Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby simonshack on Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:05 pm

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Hmm... Perhaps some folks at this large observatory were willing to run our little test? :P

"Remote solar observatory remains closed after mysterious evacuation" (September 14, 2018)
Nobody is quite sure what’s going on at the Sunspot Solar Observatory in New Mexico, which was quickly and mysteriously evacuated on 6 September amid reports of a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe, and has remained closed. The manager of the mountaintop site, the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA), today released a statement saying the observatory “will remain closed until further notice due to an ongoing security concern.”
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/ ... evacuation
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby heniek1812 on Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:36 pm

This is very interesting. I had no clue that such a "problem" existed in a Universe that we have completely figured out and are instead concentrating on the sub sub atomic level. Just joking :-)

USNO and they basically refused to release the data to us,


What data is being refused that could be used to run this experiment ?

This is my first look at this parallax issue but I find it fascinating.

A very interesting and revealing discussion occurs here
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/244645/negative-parallax

and this paper seems (I have not finished it) to be quite interesting also.
Title: The Accuracy of Trigonometric Parallaxes of Stars
Authors: Vasilevskis, S.
Journal: Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, vol. 4, p.57
Bibliographic Code: 1966ARA&A...4...57V

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1966ARA%26A...4...57V
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby kickstones on Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:33 am

simonshack » September 16th, 2018, 1:05 pm wrote:*
Hmm... Perhaps some folks at this large observatory were willing to run our little test? :P

"Remote solar observatory remains closed after mysterious evacuation" (September 14, 2018)
Nobody is quite sure what’s going on at the Sunspot Solar Observatory in New Mexico, which was quickly and mysteriously evacuated on 6 September amid reports of a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe, and has remained closed. The manager of the mountaintop site, the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA), today released a statement saying the observatory “will remain closed until further notice due to an ongoing security concern.”
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/ ... evacuation


Apparently not, they closed the who facility down because a janitor was suspected of using the observatory’s WiFi network to download child pornography. :rolleyes:

https://www.rt.com/usa/438877-sunspot-o ... hild-porn/
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby Mansur on Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:25 pm

kickstones » September 20th, 2018, 11:33 am wrote:
simonshack » September 16th, 2018, 1:05 pm wrote:*
Hmm... Perhaps some folks at this large observatory were willing to run our little test? :P

"Remote solar observatory remains closed after mysterious evacuation" (September 14, 2018)
Nobody is quite sure what’s going on ...


Apparently not, they closed the who facility down because a janitor was suspected of using the observatory’s WiFi network to download child pornography. :rolleyes:

https://www.rt.com/usa/438877-sunspot-o ... hild-porn/

No, the cause was (multiple) UFO-sighting.

http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.com ... d-and.html

(Or the an[nu]al leave of the institution.)

[Edit: pun inserted.]
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby Kham on Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:12 am

6 SOLAR OBSERVATORIES WENT DOWN AT THE SAME TIME

Ken Wheeler uploaded a video on September 13th about the Solar Observatory getting shut down in New Mexico. After a little investigating he found out that several solar observatories all went down at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1o1d69lnQ
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby Mansur on Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:04 pm

WTF IS GOING ON!?!

The question is much more that what the hell are they doing in these facilities, in these “solar and radio observatories” – when they are not shot down? Don’t think that too much for the “curiosities” of the astronomers – and that they would invest billion dollars without (very) palpable results.
British Astronomy - Large Telescopes
After the Second World War, the Royal Observatory moved out of London to less smoky, less light-polluted skies over Herstmonceux in the south of England, keeping its link with Greenwich in its new name, the Royal Greenwich Observatory (RGO). As celestial navigation became less important for ships and even less important for aircraft, the RGO shifted its emphasis from science applications towards pure research. In 1965 it was transferred from the control of the Royal Navy to one of the new British Government bodies set up to fund scientific research (research councils). This was the Science Research Council, later renamed the Science and Engineering Research Council. SERC’s remit was split in 1994 between the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC) and the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council (PPARC). This placed astronomy and particle physics side by side in the same organisation. In part this was to exploit common scientific structures and the convergence of the sciences in astroparticle physics, and in part to contain within the same boundary the two Big Sciences that used international scientific organisations with international subscriptions that had financial features (e.g. GDP growth, exchange rate fluctuations) that were problematic to the government and the other research councils. Some expected a battle to the death of the two sciences as the cuckoo grew in a smaller nest and squashed the other bird; this has not happened and the scientists have found common interests. PPARC is thus the current UK funding agency for astronomy….
https://www.google.hu/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... XvQK75oV4z

