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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by ICfreely » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:38 am

Well Jumpy, I guess the opening line of the following song somewhat applies to you (in a good way). They say the truth comes out in anger. Sticks and stones may break your bones but the truth can devastate you. If Ice Cube’s (back when he was ICE CUBE) title doesn’t say it all, the lyrics most certainly do.

PARENTAL ADVISORY: Studio Gangstas’ is bad for yo' kids’ mental health!

Ice Cube - No Vaseline (N.W.A Diss)

full link:

Got damn, I'm glad ya'll set it off.
Used to be hard, now you're just wet and soft.
First you was down with the AK,
and now I see you on a video with Michel'le? [A scandalous hood rat/Dr. Dre & Suge Knight's baby-mamma]
Lookin' like straight bozos.
I saw it comin', that's why I went solo.
And kept on stompin',
when ya'll mothafuckers moved straight outta Compton.
Livin' with the whites, one big house,
and not another nigga in site.
I started off with too much cargo,
dropped four niggas now I'm makin' all the dough.
White man just rulin'.
The Niggas With Attitudes -- who ya foolin'?
Ya'll niggas just phony,
I put that on my mama and my dead homeys.
Yella Boy's on your team, so you're losin';
Ay yo Dre, stick to producin'.
Callin' me Arnold, but you Been-a-dick;
Eazy E saw your ass and went in it quick.
You got jealous when I got my own company,
but I'm a man, and ain't nobody helpin' me.
Tryin' to sound like Amerikkka's Most,
you could yell all day but you don't come close.
Cuz you know I'm the one that flown,
ya done run 100 miles, but you still got one to go.
With the L-E-N-C-H M-O-B, and ya'll disgrace the C-P-T. :angry:
Cuz you're gettin' fucked out your green by a white boy,
with no vaseline...

[L.L. sample:] "Now you're gettin' done without vaseline..." [3x]
[Biz Markie sample:] "Damn, it feels good to see people...on it"

The bigger the cap, the bigger the peelin',
who gives a fuck about a punk-ass villain?
You're gettin' fucked real quick,
and Eazy's dick, is smellin' like MC Ren's shit.
Tried to tell you a year ago,
but Willie D told me to let a hoe be a hoe, so
I couldn't stop you from gettin' ganked,
now let's play big-bank-take-little-bank.
Tried to dis Ice Cube, it wasn't worth it
cuz the broomstick fit your ass so perfect.
Cut my hair and I'll cut them balls,
cuz I heard you're, like, givin' up the drawers.
Gang-banged by your manager, fella,
gettin' money out your ass, like a mothafuckin' Ready Teller.
Givin' up the dollar bills,
now they got the Villain with a purse and high-heels.
So don't believe what Ren say,
cuz he's goin' out like Kunte Kinte,
but I got a whip for ya Toby;
used to be my homey, now you act like you don't know me.
It's a case of divide-and-conquer,
cuz you let a Jew break up my crew.
House nigga gotta run and hide,
yellin' Compton, but you moved to Riverside.
So don't front, MC Ren, cuz I remember when you drove a B 2-10.
Broke as a mothafuckin' joke.
Let you on the scene to back up the Verse Team.
It ain't my fault, one nigga got smart,
and they rippin' your asshole apart.
By takin' your green, oh yeah,
the Villain does get fucked with no vaseline.

[Refrain scratched]

I never have dinner with the President.
I never have dinner with the President.
I never have dinner with the President.

And when I see your ass again, I'll be hesitant.
Now I think you a snitch,
throw a house nigga in a ditch.
Half-pint bitch, fuckin' your homeboys.
You little maggot; Eazy E turned faggot.
With your manager, fella,
fuckin' MC Ren, Dr. Dre, and Yella.
But if they were smart as me,
Eazy E would be hangin' from a tree.
With no vaseline, just a match and a little bit of gasoline.
Light 'em up, burn 'em up, flame on...
till that Jheri curl is gone.
On a permanent vacation, off the Massa plantation.
Heard you both got the same bank account,
dumb nigga, what you thinkin' bout?
Get rid of that Devil real simple, put a bullet in his temple.
Cuz you can't be the Nigga 4 Life crew
with a white Jew tellin' you what to do.
Pullin' wools with your scams, now I gotta play the Silence of the Lambs.
With a midget who's a punk too,
tryin' to fuck me, but I'd rather fuck you.
Eric Wright, punk, always into somethin', gettin' fucked at night.
By Mista Shitpacker, bend over for the gotdamn cracker, no vaseline...

Ice Cubes’ break from N.W.A. was a revolutionary move which led to the formation of Da Lynch Mob – Planet of the Apes! :)

Ice Cube now wants a dinner with the president! :)

Ice Cube Wants Dinner With Barack Obama ... 9369.html#

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by simonshack » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:03 am

Now, THAT'S some badass music and lyrics. Thanks, IC. Truly enjoyed it. :)

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by ICfreely » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:07 pm

jumpy64 wrote:
Is it possible that these “master infiltrators” - who have managed to infiltrate the infiltrators, so to speak - don’t know and apply this simple principle? I really don’t think so. ... 5#p2398225

Well Jumpy, I don’t believe in the ‘Germ Theory’ of ‘master infiltrators’ either! Fear & hate go hand-in-hand. If you’ve been programmed, from birth, to believe you’re better than everyone else and that they’re all out to get you, then (not surprisingly) you will most likely grow up to be a hateful person.

