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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby ICfreely on Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:25 pm

jumpy64 wrote:First of all, it's important that you dare to call it a "war", because I think that's what it is too. But do you see it currently directed against all nations in the same way and to the same degree of intensity?


Isn't it obvious? The weapon used against the west is eastern refugees and the weapon used against the east is traditional Boeing bombs!
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby jumpy64 on Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:35 pm

simonshack wrote:Can't wait for it, Jumpy. As a firm believer that diversity is indeed the spice of life, I will be all ears. :)

Btw, I'm not someone you could really call "politically correct" - or someone who proffers platitudes. So, yes - I stand offended ! :lol:


You know I meant no disrespect, Simon (and in fact you laugh about it). And I'm glad you've entered this debate, also because - no disrespect meant here either - I don't think you're immune to "political correctness" concerning this "multicultural psyop".

Yes, to me multiculturalism is a psyop, Simon. And a very effective one apparently, if even a master (or actually The Master) at discovering and exposing psyops like yourself seems to be falling for it. It seems to me, of course. I may be wrong, but please let me make my points, will you?

simonshack wrote:Moreover - and just to make my position crystal clear - I don't think "Whites" (as you spell them, with an all-caps "W") are any better than any race roaming this world. So let's please stop that "White talk" on this forum of mine. Thanks.

Of course, the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan is an entirely different matter - and I do not support it in any way. It's a divide-and-conquer plan devised by a bunch of (mostly jewish) psychopaths who really think they are smart in making us all argue among ourselves. At this particular moment in time, they seem to be successful in their endeavors - what with their fake terror platitudes which, most unfortunately, MOST people buy into. Something needs to be done to wake up people (of ALL races) to their machinations. I think this is what we're trying to do here at Cluesforum - but we really don't need to use the "White race pride" card to get our message through.


I have already admitted that using the “White race pride” card, as I did at a certain point of the “Open Conspiracy” thread, was a failure. But I don’t think I’m doing it here. And anyway, I respect all cultures, and that’s why I’m calling them all with capital first letters (I don’t write only White, as you seem to point out, but also Black, Muslim, and even Jewish, unless I forget sometimes, of course).

So I don’t understand what you mean by “White talk”. Are you referring to the fact that I think that multiculturalism is a psyop aimed primarily against White people in White societies?

I stressed this point here after Apache pointed out facts based both on her research and on her direct experience. Her research pointed to sex gangs led by Pakistanis, Somalis, Iraqis and South Asians who exploited white women and children in a European state like England, and to state agencies taking no action against obvious abuse they were “terrified of accusation of racism” and “desperate not to undermine the official creed of cultural diversity”. The official creed, man! Doesn’t this remind you of other official creed-based psyops like Islamic terror? How can you be so aware and radically critical of one official creed and apparently embrace this other one?

And anyway, you say you oppose the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan which, as you described it when you reopened the “Open Conspiracy” thread, “is about killing diversity (i.e. wiping out ALL existing 'colors' ... but one) and turn humanity into a grey, monolithic broth of 'human cattle' - more easily 'herdable' by the powers that be”. And you say it is not about “genociding the White race”, but I think you’re not considering the fact that killing people directly is not the only form of genocide.

As you can read at http://whitegenocideproject.com/about-white-genocide/

Moving millions of non-White immigrants into traditionally White countries over a period of years. This alone is not genocide, but the next step makes it a part of genocide.

▪ Legally chasing down and forcing White areas to accept “diversity“. This is known as “Forced Assimilation“.

A combination of mass immigration (of different groups of people) plus forced assimilation would qualify as genocide, as defined by Article II, part (C) of the United Nations Genocide Conventions:

“Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.”


Anyway, you seem to be wanting to preserve “all existing colors”, but I don’t understand how you would go about doing that. It seems to me that the only way to preserve all colors is having different environments for different colors to thrive in. Don’t you realize that it’s really through “multiculturalism” as a form of “demographic engineering” (thanks again, Painterman), that the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan is being implemented? I’m not a painter, but isn’t grey the color you obtain when mixing all the colors together in the same palette?

