hoi.polloi wrote:
...let's make peace by being compassionate and peaceful in the face of psychopaths...
...let's listen to our supposed "enemy" the criminal psychopaths responsible for the media hoaxes...
...let's not figure out which people to arrest and execute, only a warmongering type would want that...
I am reminded of an interesting summary (perhaps it was by Dave McGowan) which went something like this:
"I don't know if Jesus existed or not, but the account of his supposed 'be loving and compassionate and peaceful towards wicked rulers, no matter how many people they enslave and kill, be weak sheep, never kill the wolves who are killing your family' stance seems like a very clever psy-op created by the wicked rulers themselves, a psy-op not just created with editing later by the council in AD 325, but rather a psy-op originally done by the wicked rulers using a "Jesus" actor (probably one of their own family to be sure) who spouted a bunch of well-planned pre-written lovely-sounding (but in reality: good only for predators, and very bad for victims) advice such as: turn the other cheek, pay your taxes, endure injustice now, be meek your whole life, be poor your whole life, then after you die you will finally have a nice life in heaven, just hang in there until you die, and don't try to create Justice here and now on Earth."
"Then, after the Jesus actor delivered his lovey don't-punch-back sermons, the wicked rulers simply faked the actor's death and all enjoyed more relaxed lifetimes with a greatly decreased chance of receiving any Justice/retribution/imprisonment/execution for their crimes, and since over the years this psy-op was well received, the wicked rulers' descendants have been enjoying that same wonderful low-chance-of-retribution-for-their-crimes benefit for over 2000 years now, all thanks to their "Jesus" actor psy-op."
"Yes, of course, limited-hangout style, the role model they created for us did throw a few strong words at the evil Jew pharisees and Roman rulers, and even knocked over a few businessmen's tables (gasp), but the takeaway is: this character convinces folks (for millennia to come) that one should love the criminal psychopathic usury slave-master killers forever, and passively turn the other cheek for them to smack you more forever. Jesus definitely did NOT convince folks to create a world with a relatively higher degree of justice, in which whenever injustice occurs the victims immediately physically revolt against the criminal psychopathic masters by identifying, finding, arresting, presenting evidence, imprisoning, and yes even executing, those rich rulers who enslave and kill for profit, for example: those rich rulers who murder millions of humans in wars just to receive millions of dollars, ahem, as the 9/11 hoaxers did."
Here are my thoughts about that "Jesus was probably a Psy-Op" idea: Yes, probably whoever put that idea out there was probably correct. For the majority of my life I was fooled by the "no-Justice, unconditional-love" vibe, by the Jesus Psy-Op, by the Laurel Canyon Hippie Music Psy-Op, by the Ram Dass Neem Karoli Psy-Op, and compounded by the loving (and lethargic) vibe I enjoy from Cannabis too, but let's get real for a minute:
If in the next minute you saw your child being killed by some money-hungry insatiably-greedy murderous thief, you should NOT lovingly compassionately peacefully turn the other cheek by offering the killer to also kill or enslave your wife too.
First off, if you were standing in the room and saw the murderer in the process of lunging at your child's throat with a knife you should of course instantly kill the killer, to prevent him from killing your child.
Secondly, even if you were a moment too late and he already killed your child, you should still instantly kill the killer, to prevent this proven killer from escaping and killing others, and to instill proper fear into the hearts of would-be money-hungry insatiably-greedy murderous thieves.
The more instant personal Justice there is in the world, by people not willing to be meek cheek-turning victims, the more the cowardly money-hungry insatiably-greedy murderous thieves fear such Justice and reduce their attempts at enslaving and murdering for profit.
Yes, of course the reduction might be slight, but the fact remains it is the fear-of-Justice stick which reduces the psychopaths' murder attempts, much more effectively than the love-for-all carrot which the Jesus story convinced us to respond with.
So here in the present-day reality we are discussing "mere hoaxers, who didn't actually kill anyone on 9/11" but let's remember the vital fact that these money-hungry insatiably-greedy murderous thieves DID kill millions of innocent humans in the wars which they absolutely knowingly started using their 9/11 hoax.
So what should one do if a family member was indeed killed by the 9/11 subsequent wars, wars knowingly caused by 100 rich powerful killers, killers who own judges and are thus confidently above-the-law, killers who "keep their hands clean by using henchmen" but who regardless planned deaths of millions of innocent men women and children for money?
These killers didn't "just hoax the deaths of 3000 fake humans on 9/11", they in cold blood planned and executed their grand war initiation to profit from the actual deaths of over 3 million actual humans (continuing everyday, while reading this post more innocents were just now killed for money by these rich psychopaths), all just for a cut of the WTC basement gold, a cut of the insurance money, a cut of the charity money, a cut of the couple trillion dollars of 'unaccounted for' CIA-stolen tax-payer money, a cut of the wartime-looting profits, a cut of the Defense-industry kickbacks, a cut of the Oil-industry kickbacks, a cut of the Israel-continuing kickbacks, a cut of the Banking-industry kickbacks (#1 highest war profiteers, due to loaning money to all parties involved and then, the ultimate goal, setting up the Federal Reserve style private fiat-printing-for-governments paper-for-gold scam in all losing countries, with only North Korea and Iran remaining to do this to, it seems), etc.
When I asked point blank "What should we do?" I thought a revolutionary member here would have the courage to write inspiring words to encourage some intelligent caring readers to take action to reduce future murders by creating Justice: like pushing for evidence, arrests, interrogations, assassinations, coups, or at the very least some kind of creative idea like hacking the worlds' richest perps hidden accounts and distributing their murderously obtained money equitably to the worlds' poorest victims. But the most revolutionary answer was uh, maybe walk around with some signs asking for the rulers to please start less wars in the future?