One commenter said I don’t remember where:
Maybe these huge radio telescopes like Jodrell Bank, UK are not designed to pick up weak signals from somewhere like Andromeda (or whatever nonsense they claim) but from somewhere like Australia instead.

["Peter" was -- here -- who said this.
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p ... 2#p2402772 ]
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby simonshack on Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:48 am

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MANY THANKS, PROFESSOR KAPTEYN !

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I feel compelled to express my warmest gratitude towards the stellar work of Jacobus Cornelius Kapteyn (1851-1922). Kapteyn is considered as one the world's foremost experts in stellar motions and, in particular, for his unique "statistical" astronomy procedures. Under Kapteyn's "Plan of Selected Areas" according to which a number of observatories would coordinate their observational work of selected stellar regions, Kapteyn's astronomical laboratory provided the resources for reduction and analysis of data collected worldwide. His American colleague Frederick H. Seares famously stated that "Kapteyn presented the figure of an astronomer without a telescope. More accurately, all the telescopes of the world were his." (source: https://books.google.it/books?id=A7PA9E ... ld&f=false )

In other words, Kapteyn had vast resources at his disposal to carry through his statistical approach aimed at looking at the "big picture" of our stellar motions.

So why exactly, you may ask, would I be so very grateful for his work? Well, it all has to do with what he considered to be the major finding of his long and distinguished career, namely what became known as "STAR STREAMING". Fear not, laymen readers (and those of you with little patience for abstruse astronomical theories) - it really is nothing complicated at all. Quite simply, Kapteyn came to the conclusion that...

"The well-known Dutch astronomer, Professor Kapteyn, of Groningen, has lately reached the astonishing conclusion that a great part of the visible universe is occupied by two vast streams of stars travelling in opposite directions."
source: "Astronomy of To-Day" - by Cecil G. Dolmage (1910)

Image< https://books.google.it/books?id=r47qBw ... ns&f=false
Two more brief book extracts citing Kapteyn's STAR STREAMING theory:
http://septclues.com/TYCHOS/Kapteyn_Sta ... ing_01.jpg
http://septclues.com/TYCHOS/KapteynsFailure_01.jpg


Now, the notion that our surrounding stars would be divided in two groups moving in diametrically opposed directions may sound rather bizarre (to anyone accustomed to the idea that Earth revolves around the Sun). Yet, this is what this famous (Copernican) astronomer concluded. We shall now see how Professor Kapteyn may have reached his peculiar (yet ultimately illusory) conclusions - as viewed through the TYCHOS model's paradigm.

The TYCHOS model, of course, proposes that Earth rotates around its axis every 24 hours - and moves at a tranquil 1.6 km/h around its PVP orbit (while the Sun revolves around us once a year).

But, for the sake of the following little "thought exercise", let us imagine if Earth DID NOT ROTATE AROUND ITS AXIS - but only moved at 1.6 km/h.

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Joe and Jim would see the stars moving in opposite directions, that is, IF Earth did not rotate around its axis. In reality, of course, Earth DOES rotate around its axis once a day. Therefore, we always see the stars moving around us in ONE AND THE SAME direction at all times (whether we are in the Northern or the Southern hemisphere). And here's where it gets a bit complicated - so please bear with me for a few more minutes (after all, our planet's brightest astronomers have tried - in vain - to wrap their heads around this "mega-quiz" for centuries, nay, millenia!).

As you look at my above graphic, you may think that Joe will always measure a so-called "negative" parallax for all the "A" stars above him.
As you look at my above graphic, you may think that Jim will always measure a so-called "positive" parallax for all the "B" stars above him.