By the same token, I defined your “diversity is the spice of life” motto a platitude when referred to a “multicultural” context. Because yes, diversity is the spice of life, and it’s important to preserve it. But how is it really preserved? Actually in the same way as different colors are preserved.

Why don’t we look at how Mother Nature does it? Not by throwing all the different existing plants and animal species in the same environment, I’m afraid, but on the contrary by having different groups of plants and animals live and thrive in different environments. Isn’t this a fact? And wouldn’t this be ideal for humans too? We can’t always have the ideal of course, especially at the point we are now, but why can’t we even strive for the best possible approximation to it? And why, on the contrary, are we being forced to go against Nature on such a massive scale?

Anyway, back to Apache’s direct experience (I keep quoting her because she’s the only one I’ve seen here sharing honestly the true details of her “multicultural” experience, and it seems to me that at least some people here, including you Simon, have not really listened to her) attests to all-White schools becoming all-Muslims, to White children who can’t play in off-limits local parks if they don’t want to be attacked by British Pakistani youths, to Whites driven out of property ownership in entire ghettoized areas with “No Whites Allowed” painted on the walls, and to local White girls raped by gangs of Asian men, while White British man who attempt to court British Pakistani girls get beaten up. All examples not of integration, I’m afraid, but of White genocide, in the above specified sense.

So Apache is talking from her own direct experience of a pretty advanced “multicultural” environment. Can you, Simon, and everybody else here respect that? I do. You and me, to be honest, we live in nearby areas and we certainly don’t have the same kind of experience (not yet, at least). My neighbors are all White people, and yours are too, as far as I know, but please correct me if I’m wrong.

I’ve been at a few of your parties in the last three years, and I’ve met a lot of nice and interesting people. Some of them were foreigners, but I don’t remember seeing other than white faces around you. Not even in your historical party for the tenth anniversary of 9/11 at your house: all Italian White guests, judging from what I remember of the pictures you posted on this site. The only exception I know of indirectly is Gopi, a fellow Indian member of this forum who lives in the U.S. and came to see you a while ago, and there may even be a few others I don’t know about, but that’s what they seem to be anyway: exceptions to the largely predominant “White rule”.

And then I know that you traveled, and even lived for a while, in different places, including Africa, but you’ve been living mostly in Italy, as far as I know, and not in a multicultural environment even remotely comparable to the one Apache is living in. And anyway, how many Islamic or Asian or African friends do you currently hang out with, for example?

I have none, and not because I don’t want to. The only sizeable foreign community around where I live is an Indian community. And why can I call it a community? Because most of these Indians have grouped together in the same area, as it’s the natural thing to do for everybody of any race. Contrary to what the “multicultural agents” would want us to believe, people are usually attracted to other similar people they consider as belonging to their own group. And this especially and demonstrably applies to people who belong to groups with a strongly rooted “ingroup-outgroup” mentality, as Arabs, Jews, Asians and other primarily non-Western groups.

So now this Indian community near where I live has all Indian shops in place of the ones originally owned by local people. I go there sometimes, and I’ve never seen Indians mix with Italians. They’re two totally separated groups. Actually, I’ve never even heard Indian people speak Italian, except one I saw working in an Italian store once, and he could communicate only on a very basic level.

And I don’t think this is Italians’ fault. Italians are amongst the nicest and best inclined toward foreigners people you could imagine. But this other people who came here don’t want to integrate. I suspect they don’t even know what “integration” means, and don’t even care. Most of them were forced to come here by worsening economic or living conditions, and so they just tried to recreate a “Little India” in Italy. And the same can be said of the Chinese and of other ethnic communities in my region and in others. It’s certainly not as bad as in the area where Apache lives, but I’m afraid we’re much more likely getting there than to the “multicultural Utopia” that our corrupt and treacherous rulers would want us to believe in.

One more thing: you rightly say that this forum is yours. You made it, it’s built mainly on your own groundbreaking research. You have every right to run it every way you want. But why can’t the same be said of European countries nowadays? Why are the people who built these countries not allowed not only to run them, but even to live in them without having to submit to "guests" who often disrespect and damage them and their environment?

But if multiculturalism is the way to go, as you seem to think, why don’t you, Simon, apply your multicultural views to your own “country”, i.e.your website? Diversity in Cluesforum can’t be represented by people of different skin colors and physical traits, because we don’t know or care what race different members belong to. Diversity here can only be represented by different points of view. And you’ve said that “white talk” (whatever that means, but I assume “White nationalist” talk is what you mean) is to be stopped here. I wonder why. This is something that seems to fit the typical multicultural propaganda of a society in which all religious and cultural points of view are allowed, but not those against multiculturalism, especially from a White perspective. Why is this form of lopsided diversity imposed on us?

Waiting for your answer, I’ll give you mine: because it suits the interests of the group of people who’s controlling us through various means, including, at this stage, this gigantic “multicultural” psyop.

simonshack wrote:The "Nutwork" itself, as I've coined the bunch of psychopaths 'running' this world, is multicultural. Just read our forum member ICfreely's recent posts, to understand that even 'elitist' Iranians are part of the ongoing, "dumbing-down-scheme" of this planet's population.

Having said that, it is clear as day that jewish moguls - what with their worldwide monopoly of fake news organizations - are at the very top of the aforementioned dumbing-down scheme. We (well, most people in this world that is) are currently all "mental slaves" of their propaganda power. However, I honestly don't think it will last for much longer - seeing how dumbly they are running it.


Well, it seems to me that, if the Jewish role is really “clear as day” here, as you say, it’s mainly thanks to the fact that I have drawn CF members’ attention to it with the “Open Conspiracy” thread. It didn’t seem as clear before…

I’m saying this not because I want some credit, but only to point out the fact that, as I saw the Jewish role before others here (or at least before others l found the courage to denounce it), maybe I’m also seeing and/or denouncing this multicultural psyop before others… I hope you will consider at least this possibility, however remote it may seem to you now.

And as I said, it could be really the most powerful psyop the “perps” have come up with so far, if even you, of all people, are falling for it…

Again, Simon, I mean no disrespect. You know how much I hold you in high esteem as one of the most important researchers of this Century, as I’ve told you personally more than once, and not to kiss your ass.

I only want to respectfully ask you to take off your “multicultural glasses”, if you please, and try and see this multicultural ruse for the demographic engineering psyop that I and hopefully others (like Apache and Painterman, it seems) are trying to expose with facts and sound reasoning. I even hope that, after doing this, you will find and demonstrate that things are not the way I’m seeing them. I’m not seeing a nice picture here, so I’d really love to be proven wrong. But proven with facts and/or sound reasoning, please, not with wishful thinking.
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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Postby sublimity on Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:30 am

What's with the recent onslaught of noise that has nothing to do with 'exposing truth'? All you're doing is pushing down important posts.
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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Postby ICfreely on Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:09 am

Attain administrator/moderator status from Simon then delete and/or derail my objectionable posts. Simples! :)
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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Postby sublimity on Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:38 am

ICfreely wrote:Attain administrator/moderator status from Simon then delete and/or derail my objectionable posts. Simples! :)


Yeah, or just stop spamming the forum with bullshit. Simpler.
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Re: Songs that Expose Truth

Postby ICfreely on Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:42 am

Great comeback. You really put me in my place! :rolleyes: :)
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby Critical Mass on Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:13 am

jumpy64 wrote:Well, it seems to me that, if the Jewish role is really “clear as day” here, as you say, it’s mainly thanks to the fact that I have drawn CF members’ attention to it with the “Open Conspiracy” thread. It didn’t seem as clear before.

We have a holohoax thread, a 22 page 'Israel & Zionism' thread and a 'Nuke Hoax' thread (which is a very 'Jewish' topic once you look into it). In addition there are many posts dotted about the forum concerning our JPM lunatics (Here's one from Noncahapito, one from Hoi & one from Simon). All of these things are many years old.