Sympathy For The Devil by the Rolling Stones

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Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul to waste

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain

I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
(Woo woo, woo woo)

I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
(Woo woo, woo woo)

I shouted out,
Who killed the Kennedys? [ :rolleyes: ]
When after all
It was you and me [ :( ? - JIGGA PLEaZe! :lol: :lol: :lol: ]
(Who who, who who)

Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached Bombay
(Woo woo, who who)

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
(Who who)
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby
(Who who, who who)

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game
(Woo woo, who who)

Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint
(WH :unsure: WH :unsure: , WH :unsure: WH :unsure: )

So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
(Woo woo)

Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste, mm yeah
[mm NO!]
(Woo woo, woo woo)
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, mm yeah
(Who who)

But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, mm mean it, get down
(Woo woo, woo woo)

Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Oh yeah!
(Woo woo)

Tell me baby, what's my name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
Tell me baby, what's my name
I tell you one time, you're to blame

Oh, who
Woo, woo
Woo, who
Woo, woo
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Oh, yeah

What's my name
Tell me, baby, what's my name
Tell me, sweetie, what's my name

Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who

Oh, yeah
Woo woo
Woo woo

My sense of RIGHT and WRONG impedes me from having any sympathy for stone rollin' DEVILS of any stripe. In the words of Monsieur T, "I pity the fools!"

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by simonshack » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:21 pm

ICfreely wrote: I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL > writers: Jagger / Richards

One has to wonder if the young, 25-year-old rockers Mick Jagger / or Keith Richards really authored these lyrics... I mean, what would these kids possibly know / or care about the thugs who slaughtered the czar and his entire family (including Anastasia, one of his five children) - and where would Mick or Keith have read about who was behind the devilish (and senseless) mass murder of that entire family, kids and all? Sympathy for WHOM, now again?


Here's from :

"MOSCOW -- The exact circumstances surrounding the deaths of Russia's last imperial family have long been shrouded in mystery.

But the confusion took a bizarre turn when the Russian Orthodox Church asked: Did Czar Nicholas II and his family perish in "a ritual murder" perpetrated by a Jewish conspiracy?

No matter how strange the question might seem, it is listed on the agenda of a Russian government commission charged with investigating the death of the czar and his family and identifying his remains. The commission had been in limbo since 1995. But it was revived last month by its new chairman, Russia's first deputy prime minister, Boris Nemtsov, who said he planned to complete the probe by January.

The question about a Jewish role in the imperial family's death in 1918 was one of 10 questions submitted to the commission in 1995 by the Holy Synod, the governing body of the Russian Orthodox Church." ... r-s-death/

In any case, thanks ICFreely : I'd always known that Brian Epstein, the Beatles' manager was jewish - but little did I know that the Stones' manager (Andrew Loog Oldham) was jewish too. You live & learn, I guess... ... ng-stones/

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by fbenario » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:42 am

simonshack wrote:One has to wonder if the young, 25-year-old rockers Mick Jagger / or Keith Richards really authored these lyrics... I mean, what would these kids possibly know / or care about the thugs who slaughtered the czar and his entire family (including Anastasia, one of his five children) - and where would Mick or Keith have read about who was behind the devilish (and senseless) mass murder of that entire family, kids and all?
It does seem unlikely that Jagger and Richards would have known enough Russian history to write a lyric about Anastasia. However, they might have learned a few basic facts from current media coverage of the book world.

In 1967 American historian Robert Massie published the famous biography Nicholas & Alexandra about the downfall and supposed murder of the Romanov ruling dynasty. From what I understand the book was well-known right from the start, so Jagger/Richards might have read book reviews at that time. The song appeared soon after on the 1968 album Beggars Banquet.

Jagger's father was a teacher, Mick was apparently a good student, and he actually might still have had some basic amount of intellectual curiosity at that time. Who knows.

I was assigned to read the book in a history class in 1977, and even at that young age I had already heard of it beforehand.

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by pov603 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:53 am

Has anyone seen a documentary about the Rolling Stones which showed archive footage of their early years leading up to their [MJ & KR] arrest for drug possession?
[I only saw part of it and can't find the name or reference of this documentary on imdb so if someone is interested and can help find it I'd be grateful].
They were bailed to appear at court where:
On 29 June, the judge sentenced Jagger to three months for possession of amphetamines and Richards to one year in jail for allowing cannabis to be smoked in his home.
Richards had blurted out something about 'not recognizing (the judge's authority)' hence the harsher sentence.
The sentences were overturned on appeal. ... 522735.stm
I noticed during the documentary KR narrating [being interviewed many years later] over the footage of them appearing in court and the melee that ensued with sentencing etc and ultimate release.
His narration included him insinuating that [paraphrasing] 'it was like I was following a script' and that 'it had all been written out for me' all the while, sniggering during his narration.
It makes you wonder if/how much they were controlled.

