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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:37 pm
by traumabasedmindcontr
Makkonen wrote:
Maat wrote:Two different "photographers" were needed to shoot 'skull-cardi-girl' with & without 'family', apparently. :rolleyes:
JEFF J MITCHELL / GETTY IMAGES is credited for 'shrunken-skull-cardi-girl' with 'family' http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/ ... 22717.html
& JONATHAN NACKSTRAND for 'footless skull-cardi-girl' solo.
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/norj ... 96524.html
Yes, Maat.

There seem to be a lot of fictitious photographer identities being bandied about by the perps. These "photographers" are usually capable of some amazing feats. One such super-photographer that has been already mentioned in this thread is "Matt Dunham".

Some names just seem to be very recurrent in these psy ops, while others are probably randomly generated "on the spot" to give a sufficient amount of variety.

"Jonathan Nackstrand" sounds like a (somewhat weird) swedish name - and I found the following:


“Jonathan Nackstrand” is supposedly a Swedish photographer with the Agence France Presse, living in the “Stockholm Area, Sweden”:
http://se.linkedin.com/pub/jonathan-nac ... 32/952/749


… there is however no Swedish citizen by that name (which is easily established thru a simple search here):
http://www.ratsit.se/BC/Search.aspx


The only listing “Jonathan” provides for his education on “LinkedIn” is:

Kiryat Ono Photography Collage
Photography
2005 – 2007

(yes, that’s ”collage” with an ”a”).

… I can find no such education, but there is an ”Ono Academic College” situated in Kiryat Ono, Tel Aviv District, Israel. If you trust Wikipedia, this College has a program that serves the Ultra-orthodox population by allowing men to attend classes on different days than women.

… on LinkedIn Jonathan Nackstrand is a white guy apparenly facing some cold wheather. On Facebook he’s a black guy:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/jonathan.nackstrand


… I also fond a couple of Pictures “Jonathan Nackstrand” took at “Jerusalem Gay Pride March” in 2008:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouth ... ery-j.html


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... is this weird enough??

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:51 pm
by Maat
Yep, it gets weirder by the minute, trauma! :lol:

I just re-examined the Andersim ferry crossing sequence in the Bilde 'photos' http://vg.no/vgpluss/article/1LaxOvUp to make some sense of the 'close-up' still from the video (missing in the site photos). They show the intended perspective but end up proving more impossible — the white 'partition' thing is supposed to be a view from above the roof of the wheelhouse (which is right at the back of the boat!)

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The brown deck still vanishes on this 'shape-shifting' thing...but where the hell was the "photographer" supposed to be — hanging from a sky hook ? :blink:

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:08 pm
by Makkonen
Great research, trauma & Maat. :)

Like "Jonathan Nackstrand", "Matt Dunham" also has some regular/plausible photographs in addition to psy op photos (http://www.thebppa.com/Matt-Dunham) to give credence to the claim that he is a real, legitimate person.

He's even "interviewed" here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greensl ... newspapers

Strange, though, how we don't get to see any photographs of the person himself behind all these "masterpieces"/"shots of the year"! Also strange that completely regardless of the location of any "major event" in the world, "Matt Dunham" will find his way there! No other photographer works for AP? ;)

"Jonathan Nackstrand" seems like a similar type of omnipresent psy op "photographer" that has been given a fair load of regular photos to legitimize his name.

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:11 pm
by traumabasedmindcontr
Makkonen wrote:Great research, trauma & Maat. :)

Like "Jonathan Nackstrand", "Matt Dunham" also has some regular/plausible photographs in addition to psy op photos (http://www.thebppa.com/Matt-Dunham) to give credence to the claim that he is a real, legitimate person.

He's even "interviewed" here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greensl ... newspapers

Strange, though, how we don't get to see any photographs of the person himself behind all these "masterpieces"/"shots of the year"! Also strange that completely regardless of the location of any "major event" in the world, "Matt Dunham" will find his way there! No other photographer works for AP? ;)

"Jonathan Nackstrand" seems like a similar type of omnipresent psy op "photographer" that has been given a fair load of regular photos to legitimize his name.