Arguably the forum has done a poor job at maintaining a focus on the JPM (even assuming that is a particularly wise things to do anyway... Dancing Israeli's, for instance, seems to have been a quite clever distraction which has fooled a lot of people) but everyone here has always been well aware of such things.


Anyway, back to Apache’s direct experience (I keep quoting her because she’s the only one I’ve seen here sharing honestly the true details of her “multicultural” experience, and it seems to me that at least some people here, including you Simon, have not really listened to her)

I think we can all agree that Apache's experience is horrendous however the problem with such anecdotes is you can always find a counter example.

For instance for much of my life I have lived on the other side of the Pennines from Apache & I have never had an actual problem with Muslims (except, in my own head, when I believed that 'Muslims did 9/11')... quite the opposite in fact.

On the streets of Burnley, Preston, Manchester, Liverpool & Warrington I've personally found that Muslims are no threat whatsoever & have never tried to "kick my head in". Primarily because Muslims don't drink much... if at all.

I have been the victim of three violent assaults since I was 18... all were committed by groups of White men who had been drinking.

When I see a group of White men at night I invariably cross the street to avoid them. Meanwhile I don't even give it a second thought nowadays if the men are Asian (& presumably Muslim).

I've never seen a Muslim committing a serious crime... I've seen a bit of speeding at nights & selling of weed however those are certainly not 'Muslim only' crimes I can assure you.

I've also never seen a Muslim sexually assault a child or indeed anyone. Of course you can read about these things in the papers & I'm sure some of them happen... but I've not seen it. Or even know of anyone who has.

My father was attacked & robbed a few years back... attacker was white. The Newsagent round the corner got robbed a few years back. The owner was Indian & described the knife wielding robber as a white man. I saw some kids chucking fireworks at people last year... the kids were white etc.

So what can any neutral reader learn from such stories? Am I just 'lucky' or 'unlucky'? Does my experience now mean 'multiculturalism' works? Am I inadvertently promoting 'a psyop' because Brits can't handle their booze?


Perhaps we can start a new topic called "British drinking culture & street violence" or perhaps that topic would be a little out of place in a forum which is meant to be concentrating on exposing media fakery?

Hence my own growing concern (& seemingly Simon's too) of your latest topic of interest Jumpy. Has even a single item of media fakery been mentioned in this topic so far?
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby Painterman on Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:35 am

Hi, Jumpy.

What could be called the War on the Nations takes many forms and uses many weapons. Fortunately, there is always a public relations aspect in every campaign by the NWO (even if only on the subliminal, predictive programming level). And that's where they give themselves away, because the thinking public, represented especially by Cluesforum, is now smarter than the propaganda machines being sent against us.

We could also discuss a bigger picture: the war on the world's peoples (for which The War of the Worlds, by HG Wells, was predictive programming), because nationhood is only one of the native cultural expressions that the NWO would neutralize. Ultimately, all forms of social organization are to be abolished outright or transplanted to the technological settings of the technocracy (e.g. the internet). This would be the long-sought utopian merger of humanity and philosophy, also referred to as the creation of an artificial man.

Even our currently corrupt nation states are a compromise with, and a potentially powerful tool for, the public interest. Yet the public interest has been declared obsolete in the new age. Only the power of money is to reign - directly through a laughably named "free market", and indirectly through post-democratic government - when We the People have been reduced to demoralized social atoms without political relevance. Hence, for example, the "austerity" reforms being pushed hard in Europe, mostly by former employees and open agents of Goldman Sachs.

A similar fate is intended for the traditional family and other timeless components of society meant to disappear or be replaced with manufactured versions from the technocratic elite via the "feel-good" weapons of culture-creation (Hollywood, astroturf social media, pop culture garbage, counterculture garbage, etc.) - which have global distribution. One could even speculate that Islamic resistance to this Culture War wrecking ball resulted in the War on Terror wrecking ball as an escalation.