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by Apache » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:11 am

pov603 wrote:Has anyone seen a documentary about the Rolling Stones which showed archive footage of their early years leading up to their [MJ & KR] arrest for drug possession?
[I only saw part of it and can't find the name or reference of this documentary on imdb so if someone is interested and can help find it I'd be grateful].
Which year did you see it? Was it Crossfire Hurricane - 2012?
Directed by Brett Morgen, the film features historical footage, much of it widely unseen, and commentary from Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Ronnie Wood and former Stones Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor, as well as rare interviews with Brian Jones. Period interviews, extensive live performance material and news archive footage will complete the documentary, which takes its title from the opening lines of ‘Jumpin’ Jack Flash’.
Edit: P.S
Richards and Jagger's drug arrest and trial

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by pov603 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:43 pm

Thanks for the information Apache.
I will see if I can get a copy of the film and extract the parts I'm on about.
I only saw part of it a few weeks ago but no idea if it is newish or old.
Thanks again.

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by brianv » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:10 pm

King George V (right) and his physically similar cousin Tsar Nicholas II of Russia in German military uniforms in Berlin before the war

Check Nick's mis-shaped head, courtesy of Ye Olde PhotoShoppe of course.

Actor or Actors?

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by Apache » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:42 am

pov603 wrote:Thanks for the information Apache.
I will see if I can get a copy of the film and extract the parts I'm on about.
I only saw part of it a few weeks ago but no idea if it is newish or old.
Thanks again.
I had a good look for anything that had interviews over the top of old footage and it seemed to be the most likely one. There is a much older documentary that not many people have seen, but as far as I can discover there are no voice overs. The director of Crossfire Hurricane states in many interviews that hours were spent recording the band member's voice overs of old footage and there is direct reference to the drug court case (which as you may know wasn't instigated by the police, but by The News of the World). It was at a time when the band's popularity was failing. ;) I did a search for a transcript of the movie, but there isn't one :(

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by jumpy64 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:51 am

There is no other way for the militant Jew; he must act thus. His nature compels him to destroy, even though he dimly realizes that he must destroy himself in the process. He knows at his core that he is a parasite, contingent upon his host. Thus he suffers from “dependence resentment.” What drives him is “anti-Semitism,” which he cannot live without, since “anti-Semitism” brings him “legitimacy.” If it does not exist, he will create it. As long as there is “anti-Semitism,” the Jew matters. If he pauses to look at a mirror, he encounters his own nothingness, which he cannot tolerate. Vulgarity, war, and arrogance are “revenge” against others because they are human, while the militant Jew is not. The militant Jew knows he can never be human. Like any parasite, he will always be a contingent entity.
This final part of an article available at and quoted by ICfreely in the "Open Conspiracy" thread made me think of a particularly creepy song by a particularly creepy (at least for me) Jewish songwriter - and also a mind-controlled one apparently (see picture below and article at ... ntrol.html - by the name of Leonard Cohen. The song is included in the soundtrack of an equally creepy movie by the half-Jewish director Oliver Stone (yes the (in)famous director of the important 9/11 myth-making movie "World Trade Center"), whose violent imagery reflect the same destructive spirit of Cohen's "prophetic" song.


I've found an enlightening interpretation of its lyrics, and I'm going to post it on the "Open Conspiracy" thread.

Here, let's just take a look at the ominous lyrics that already speak for themselves, I think.

"The Future"

Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it's lonely here,
there's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that's an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant

You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by ICfreely » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:12 pm

I’m posting the following article in its entirety as an addendum to Jumpy's following post: ... 0#p2398313

Rock’s Sympathy for the Devil

It was popularly believed in the 1930s that the legendary bluesman Robert Johnson, who inspired Muddy Waters, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones and Eric Clapton, sold his soul to the Devil in exchange for his musical gifts. It was believed Johnson had the ‘Evil Eye’ and was murdered because of his alleged power over women. He seduced the wife of a beer hall owner who in revenge laced the musician’s whisky with arsenic. Many moralists saw his fate as a punishment for dealing with the powers of darkness.

Johnson is said to have sold his soul to Old Nick during a midnight ceremony at a crossroads. However, that story did not originate with him. In the 1920s and 1930s there are numerous tales of black musicians and gamblers signing a pact with a mysterious ‘man in black’ at the crossroads. Famous examples are the black singer Clara Smith and Robert Johnson’s namesake Tommy Johnston, a decade before him. The dark stranger has been identified by some writers as either the Christian Devil or the West African trickster god Eshu, worshipped in voodoo and taken to the southern states of America by black slaves.

While there is little evidence of modern pop and rock musicians actually ‘selling their souls’ to the ‘Devil’, the link between popular music and the occult is a strong one. Christian fundamentalists have predictably seen the widespread use of magical and occult symbols in rock music as evidence it is the work of Satan, but the truth is far stranger than their religious fantasies.

Sometimes the alleged connections of famous rock musicians with occultism surfaced in apocryphal showbiz gossip or rumour. For example, everyone knows that ill-fated glam rock star Marc Bolan studied as a sorcerer’s apprentice with a magician in a French chateau (in fact he actually admitted it), that the late pop diva Dusty Springfield allegedly belonged to a satanic group called the Temple of the Prince in Manchester, and that Jim Morrison of The Doors married a Wiccan high priestess (which was true).

