nonho’
“Maybe we can say that there is a considerable difference between the reliability and actuality of most of the observations of the cosmos that have been made from earth over the past few centuries -- painting a puzzling and complex description of a very vast territory of which we knew nothing before -- versus the alleged space "explorations" that brought back imagery and records directly from astral bodies.”
Spot on and pretty much what I was trying to say in my long winded
‘Galaxy Challenge’ post though it isn’t just the imagery / information supposedly coming back from ‘space probes’ etc but also from notable earth-bound observatories too. Simon’s post concerning the treatment of
“off message” astronomer Halton Arp should clearly demonstrate this.
Lux
“Anyway, I'm not trying to beat the drum for life on other planets but my point is that the public's viewpoint on space and the solar system has changed since NASA took over and it appears to have been an intentional change. And, it seems like NASA was created expressly to make that change. People don't view the solar system or space in general in the same way that they used to, thanks to NASA and its related persons and groups.
But, why they did it, I can't say.”
Indeed Lux, indeed. As to
‘why they did it’, well, it’s my personal understanding that NASA has two main objectives (other than embezzlement), the first of which is the brainwashing of the worlds population (the ‘West’ in particular) into the total acceptance of an ‘evolutionary Universe’ and therefore by default, the eventual destruction of a belief, still held dear by many millions as regards to the holy scriptures and thereby rubbishing any notion that these people may have of a God, a creator; (in other words a psyop of truly biblical proportions
).
I didn’t want to bring the subject of Christianity into the conversation again but it’s difficult to ignore the fact that quite obviously these ‘arcane’ beliefs are now be held in nothing but the upmost contempt, something that must be targeted, ridiculed and stamped upon by every method available, of which I would include the strange ‘rise’ and empowerment of Islam that we’ve all borne witness too over the last decade and a bit.
From personal experience (popped into the world at the perfect time for the ‘Apollo missions’ to make an everlasting impression) I remember my parents regularly attending Sunday mass at their local village church (home counties England) where I know they used to garner much enjoyment, social interaction, a sense of ‘belonging’ and in the words of mother a ‘certain degree of comfort’.... religion aside, undeniably good qualities that shouldn’t, for one second be underestimated.
Not much of a surprise then that this ‘community binder’ no longer exists. Sure, the church is still there but it has no genuine, Christian congregation to speak of. Instead, it’s now generally regarded as something of a ‘village joke’...hosting all manner of potty events / fringe political discussions encouraged by ever more blatantly left wing clergy. Most don’t go anymore. In fact, if my parents are anything to go by they stopped attending around the end of the 1970’s which effectively ended what I know to have been an enduring and important part of our family history and surely countless of others too.
Not empirical evidence as to the effects of NASA et al of course, though having said that, the pews certainly weren't emptied beforehand by Leon Foucault’s ‘amazing’ pendulum (Hmm...must have lacked a certain impressiveness...put that away Leon!
).
The second reason is that...
‘isn’t this all so piss easy?’ Yeah, all you do is build a bloody great firework, strap a couple of blokes to the top of it, light the blue touch-paper and you’re off, usually without a hitch...it’s just routine, anyone could do it (if only they had the same kind of ill-gotten gains at their disposal). So, now that we have this impression firmly implanted into our arrogantly assumed tiny minds it doesn’t take a great leap of faith to begin to believe that ‘others’ (aliens) could do precisely the same...only better, because they’re likely to be far more advanced, having ‘evolved’ further in our 15 billion year old history of the Universe
It certainly seems true to say that most people accept that the existence of extra-terrestrials is at the very least ‘likely’ if not an absolute certainty which really isn’t at all surprising given the snow capped mountain of bullshit streaming out of NASA and their brothers in arms of the movie making industry. So, are we being primed for that much discussed ‘visit‘
(as I’m sure any frequenter to SC knows) that’s speculated to be the ultimate fake ‘crisis’ that leads to the formation of the much talked about ‘one world government?’ I dunno about that, I guess only time will tell.
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I guess many here will have heard of William Cooper (I personally had not till very recently) but just in case, here’s a link to the man, his career and untimely somewhat suspect demise...
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/wil ... conspiracy . Interesting stuff for sure, but with a bit of further digging I found an excerpt from his book ‘Majesty Twelve’ concerning NASA through this site...
http://www.itsaboutthattime.net/art/greatdeception.html where I’ll take the liberty of posting a few extracts which in essence back up my claims concerning the ‘cold’ of space (though Mr. Cooper naturally describes it slightly differently)...
“No man has ever ascended much higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. At or under that altitude the astronauts are beneath the radiation of the Van Allen Belt* and the Van Allen Belt shields them from the extreme radiation which permeates space.”
“Heat is defined as the vibration or movement of molecules within matter. The faster the molecular motion the higher the temperature. The slower the molecular motion the colder the temperature. Absolute zero is that point where all molecular motion ceases. In order to have hot or cold, molecules must be present.
A vacuum is a condition of nothingness where there are no molecules. Vacuums exist in degrees. Some scientists tell us that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum. Space is the closest thing to an absolute vacuum that is known to us. There are so few molecules present in most areas of what we know as "space" that any concept of "hot" or "cold" is impossible to measure. A vacuum is a perfect insulator.”
“Radiation of all types will travel through a vacuum but will not affect the vacuum. Radiant heat from the sun travels through the vacuum of space but does not "warm" space. In fact the radiant heat of the sun has no affect whatsoever until it strikes matter. Molecular movement will increase in direct proportion to the radiant energy which is absorbed by matter. The time it takes to heat matter exposed to direct sunlight in space is determined by its color, its elemental properties, its distance from the sun, and its rate of absorption of radiant heat energy. Space is NOT hot. Space is NOT cold.”
“Objects which are heated cannot be cooled by space. In order for an object to cool it must first be removed from direct sunlight. Objects which are in the shadow of another object will eventually cool but not because space is "cold". Space is not cold. Hot and cold do not exist in the vacuum of space.”
“NASA claims that the spacecraft was slowly rotated causing the shadowed side to be cooled by the intense cold of space... an intense cold that DOES NOT EXIST. In fact the only thing that could have been accomplished by a rotation of the spacecraft is a more even and constant heating such as that obtained by rotating a hot dog on a spit.”
I put an asterisk next to the first mention of the ‘Van Allen radiation belts’ because this is the only thing that I take umbrage with. Why would we have exo-atmospheric ‘belts of radiation?’ (think your common or garden domestic heating rather than anything ‘nuclear’) and why would this provide ‘protection’ when it is perfectly obvious that it is only our atmosphere that protects us from the primary source of energy...the Sun. The ‘ionosphere’ (which includes ‘Thermosphere’ and ‘Exosphere’ where much energy appears to be stripped by process of changing molecular structures, hence the name) is the actual ‘belt’ doing this job and the higher you go the less ‘protection’ you will receive until eventually your molecules and ‘testicules’ are literally roasted beyond recognition! ‘Houston...I gotta, I gotta ffffer fer fuckin’ problem’.
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One other thing I gleaned from this site under
‘We have been deceived by NASA’ was this rather startling, biblical cross reference to the Apollo missions and 9/11 (apologies if this has already been discussed elsewhere)...
“The word "Apollo" has an interesting meaning. Yes, it is the name of one of the Greek gods, but more specifically it is a related word to a word used in Revelation 9--"Apollyon.”
APOLLYON. The Greek name, meaning "Destroyer," given in Revelation 9:11 for "the angel of the bottomless pit" (in Hebrew called Abaddon).
Revelation 9:11...
http://bible.cc/revelation/9-11.htm
In fact it is my estimate that they knew what the sun is in the early 80s.