This of course is a vast subject. I have set forth at this website my understandings, based on the methods at my disposal, concerning the changes being imposed on humanity without its informed consent. I don't know who is prosecuting this war. Nor can I explain why they are doing so. I do however have a good idea of what they are trying to accomplish and how they are going about it, because these are directly observable in the public domain.

Well, Jumpy, it's rare to hear from someone who, to an extent at least, agrees that there is a war on the nations. If you have anything more to say about your views on this, especially about the nation state as a political institution under siege by the NWO, I'd be interested to read it.
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby ICfreely on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:01 am

To all the people who legitimately are concerned with their culture being attacked and are fighting to maintain their customs, values, ‘code of life’ or what have you, I say, more power to you! As far as I’m concerned you’re all fighting to maintain diversity! Having said that, the either ‘Huxley-Orwell super motherfucker state’ or ‘mass mini-state race wars’ polemic is quite tiring. Even if you (whoever you are) consider them (whoever they are) your enemies, doesn’t it make sense to know your enemy?
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby jumpy64 on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:18 am

Critical Mass wrote:Hence my own growing concern (& seemingly Simon's too) of your latest topic of interest Jumpy. Has even a single item of media fakery been mentioned in this topic so far?


Yes, two examples of media fakery have specifically been mentioned in the first post of this thread. Maybe you could try and read it. Or at least look at it, since one example is even reinforced with a picture.

Just a suggestion, you know...
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby Apache on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:26 am

kickstones wrote:There is also information that can be found in the public domain that security forces in the UK use pedophile rings for blackmail recruitment etc. It's not hard to imagine that these Asian sex abuse case were used for the similar purposes, such as recruitment for 'terror' groups etc.. and information and exposure suppressed under the ruse of national security.


True and well worth pointing out. However, the rape gangs referred to on Wiki are not paedophile rings, they are prostitution rings. They are paedophiles in the legal sense but the girls are not usually younger than 12 and photos of them aren't passed to other child rapists (in fact photos of them are allegedly used to blackmail the girls into prostitution).

ICFreely wrote:Speaking of rape & pillage, there have been many British soldiers & civilians who have committed crimes in Iran at the expense of Iranian civilians with diplomatic immunity. I don’t think that reflects the overall nature of British people though.


I don't think that the mass rape of German women by the Red Army at the end of WW2 reflected the overall nature of Russians and neither do I think that the mass rape and prostitution of white girls in the UK reflects the overall nature of British Pakistani men. Gang rape by soldiers is certainly an historical fact. Gang rape by civilians? I don't know, I'd need historical evidence for that as I was under the impression that the vast majority of civilian on civilian rape was undertaken by loners. A friend of mine was raped by 5 white men, so I am not making out that all gang rape is undertaken by British Pakistani men or that civilian gang rape never occurs, only that it's rare, usually committed by loners and highlights the question: why was the British Pakistani gangs prostituting out of white girls for sex initially ignored by the media and then when they were forced to write about the issue why was "fear of being called a racist" used to explain lack of action?

Just to make clear, what I posted was in connection to the media and how the discourse about it has been controlled by them since the cases were first highlighted. There was silence and then there was a lot of babble and to this day nothing much has been done to stop the prostitution rings, other than token prosecution cases, where the vast majority of the 'punters' have never been prosecuted. It is the mainstream media that highlights the "race" issue in these cases as can clearly be seen in the Wiki entries on them and the way the UK newspapers reported on it - which is why I pointed those sections out. When white british soldiers mass rape Iraqi and Afghani women the topic of race is not raised, even if the topic is raised at all (which it mainly isn't).

I will re-quote myself just to make my position on this clear:

stupid white girls are attracted to British Pakistani men for their money, usually becoming their mistresses, while wifey sits at home spurting out 5 or more kids.


there are perfectly nice, polite British Pakistanis who are appalled by all the above


Critical Mass wrote:I've never seen a Muslim committing a serious crime... I've seen a bit of speeding at nights & selling of weed however those are certainly not 'Muslim only' crimes I can assure you. I've also never seen a Muslim sexually assault a child or indeed anyone. Of course you can read about these things in the papers on a daily basis & I'm sure some of them happen... but I've not seen it. Or even know of anyone who has.