Then there was the 1970s British musician Graham Bond, accused by his fellow R & B artist Long John Baldry of sacrificing his pet cat in a magical ritual. Bond told his groupies he was one of the illegitimate sons of the infamous ‘black magician’ Aleister Crowley, and that his musical output was designed to contact “higher forces.” Bond also believed he had been cursed by a fellow occultist. When in 1974 the musician fell in front of a train on the London Underground in mysterious circumstances, many thought the curse had worked.

The Beatles & the Rolling Stones

The Beatles are well known for flirting with Eastern mysticism and transcendental meditation during their psychedelic hippy stage in the late 1960s. They may also have had darker interests. For instance, the Great Beast 666, Aleister Crowley, is featured (top left corner above) in the photomontage of “people we most admire” on the cover of the Fab Four’s famous album Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

Antiquarian bookseller and Crowley bibliographer Timothy D’Arch Smith relates how the Beatles attended an exhibition of rare books on witchcraft and the occult he held in Swinging London. Jane Asher, Paul McCartney’s then girlfriend, had suggested the visit to him and, according to D’Arch Smith, encouraged him to buy rare books as an investment.

If the Beatles were mildly interested in the occult, then their main rivals for the pocket money and affection of teenage girls, the Rolling Stones, were definitely involved in a more dramatic way. Despite their respectable middle-class backgrounds, in the Sixties the Stones were deliberately promoted as the ‘bad boys of pop’. It now seems this was a marketing ploy by their then manager Andrew Oldham, and is summed up in the famous newspaper headline, ‘Would you let your daughter marry a Rolling Stone?’ If the parents of Middle England had known about their dabbling in the occult, the answer may have been in the negative.

Lucifer Rising

The so-called ‘satanic’ influence on the Stones was through the avant-garde filmmaker, Luciferian and Tinseltown gossip-queen Kenneth Anger. He had become interested in the band’s career and particularly in guitarist Brian Jones and his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg, a German film actress and model. Jones had some unusual interests, and both he and the pop singer Robert Palmer were fascinated by the master musicians of Joujouka in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco in North Africa. These musicians claimed to be still practising the ancient rites of the goat-footed god Pan. Jones went so far as to travel to North Africa to record an album of the tribal music performed by this pre-Islamic cult.

In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine Robert Palmer described how he had witnessed one of these rites to Pan. He said the dancing tribesmen appeared to be in an ecstatic trance with their eyes rolled back in their heads. Palmer said that when “the power came down” the dancer was suddenly “not there.” In fact “something else” was looking out of his eyes, which began to “glow like ruby lasers” (Rolling Stone, 23 March 1989).

Kenneth Anger believed that Anita Pallenberg and Brian Jones, who was to drown in mysterious circumstances in the swimming pool of his Sussex mansion, were witches. Allegedly, Jones showed the filmmaker an extra nipple he had on his inner thigh and told him: “In another time they would have burned me [as a witch].” Extra nipples were regarded by witch-hunters as a sign of the Devil’s Mark. A friend of Anita Pallenberg, Tony Sanchez, believed she kept her drug stash hidden in an old carved wooden chest in her flat. One day he looked inside. Instead of drugs he found it contained bones and pieces of fur and skin from “strange animals.” Mick Jagger’s one time girlfriend Marianne Faithfull described how she and Pallenberg used to sit for hours reading aloud passages from Robert Graves’ book The White Goddess and studying the ancient Celtic tree alphabet.

In her autobiography Marianne Faithfull claims the gay Anger had a crush on the bisexual Stones’ singer which was not reciprocated. When the filmmaker’s sexual overtures were rejected he became a bit of a nuisance. One day he turned up at the couple’s house in Cheyne Walk, Chelsea and bizarrely threw several books by the 18th century poet and mystic William Blake through the window. Jagger responded in disgust at this stunt by burning all the copies of the occult works that Anger had given him by Crowley and the French occultist Eliphas Levi.

Despite this, Marianne Faithfull got involved in Anger’s experimental movie Lucifer Rising, allegedly financially sponsored by Anita Pallenberg, and with a score originally to be composed by Mick Jagger. Initially the Stones’ singer was to play the leading role in the film, but he got cold feet and backed out of the project altogether. In the first version, made in 1967, the lead was taken by his brother Chris Jagger. Marianne Faithfull became involved in the second version filmed in 1972 and she agreed to take the part of the demon-goddess Lilith.

Faithfull described the baby-slaying Lilith as one of the classic female archetypes and compared her with pagan goddesses such as Diana, Astarte, Ishtar, Aphrodite and Demeter. However, she added: “From the view of patriarchy, of course, she was the pure incarnation of evil” (Faithfull by Marianne Faithfull with David Datton, 224). Interestingly, the part of the ancient Egyptian god Osiris in the film was played by Donald Cammell, son of Charles Cammell, a friend and biographer of Crowley. The younger Cammell made his own films including the controversial Performance in co-operation with Nic Roeg. It starred Mick Jagger, Anita Pallenberg and the archetypal English actor Edward Fox. Donald Cammell committed suicide in the 1990s.