Furthermore:

As you look at my above graphic, you may think that Jim and Joe will always measure ZERO parallax for all the "C and D" stars.
(Let me remind you that "stellar parallax" means the lateral displacement of nearby stars against the very distant, "fixed" stars).

Not so: IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE TIME WINDOW WE CHOOSE TO MEASURE ANY STELLAR PARALLAX. Since no timestamps are to be found in official stellar parallax catalogues, their alleged "highly accurate data" is utterly useless. As it is, there are literally infinite combinations of time windows - which will all yield different parallax values.

This, because we all move around a trochoidal path every year - as thoroughly expounded and illustrated in my TYCHOS book.

For instance: if Jim decides to measure the parallax of a given star "P" over a full year, he will see star "P" moving in TWO DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED DIRECTIONS (in relation to the very distant, "fixed" stars) between a March>to>September period - and the successive September>to>March period :

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And here's another example showing how a given star "P" (located somewhere in the general direction of Earth's line of travel) can be measured to have either a 100% positive - OR a 100% negative- OR a (near) 0% parallax. It all depends on the TIME WINDOW chosen for the measurement !
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I know: your next question will be (the same as I had, some time ago): "how come none of our planet's greatest observatories haven't noticed these stellar parallax discrepancies ? And how come they haven't discussed and debated about it all?"

The simple answer to this question is : THEY HAVE ! - but this hasn't been much publicized - nor have these thorny issues ever been cleared up :

As documented by this 1966 academic paper by Stan Vasilevskis (of the famous Lick observatory), the four major American observatories were totally puzzled by the "disturbing differences", discrepancies and disagreements between their respective stellar parallax measurements:

"Parallaxes of the same stars determined by different observers and instruments often disagreed to such an extent that the reality of some parallaxes were in doubt. (...) Although the homogeneity has high statistical merit, the absence of various approaches makes it difficult to investigate and explain discrepancies between various determinations of parallaxes for the same stars. There are disturbing differences, and many investigations to be reviewed later have been carried out on these discrepancies. The present paper is a review of the present material, and a consideration of the possibilities of modifications in the technique of parallax determination in view of past experience and the present status of technology."
http://adsbit.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-i ... lassic=YES

Dear friends, you may now ask:

"If all the current stellar parallax measurements are meaningless (due to the impossible geometry of the Copernican model), why should any old theories such as Kapteyn's 'STAR STREAMING' be of any value insofar as supporting / validating the TYCHOS model?"

Well, here's why :

"Kapteyn continued with the more literal interpretation in constructing his Universe and interpreted the two streams as two systems rotating in opposite directions. The velocity of the two streams would be around 20 km/s, but in opposite directions."
source: "The Legacy of J.C. Kapteyn - studies on Kapteyn and the development of modern astronomy" - by P.C. Van Der Kruit and K. Van Berkel
https://books.google.it/books?id=AlZtCQ ... ns&f=false


Now, Kapteyn's approximate value of "20 km/s" has been more recently revised to 19.4 km/s:
https://www.tychos.info/citation/165B_Solar-Apex.htm and https://www.tychos.info/citation/165C_Antapex.htm

So let us first convert this value from km/s to km/h: 19.4 km/s = 69,840 km/h

If we now use my reduction factor of 42,633 (which I have expounded in Chapter 36 of my TYCHOS book), we obtain:

69,840 km/h / 42,633 ≈ 1.638 km/h - or VERY NEARLY my value of 1.601169 km/h for the orbital speed of Earth!

In other words, Kapteyn's lifetime efforts have (unwittingly) produced solid - or, if you will, "statistical"- evidence in support of the TYCHOS model.

Many thanks, Professor Kapteyn!
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Re: Testing TYCHOS: PVP Parallax Experiments

Unread postby patrix on Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:10 am

I feel compelled to express my warmest gratitude towards the stellar work of Jacobus Cornelius Kapteyn

Pun intended? :D

But seriously, Many Thanks should also go out to You Simon for doing this! Its not easy to come up with such a significant discovery as this, and it's even harder to bear the complete lack of interest from the astronomical community. But truth will prevail, even if it will take some time.
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