Are those who commit serious crimes in the British Pakistani community Muslims (ie followers of Islam)? Or is that simply another label criminals can hide behind and pretend to be something they are not? Isn't it possible to take your words and insert other ethnic/religious groups instead of 'Muslim'?

What has not been addressed here is what I wrote at the beginning of my post:

The following has been going on since the 1990s and the media only reported on it when they were forced to.


Critical Mass wrote:Has even a single item of media fakery been mentioned in this topic so far?


Has the media faked the vast majority of these cases? Are they overblown? Is part of it true, but a lot of it not true? Were those men really Muslims? Did they attend Mosque? Is it simply another part of the anti-Islam/pro-Islam, confuse the hell out of everybody, narrative constantly pushed by the fakers?
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby ICfreely on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:39 am

Apache wrote:Gang rape by soldiers is certainly an historical fact. Gang rape by civilians? I don't know, I'd need historical evidence for that as I was under the impression that the vast majority of civilian on civilian rape was undertaken by loners.


Civilian gang rape, while rare, is nothing new. What strikes me is the number of gang rape stories (U.K., India, U.S., etc.) the media has been gang raping us with of late. I also remember all the talk of the media supposedly staying quiet about a breakthrough 'wonder drug' the CDC was supposedly not releasing because Reagan and the Republicans wanted to kill off the gays.
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby ICfreely on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:58 am

I'd like to make another point.

Every society (that I know of) abhors rape. Even hardened criminals and killers despise rapists and chomos. The concept of prevalent gang rapes is similar to the serial killers of yesteryear. It frightens people to the core. They seem to be constantly keeping people paranoid & afraid of one another. I'm not wearing rosy pro-multicultural glasses. I've seen plenty. Your questions are valid & deserve to be addressed, Apache.
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby Critical Mass on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:01 pm

jumpy64 wrote:
Critical Mass wrote:Hence my own growing concern (& seemingly Simon's too) of your latest topic of interest Jumpy. Has even a single item of media fakery been mentioned in this topic so far?


Yes, two examples of media fakery have specifically been mentioned in the first post of this thread. Maybe you could try and read it. Or at least look at it, since one example is even reinforced with a picture.

Just a suggestion, you know...

Well I should have clarified... new item of media fakery because we already know those two events were fake as anyone reading the relevant threads can quickly determine.

Other than that (brief) mention of media fakery it has been all anecdotes, stories & opinions since.

Additionally does it not seem, I don't know, a little distasteful complaining about "White genocide" whilst 'our' own governments (which are paid for & supported, fanatically so in many cases*, primarily by those white people & whose militaries consist primarily of white soldiers & pilots) have admitted to killing over 100,000 'brown civilians' since the 9/11 show (although death tolls range from the many hundreds of thousands to four million)?

Now, as the countries we keep attacking all have much younger populations than our own ageing societies, that's an awful lot of dead children no matter which way you slice it.

I think a sense of perspective is in order.



* Even to this day most 'Whites' find the idea that a Government could tell a lie with a fake photo or film to be utterly inconceivable.
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Re: The Multicultural Agenda in the Media & Media Fakery

Postby ICfreely on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:05 pm

I should make one more clarification. The brainwashed-by-Hollywood Iranian kids dream of living the 'good life' they perceive American kids to be living in their own country! They just happen to have a predilection for Anglo-American pop culture. They've been thoroughly "Disnyfied."

Also, Iran currently hosts over a million refugees of its own & has pretty much done so throughout its history (I'm not suggesting other nations should do the same, especially now!). Iran is neither a beggar nor a 'third world' (whatever the fuck that means) country. It's rich in land, resources and man/brain power. Furthermore, its diverse population has been a work in progress for millennia. It's a 'well cooked' melting pot - seated at the crossroads between Europe, East Asia and Africa. They're forcing the Iranian model onto the whole world. :wacko: They're bound to fail. I just can't believe more people can't see through this charade.

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