The shooting of Lucifer Rising took place in Egypt and Faithfull claims that as soon as the crew and cast arrived in the country it was obvious Anger did not know what he was doing as either a film director or a magician. At that stage in her life Faithfull was seriously addicted to heroin and admits she did not know what she was doing on the set either. The whole thing was a recipe for disaster. The last sequence of the film was a winter solstice rite shot at a Neolithic site in Germany. During it, Faithfull managed to fall off a mountain. She somersaulted and landed on her feet without sustaining any injury. This convinced her that her magic was stronger than Anger’s. In her autobiography she dismissed him as a “kitsch occultist” and “a witch out of a Hollywood tabloid.”

Marianne Faithfull claims that both Mick Jagger and the Stones’ lead guitarist Keith Richards were also sceptical about Anger’s “satanic hocus-pocus” and did not take any of it seriously. However, after an incident involving the magician at the house in London now shared by Richards and Anita Pallenberg, Faithfull became seriously spooked out. As a result, she believed she was under psychic attack. Allegedly, she wore a clove of garlic around her neck and slept in a circle of lit candles for protection. Whether this paranoid behaviour was connected to her heroin addiction is not known.

One of Marianne Faithfull’s tracks on her comeback album Broken English is called ‘Witches Song’. She dedicates it as “my ode to the wild pagan woman I know and have always around me.” Faithfull says she got the idea for the song after she and Mick Jagger visited an exhibition in Madrid of paintings on the theme of the Witches Sabbath by the Spanish artist Goya. Her autobiography also describes an incident when she and Jagger took LSD before visiting Primrose Hill in North London “where the ancient ley lines are supposed to run” and where modern neo-druids hold their seasonal ceremonies. Under the influence of the acid the couple saw “a great face in the sky” they were convinced was the head of the Celtic giant god Bran. This seems to fit with Faithfull’s professed pagan beliefs. In her autobiography she says she believes not in God the Father, but in the Great Goddess and her consort Pan.

Jimmy Page & Aleister Crowley

In 1969 the satanic aura around the rock mega-group Led Zeppelin reached such a pitch that, in echoes of Robert Johnson, rumours circulated in the Los Angeles music scene that its members had signed a pact in their own blood with the Devil to gain fame.

James Patrick ‘Jimmy’ Page’s well-known interest in the occult fuelled these rumours of the group’s alleged satanic activities. Described by the magazine AllMusic as “one of the all-time most influential, important and versatile [rock] guitarist and songwriters,” Page had been interested in alternative religions since childhood. While a member of the Yardbirds, he had hung out with Brian Jones and Anita Pallenberg at their studio flat in South Kensington. Page has never hidden his interest in Aleister Crowley, and Led Zeppelin’s famous album Rune has a photograph of the Great Beast on its cover. In an interview with Sounds magazine in 1976 Page is quoted as saying that Crowley was “a misunderstood genius of the twentieth-century.”

Jimmy Page purchased as many artefacts and first edition books belonging to Crowley that he could find. In 1969, Kenneth Anger rented Crowley’s old (seriously haunted) house Boleskine on the shores of Loch Ness where he lived in the 1900s for a few months. When it came on the market for sale, Anger suggested to Page he should buy it. This he did and hired an occult artist called Charles Pace to paint suitable atmospheric magical murals in each room. The Led Zeppelin guitarist could be seen driving around the area like a Scottish laird in a Land Rover with a stack of stag’s antlers on the bonnet. Page also visited Sicily and contemplated buying the old villa where Crowley established his ‘Abbey of Thelema’ in the 1920s.

In the early 1970s Page opened an occult bookshop in Kensington called The Equinox. It was done out in a futuristic style with glass bookshelves and display cabinets and chrome steel pillars. Under its auspices, Page published a facsimile of Crowley’s 1904 edition of the medieval grimoire Goetia.

Kenneth Anger approached Jimmy Page and asked him to provide a soundtrack for his ongoing film project Lucifer Rising. Unfortunately, the two men fell out when Page only managed to produce 23 minutes of music and Anger wanted 28 minutes. The filmmaker accused Page of being a mere dabbler in the occult and a drug addict so out of his mind he could not finish the film score. However, in 1976 Page lent Anger the basement of his London house for film editing purposes. Again, the two men did not see eye to eye and Page allegedly cursed the filmmaker. Page later branded the incident as “silly and pathetic” and said he still respected Anger as an occultist.

There has been a lot of debate about whether Jimmy Page ever belonged to one of the modern versions of Crowley’s magical group the OTO (Ordo Templis Orientis or Order of the Eastern Temple). In fact, the jury seems to be out on whether Page is an actual magical practitioner at all. In this respect New Musical Express journalist Nick Kent dismisses rumours the guitarist spends his time with “his head in a cowl ritually slaughtering various species of livestock.” Kent instead says from his experience Page is “just another seeker after esoteric knowledge, a collector of dusty old books, and committed student of the ‘magical’ information that was supposedly contained in their yellowed pages.”

