hoi.polloi » March 4th, 2018, 11:49 am wrote:PianoRacer wrote:The war is over - we lost it hundreds if not thousands of years ago. All we can do now is speak the truth, hope that there are still others out there who want to hear it, and remind those who control humanity that what they are doing is immoral and ultimately self-defeating. Wealth and power achieved by means of violence and duplicity are bitter fruits and will never satiate their hunger for more. They can never have the treasure that we possess - a life lived honorably and a clean conscience when we shuffle off this mortal coil. Personally, I wouldn't trade those things for all the money and power in the world.
I agree with the latter part, but the war is definitely not over from their perspective. It would be naive of us to assume this, and unimaginative to assume nothing can be done. It is also untrue that they "bred out" resistance although that's an imaginative (if Darwinian) interpretation of what has actually been taking place and still is.
Hoi,
I agree with you my friend. If the “war” were over, mankind wouldn't remain under the constant digital bombardment of mass media and contrived “dialogue” that effectively sedates (or worse, cripples) the otherwise imaginative and creative mind.
Perhaps one may argue that this “bombardment” is just a method to maintain the status quo. And adjustments are made from time to time as humanity is observed.
But nevertheless, if independent thinkers had been “bred out of existence”, then this forum wouldn’t exist.
Moreover, I submit that there are more people out there who are skeptical of their governments and media toilets/outlets than we may think. A lot of them have simply calculated that the social and/or economic price of “speaking up” is too much to pay for a result that is not tangible/identifiable, let alone certain. So they remain silent. It’s a fear that is very real, and one that I am sympathetic to.
hoi.polloi » March 4th, 2018, 11:49 am wrote:
Sorry but I disagree with some of the blasé attitude (where it's not about a sense of inner peace, which of course I agree with).
Where do we go from here? We keep doing what we're doing. But more and better and so on.
They are no longer capable of or even interested in overthrowing their masters, who have done this to them intentionally and systematically and who control nearly everything that they think and believe from the moment they are born.
Wrong for many.
One of the biggest reasons that people are so incapable of questioning what they are told and so hostile to those who do is because over the last thousand years or so most of the people who dared to do so were murdered and did not reproduce.
It's called terrorism and it's what governments do. Reproducing isn't the dilemma. DNA doesn't breed resistance. It's lack of education and the seduction of the attention of offspring into the arms of the military cult that runs States.
That is completely supported from what I’ve been able to observe in life. I will just note that the “lack of education” your refer to is probably not what most people think of when they hear the word “education”. But I don’t want to put words in your mouth.
From my perspective, we (I, along with my lovely and intelligent wife) have taken it upon ourselves to educate our children. We have dropped the word school almost completely, as the image of rectangular buildings with bells and whistles, loud speakers, and the constant shuffling of children from one place to another is hardly what we consider to be an ideal environment for an active learning mind to flourish in.
In fact, such environments serve largely to create “obedient soldiers”, notwithstanding the fact that I (along with undoubtedly many others on this forum) made it through that very system and have become the person I am today. But I do consider it to have been a complete rip-off , and I resent the deliberate programming that delayed my ability to develop critical thinking skills or to ask fundamental questions.
The best I can do right now is try to make sure my children don’t have to wait until their mid 30s to snap out of it. In fact, they won’t have anything to snap out of, since their minds have been able to flourish in the absence of trauma and the rigidity of a system that stunts such growth for a large percentage of children.
A person I love dearly recently asked my teenage daughter “so how do you know when you graduate?”
It was a sincere question, and nothing snarky intended. She quickly and confidently replied with no hesitation and said “I don’t intend to ever
really graduate. I want to learn for the rest of my life, so the idea of a graduation doesn’t seem useful to me at this point.”
She is incredibly composed and well spoken when people ask her questions about “home schooling”.
It’s funny how our replies to their common questions often leave them asking aloud why they place their children in schools.
So, for me, that’s where I am going from here. No wasting time on trolls, time wasters, or liars. I’m keeping my mind sharp, and tending to the people who will go on to perhaps answer some of the questions that have been discussed here.
Just as a side note, we recently decided to give our children permission to explore CF and any curiosities contained herein, and to bring a discussion (if they wish) to the table about something they found interesting.
That said, I do appreciate the balance around here which makes this possible for me to do with regard to my children. If this was an “open forum” then it would get trashed such that I wouldn’t let them near it.
At this point they are developing their own instincts for what kinds of sites and purported “information” sources should even be given consideration. I truly enjoy walking through the process with them. It’s going to be frustrating and maddening for people when they try to sell a pant load to my children. They are kind and know how to handle themselves very well in those situations (rare though they may be).