Look, some folks are useful-meek-idiots who have simply been fooled by the "love your enemy, even if he's a killer, and never kill the killers, love them and rehabilitate them, they only killed because they wanted money, because they lacked happiness, because they needed more love" psy-op which was successfully enacted 2000 years ago. The predatory richest killers LOVE the fact that over 2000 years this "love only, no Justice" programming has seeped deep into the heart of the majority of Christian-influenced American+European culture (regardless of whether one is a Christian or whether one strongly rejects religion, the fact remains that in general white culture has embraced these ultra-altruistic "love-your-neighbor-as-your-brother, use love to solve problems, don't commit revenge, don't do eye-for-an-eye, don't kill even killers" ideas) which they "the elite, the chosen ones" ruthlessly exploit by doing the exact opposite: total selfish killing for their own body to have ample luxurious resources and slaves cooking and cleaning for them and for their children and future descendents to have the same. Turning the other cheek is a meme which they have been encouraging the masses to practice for over 2000 years. Meanwhile the elite psychopaths instead are practicing daily the opposite Selfish Gene me-and-my-family-and-my-tribe-against-the-world technique.
And yes, shocking as it may sound, even if you have known them for decades, some folks are paid-deceptive-actors whose job is to forever push the vibe of "let's just talk forever, never identify who the top killers are, never seek physical Justice for the top killers, never even seek arrest of the top killers" loving-compassionate-peaceful turn-the-other-cheek, ESPECIALLY at places where intelligent caring minds meet who potentially might plan and incite and successfully enact real physical revolutionary actions of Justice. Justice for past killings. Justice to reduce future killings. Such long-term (even lifetime) peace-moles are paid by (and even members of) the rich families who profit from the ever-continuing slavery through usury, slavery through fiat inflation, slavery through owning all the land, and murders through wars they continuously create. These rich families definitely do NOT want Justice for the millions of murders in the middle-east which they planned and executed and are still executing today.
Both the useful-meek-idiots and the paid-deceptive-actors will imply that those who seek the Justice of executing the executors are barbarous warmongers, but I disagree.
Of course, there are various levels of Justice, but let's go back to the "rich thief greedily killing your child" scenario, what is the appropriate Justice for a killer who murdered for gold?
Arresting, presenting evidence, imprisoning, and yes even executing, seems like the appropriate response in my opinion. And what to do if the killer is rich enough to bribe the court system?
When discussing Justice for those who planned and executed and are executing the millions of arabs in the middle-east, people far away, strangers of some other races, we well-programmed-wimps say "Killing the war initiators would be too much, let's just talk about the war initiators and hope they cut it out. Let's definitely not try to kill the killers. Let the courts take care of that. And even then, we're against the death penalty for rich killers. Maybe someday the magical world court fairies will arrest the war initiators and give them life imprisonment. Yeah, that's the solution. Let's just wait and hope and take no action. Let's not even hope for the killers to be imprisoned. Let's simply hope that the killers someday realize the folly of their ways. Hey, I know, let's all send the killers some unconditional love and peace vibes from our heart chakras."
But be real, if these war initiators killed your own family member, your own mother, your own child, you would kill the killer, instantly, hopefully, thus reducing future killings, right? Well, you would, if you weren't slowed down by years of bullshit programming which the slave-masters have instilled in all us unconditional-love-compassion-peace-meek wimps. Perhaps we have all become so weak that we would simply run away to a phone and call the cops and hope the rich killer is brought to Justice by the court system.
I know, I know, this post comes off very "vigilante encouraging" "violence inciting" "agent provocateur", but I feel it is needed for balance when I saw the "only a warmongering type would want to bring killers to Justice" post above.
I have no interest in a debate about the subject. Hoi has made his John Lennon "Peace PLEASE" stance clear (in the past and present), and I have made my Peter Tosh "JUSTICE First" stance clear (in the past and present). Probably Simon is somewhere in the middle of these two extremes.
Probably most folks are reluctant to boldly write, "Yeah, let's bring the war initiators to Justice!" because, just like writing, "The Holocaust 'gas-chambers millions-killed' story was a hoax", such ideas themselves are illegal.
Taboo thoughts such as "Kill the world's top killers" or "Retribution enacted by victims or victims families is Justice" or "Justice without corrupt courts is possible and preferable", can not be legally written, or legally spoken, or even legally thought.
Even having the mere dream of bringing Justice to the world's war initiators, that Justice desire (even not acted upon) is an illegal intention.
So don't worry folks, no pressure to agree with this bold post of mine. In fact, don't even take the chance. It's too dangerous. High risk. No return. I'll simply assume that SOME of you are thinking "No, love is the answer" and I'll simply assume that SOME of you are thinking, "Yes, Justice is the answer."
Finally, even though I know SOME of us wish the killers would be brought to Justice, I also know that none of us has the courage to ever take such action.
One reason none of us will take such action of Justice is because those millions of arabs in the middle-east aren't OUR family members. The other reason is that our culture (the non-chosen culture) has been receiving 2000 years of unconditional-love programming, which was then especially turned up even higher since the 60s and 70s, and then even higher in the 80s 90s and 2000s.
First the vast mass of humanity was bred weak through centuries of the ruthless rulers sending the most Justice seeking men off to die in wars, and we physically meek survivors have become further mentally meek by the ever-increasingly-prevalent "Only Courts Can Dish Out Justice (and Courts Don't Approve Execution Of War Initiators) So Regular People Can Never Bring The Top Killers To Justice" programming.
No need to reply folks, just had to get that off my chest. We've all been fooled by their unjust one-way-street "be peaceful, even when the rulers are not, endure injustice forever, take no action, leave it all up to the world courts" programming, and so when I saw it pop up here once again I had to call it out.