Although Jimmy Page’s interest in Crowley and the occult is well known, his Led Zeppelin colleague Robert Plant also has esoteric interests. These manifest in a study of folklore, Norse and Germanic mythology, and reading ‘sword and sorcery’ novels. Plant spent most of his life living on the Welsh Border and in an interview with the rock music magazine Kerrang! he said he often visited the Black Mountains in South Wales. There he rediscovered his roots in the local Celtic culture. Using an ordnance survey map, he wandered the hills visiting Bronze Age sites and places where the Welsh had battled with the Saxons.

David Bowie

Another famous rock star who openly admits an interest in the occult, magic and Crowley is David Bowie (born David Robert Jones). In the 1970s he says he studied the Kabbalah and “Crowleyism” and more recently became interested in Gnosticism. On a practical level the singer used Tarot cards and a crystal ball for divination, an ouija board to contact spirits, and performed magical rituals for exorcism and psychic protection. His early album Hunky-Dory features a song called ‘Quicksand’ that references both Crowley and the Victorian magical group Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

According to David Bowie’s wife Angie in her autobiography, her husband’s interest in the occult was due to his desire to outdo Jimmy Page. Allegedly, he saw the Led Zeppelin guitarist as a magical rival. Bowie eventually decided, possibly because of Page’s interest in him, that Crowley and his works were “small shit.” For that reason he began studying Tibetan magic which he claimed was far more powerful than anything the Great Beast or Page had ever done.

In an interview with New Musical Express (February 1997) David Bowie admits he had been into “old fashioned magic” in the 1970s, and said he always believed Crowley was a charlatan. He reveals that Arthur Edward Waite, a member of the Order of the Golden Dawn, and the Welsh-born occultist Dion Fortune, author of Psychic Self-Defence, have been important to him. In fact, Bowie used Fortune’s book extensively when he believed he was under psychic attack. Talking of a house he rented in Los Angeles in 1975, Bowie said he decorated it with ancient Egyptian artefacts. This was because, “I had this more than passing interest in Egyptian mysticism and the Kabbalah…” (Stage Fascination: David Bowie the Definite Story by David Buckley, 235).

Angie Bowie says the musician was heavily involved with occult activities in 1975-76. This coincides with a period when he used cocaine and she believed this made him paranoid. Apparently, Bowie stored bottles of his own urine in the fridge and carefully disposed of his nail and hair clippings. This was in case magical practitioners obtained these personal items in order to cast spells on him. He also set up an altar in his sitting room with black candles on it, painted occult symbols on the walls, and performed magical banishing rituals for protection. Angie Bowie once witnessed him exorcise a swimming pool he believed was haunted.

When the couple were viewing properties to rent or buy in Hollywood they came across an old house with a pentagram of five-pointed star painted on the floor. Bowie freaked out and said he could not live there as the building had been used for black magic rites. One day he phoned his wife and told her witches were trying to steal his semen. Allegedly they wanted to create a test-tube baby and then sacrifice it in a satanic rite. It turned out the ‘witches’ were just some innocent groupies he met in a bar.

At this difficult point in his life Bowie also flirted with neo-Nazism. He explained in an interview with the British rock music journalist Tony Parsons in 1993 that this was only because he was fascinated by the use of occult symbols like the swastika by the original Nazi Party in Germany. He was interested in their quest for the Holy Grail because he was also searching for its meaning (Stage Fascination: David Bowie the Definite Story by David Buckley, 235-236). Bowie once said that it might be a good idea to have a fascist dictatorship in Britain, although he later denied he was serious and claimed it was a joke.

Black Sabbath & Heavy Metal

Partly as a reaction to the hippy ‘flower power’ and ‘peace and love’ movement of the late Sixties, heavy metal bands began to appear using violent satanic imagery and playing loud over-amplified rock music. Groups such as Warlock, Saxon, Venom, Motley Crue, W.A.S.P., Slayer, Iron Maiden, Incubus and Bathory put out albums with covers decorated with human skulls, pentagrams, hooded figures, gravestones, goat-headed demons and vampires. One of the most famous and pioneering heavy metal bands Black Sabbath came out of Birmingham in the industrial Midlands of England in 1969. They combined heavy guitar riffs with satanic inspired lyrics and an obsession with the gothic dark side that soon gave them a dedicated, if rather odd, fan base.

The band’s distinctive name was taken from an old horror movie starring English actor Boris Karloff, famous for his movie interpretation of Dr. Frankenstien’s monster. Originally, Black Sabbath started out as a jazz-blues band until they became influenced by the ‘black magic’ novels of the thriller writer Dennis Wheatley and books by Aleister Crowley. Their leader ‘Geezer’ Butler was lent a 16th century grimoire or book of magic. Its contents so freaked him out that he locked it in a cupboard before going to bed. During the night he had a spectral visitation from a dark shadowy figure who stood at the end of his bed. In the morning when Butler opened the cupboard the grimoire had vanished and it was never seen again.