Thank You! Just to add: "Nackstrand"; now I'm guessing, but that certainly sounds as if someone with very limited
knowledge of the swedish language has made an effort to construct a swedish name. It literally translates as
"Neck-Beach" (Google is right on this one) and it sounds just as weird in swedish as it does in english!:

http://translate.google.se/?hl=sv&tab=w ... Nackstrand

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:11 pm
by brianv
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I'm not really cut out for this PsyOp lark!

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:26 pm
by corsarino
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Psy -Op? :o :o

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:01 pm
by Heiwa
traumabasedmindcontr wrote:
Makkonen wrote: I cropped the van out:

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Forgive me if I've missed something, but it seems to me that the very existence (at least
in a whole lot of photographs) of this vehicle must be a huge problem for those
who wish to defend the official version of events. Even if there actually IS an "Anders Behring
Breivik" who rented this vehicle, how does that explain it's precence on tiny Utøya? Clearly
no-one is suggesting that Breivik brought this vehicle on the Ferry? Even if that had been
possible, for what reason would he have wanted to do that? To park it next to the pier,
in a manouver that could only hinder his planned actions? For that matter: Has a vehicle
this size ever been brought to Utøya? If one has: When was the last time
something like that happened? Well, I'm just full of questions...
A good question. Actually two! What about the second van?

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:11 pm
by SmokingGunII
Maat/Brian

There is nothing amiss with the different perspectives of the ferry boat. The "bulkhead" thing doesn't disappear, nor does the muddy floor, they are obscured.

I have much respect for both of you, but I do believe that a lot of the photographic analysis on this board (it was the same with 7/7) is flawed. :(


Trauma - that is an interesting post and probably getting closer to the truth of this Psyop.

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:19 pm
by brianv
SmokingGunII wrote:Maat/Brian

There is nothing amiss with the different perspectives of the ferry boat. The "bulkhead" thing doesn't disappear, nor does the muddy floor, they are obscured.

I have much respect for both of you, but I do believe that a lot of the photographic analysis on this board (it was the same with 7/7) is flawed. :(


Trauma - that is an interesting post and probably getting closer to the truth of this Psyop.
Not to distract from this topic but could you point me to the "7/7" photo analysis which you consider to be "flawed", although I've never seen any from you, have I?

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:23 pm
by SmokingGunII
Brian - a lot of the analysis of the bus at Tavistock sq was flawed and I said so in the thread concerned. I'm not here to start an argument, nor derail this excellent thread, but the point is people are making accusations on photographs that are easily explained, which doesn't help the thread at all.

If you want me to point out the "missing" shelf I would be happy to do so - same goes for Maat's "moving" PA and disappearing muddy floor. I'd rather you took another look.

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:32 pm
by traumabasedmindcontr
Makkonen wrote:Upon closer look that hi-res image (http://static.diario.latercera.com/201108/1323879.jpg)...
That is some photo! It would appear as if this guy is missing his right foot:

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
by brianv
SmokingGunII wrote:Brian - a lot of the analysis of the bus at Tavistock sq was flawed and I said so in the thread concerned. I'm not here to start an argument, nor derail this excellent thread, but the point is people are making accusations on photographs that are easily explained, which doesn't help the thread at all.

If you want me to point out the "missing" shelf I would be happy to do so - same goes for Maat's "moving" PA and disappearing muddy floor. I'd rather you took another look.
Explain please, "that which is easily explained"! Have you posted somewhere explaining? Have I missed something?

Yes please point out the missing shelf and Maat's moving PA!

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:37 pm
by Euphoria
I promise to try to keep to the images in future. btw all the posters on here who dismissed my previous entries, I have spoken to Simon personally and we are on the same page with re. to almost everything.

Anyway, just out of curiosity, I've been using a computer program to check for anagrams of 'Anders Behring Breivik.' Here were the top results:

Brandishing
Inbreedings (!)
Renderings (!)

Not that this means anything, but funny nonetheless.

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:27 pm
by heavyplastic
Maat wrote:Image
Since when do Norwegian police officers wear "NY" baseball caps while on duty?
[is he trying to tell us something perhaps?]

Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:56 pm
by Makkonen
W T F :blink: :

(Transl.) Attorney: Breivik considered suicide at Utoya [nothing strange in the caption, but, but... in the actual text...]
Lippestad [the attorney] told VG that Breivik can now watch DVDs in his cell.

- I don't know what series they are, but I know that they are family friendly series that have no violent content, Lippestad told VG.
:lol: :o :wub: