outside expert review by a physicist.[3][4] On the day of its publication in May 1996, Sokal revealed in Lingua Franca that the article was a hoax, identifying it as "a pastiche of left-wing cant, fawning references, grandiose quotations, and outright nonsense ... structured around the silliest quotations [by postmodernist academics] he could find about mathematics and physics."[2]

The hoax sparked a debate about the scholarly merit of humanistic commentary about the physical sciences; the influence of postmodern philosophy on social disciplines in general; academic ethics, including whether Sokal was wrong to deceive the editors and readers of Social Text; and whether Social Text had exercised appropriate intellectual rigor.


The entire Wiki page is worth a read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

Another recent example of this same situation is the 2005 Rooter Paper; this was a paper randomly generated by a computer which was submitted – and consequently approved as legitimate – to a scientific conference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgen
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