Butler claims the band was invited to play a gig at a Witches Sabbath at Stonehenge, which sounds like something out of a Dennis Wheatley novel. When the boys refused the chief “warlock” of the coven ritually cursed the band. Geezer says he consulted a “white witch” to get the curse lifted and was told the band had to wear crosses to ward off the evil forces directed at them. Apparently, lead singer Ozzy Osbourne’s father, who was a bit of a handyman, made the crosses for each of the band members to wear.

Ozzy Osbourne always denies he was seriously into the occult, although he did have his Tarot cards read – twice. Famously he said the only evil spirits that interest him are whisky, gin and vodka! He describes the strange people attracted to the band, who habitually wear white face make-up and black hooded robes, as “freaks.” Ozzy says the only good thing about all the satanic stuff is it gave the band free publicity increasing their record sales and bank accounts.

Some of the heavy metal bands took their interest in witchcraft and magic more seriously. One of these, for a while, was Black Widow who played a mixture of progressive rock and folk music and used demonic imagery in their act based on serious research. In 1968 the group’s manager approached Maxine and Alex Sanders, the so-called ‘King and Queen of the Witches’. He wanted to know if the couple could recommend a nubile young witch with dancing skills to take part in their new stage act. This featured a magician played by one of the band’s members conjuring up a demon who was once an ancient goddess called Ashtaroth.

Several professional dancers auditioned for the part of the demon-goddess. Each one suffered fainting fits during rehearsals and felt they were being possessed by an evil spirit. In desperation the band wanted to hire a real witch who would not be fazed by the magical goings-on. Black Widow’s manager said the Sanders were happy to help and he described them as “clever business people” only interested in making money in any way they could.

A member of the Sanders’ coven volunteered for the role and the rehearsals were successful. Unfortunately, on the day of the first performance at the Lyceum Theatre in London, she fell ill. Alex Sanders volunteered his wife and the high priestess of the coven Maxine as a suitable stand-in. When the lead singer of Black Widow playing the sorcerer invoked the demon-goddess and accidentally stepped out of the protective magical circle, she was supposed to attack him. In her autobiography Maxine Sanders says the singer complained afterwards about the bruises he suffered from the physical assault by the ‘Queen of the Witches’.

Danny Carey

Another more contemporary band called Tool and its lead singer Danny Carey are well known for their interest in all things magical. Carey collects rare limited edition publications by such modern occult practitioners as Crowley, Kenneth Grant, Austin Osman Spare and Andrew D. Chumbley. During their recordings of albums, Tool use magical banishing rituals to get rid of unwelcome influences left in the studio by previous performers. They have also been known to employ talismans and occult sigils used by the Elizabethan magician and astrologer Dr. John Dee in their gigs. During a South American tour, local Christian workers refused to handle the band’s equipment because it was “satanic.”

The 1990s saw a sinister link established between rock music and Satanism with the rise of the so-called ‘black metal’ or ‘death metal’ groups. These new bands were committed to an anti-Christian philosophy of anarchism, nihilism, violence and an obsession with death that made Black Sabbath stage appearances look like a vicar’s tea party. Possibly the most dramatic and violent manifestation of this new trend was in Scandinavia. A new cultural trend united satanic beliefs with atavistic forms of neo-paganism and extreme nationalist right-wing politics promoting racism and white supremacy. This deadly combination was to lead to arson and murder.

In 1992 an ancient wooden stave church was burnt down in a firebomb attack. Rumours began circulating that hard-core black metal fans were responsible for the outrage. It was alleged they were pagan Viking revivalists who expressed neo-Nazi views. Further church burnings and graveyard desecrations took place followed by murders involving rival groups of black metal fans and biker gangs. Media reports said that self-styled teenage satanists saw neo-Nazism and rock music as cultural stepping stones to a revival of Aryan-based paganism. Because the historic Christian churches were built on the site of pagan temples, they had to be destroyed before the heathen ‘old religion’ could be established again.

Today the number of rock bands using satanic and occult imagery is increasing. The new ‘high priest’ of the Church of Satan in the USA, Boyd Rice, is himself a musician. Critics have dubbed his musical output as “sonic terrorism as an art form.” Strangely enough, his satanic master, Anton LaVey, who found the Church of Satan in the 1960s, preferred Gershwin and Cole Porter with his bedtime cocoa.

It seems certain that in the future wherever and however rock music is played, there will always be those who claim, quite literally, the Devil has the best tunes.


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Backstage Passes: Life on the Wild Side with David Bowie by Angie Bowie and Patrick Carr, Orion, 1993
Stage Fascination: David Bowie the Definite Story by David Buckley, Virgin Books, 1999
Robert Plant: Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page & the Solo Years by Neil Daniels, Independent Music Press, 2008
The Lives of John Lennon and the Beatles by Hunter Davies, McGraw Hill Books USA, 1985
Hammer of the Gods: Led Zeppelin Unauthorised by Stephen Davies, Pan Books, 1995
The Book of the Beast by Timothy D’Arch-Smith, Mandrake Press 2010
Faithfull by Marianne Faithfull with David Datton, Michael Joseph, 1994
No One Gets Out of Here Alive: Jim Morrison and the Doors by Danny Hopkins and Sugarman, Warner Books USA, 1980
Apathy for the Devil: A 1970’s Memoir by Nick Kent, Faber and Faber Limited, 2010
I Am Ozzy by Ozzie Osbourne with Chris Agnes, Sphere, 2009
Firechild: The Life and Magic of Maxine Sanders ‘Witch Queen’ by Maxine Sanders, Mandrake Press, 2008
Bowie: Loving the Alien by Christopher Sandford, Little, Brown and Company, 1996
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MICHAEL HOWARD became interested in the connections between rock music and the occult while working for a major record company in London in the 1970s. He is the author of Secret Societies (Destiny Books, 2009) and Modern Wicca: from Gerald Gardner to the Present (Llewellyn, USA 2010). He can be contacted by email at

The above article appeared in New Dawn No. 121 (July-August 2010).. ... -the-devil

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by ICfreely » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:36 pm


Your mention of ‘Conspiracy of Silence’ reminded me of a song by a socially conscious rapper named Paris. I feel compelled to post it because it’s almost as if you subconsciously willed it. Enjoy! :) ;)

Paris - Conspiracy Of Silence
Uploaded on Sep 11, 2011 [Yeah Buddy!]

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Sorry I couldn’t find the lyrics. Remember, if you don’t like the song, then you only have yourself to blame! :P

I did manage to find the lyrics for Fleshgod Apocalypse’s Conspiracy of Silence:

Fleshgod Apocalypse - Conspiracy Of Silence

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You know what you hide behind the veil of terror
bare your inner scum denied by anguish for their lowest dreadful deeds!
Your cowardice will lead you ti the shameful fate!
Victims of the metastatic tum of your life!

Convict, even if you leave no trace,
confined by your mentors in their grievous catatonic prison!
Walking inert towards the darkest days!
Unconscious when you'll fail, when you'll...

Fail! Shame of humans!
Repulsive servants without pride, without honour!
Shame! Failure of human kind, as your omission is your blame!

Naked in front of my eyes, conspiracy of silence can't be concealed, confess
what you hide!
You must spit all the cancers you've inside, you can't declare, as you can't
Short the way to demise, damaging everyone you shake off all your fright!
But this strikes before you've realized, forever condemned!

Blind! When there's something you should see!
Deaf! When there's something you should hear, or feel!
You, dumb! When there's something you should scream,
your morality is dead as your will!

A faithful traitor begging those who can't forgive!
Victims of the metastatic tumor of your life!

Self annihilations of your thoughts,
unbound all your terror, in their immense temples of corruption!
Your servile actions will destroy you all
Lay down now, feel all your senses fell away from you!
Blown away, lost in the serpentine of pain!

Down! Down! Down! Under the weight of crime!
Torn to pieces by guilt and bane, inadmissible terminal sickness of our race!
Race! Race! Race! Without any aim!
Inveracity runs through your veins, existence is vain!

All the veils are broken by an evident truth, fools those who believed, in spurious ignorance creatress of your doom!

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by jumpy64 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:04 pm

Ciao IC!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't make out the lyrics of the first song, not even with a headphone. But I'm sure it's a certified rap song, because it contains essential keywords like "nigga", "bitch" and "MF", so we're all set, I guess ;)

The lyrics of the second song are interesting and to the point, because they seem to refer to Italian Mafia, since Fleshgod Apocalypse are Italian and their EP is titled "MAFIA".

Otherwise, I would have interpreted them as referring to our "perps", and maybe they do refer to them too.

BTW, do you know that, according to some scholars, the word Mafia is actually an acronym for "Mazzini Autorizza Furti Incendi Avvelenamenti", i.e. Mazzini authorizes theft, arson and poisoning?

Therefore, since Giuseppe Mazzini was a Jew, probably even the Italian version of Mafia is something we owe to our
Semitic troublemakers.

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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Unread post by ICfreely » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:44 pm

Oh well, Jumpy. I think you have more in common with Paris than you think.

Now, if you don’t like the following song, then I say good day, Sir!

Rage Against the Machine - Know Your Enemy

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Yeah, we're comin' back then with another bombtrack
Think ya know what it's all about
Hey yo, so check this out
Know your enemy!
Come on!

Born with insight and a raised fist
A witness to the slit wrist, that's with
As we move into '92
Still in a room without a view
Ya got to know
Ya got to know
That when I say go, go, go
Amp up and amplify
I'm a brother with a furious mind
Action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in

Something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against 'em
Fist in ya face, in the place
And I'll drop the style clearly
Know your enemy...Know your enemy!

Hey yo, and dick with this uggh!
Word is born
Fight the war, fuck the norm
Now I got no patience
So sick of complacence
With the D the E the F the I the A the N the see the E
Mind of a revolutionary
So clear the lane
The finger to the land of the chains
What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy?

Now something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against 'em

Now action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in

I've got no patience now
So sick of complacence now
I've got no patience now
So sick of complacence now
Sick of sick of sick of sick of you
Time has come to pay
Know your enemy!

Come on!
Yes I know my enemies
They're the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are American dreams

P.S. If I'm not mistaken, Mazzini's mob is also connected to the Vatican via the Propoganda2 Lodge.

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