Elon Musk, SpaceX and PayPal

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Not sure if this clip below is included in the above videos, but it is well worth highlighting when the live CCTV cuts and then re-appears again 3 secs later. :)

SpaceX Falcon 9 Landing Glitch on live feed MAY 30 2020 at Drone Ship (interruption at 0:26)




full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-D5eVzkCvU
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HEAVY WEATHER?

The album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYN7Uh28LI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_b8rNvuNjM

Based on SCS’s question regarding the weather (given the anomalies in the photographs of the ‘launch’, I came upon this little (?) gem regarding the ‘launch’ of yet another firework purporting to leave the ‘atmosphere’.

This link provides more data:

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa ... d/historic

Note: Please scroll down for 30th May, 2020

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WARNING! Satire ahead!

Link to pull apart:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/spacex-n ... down-time/


My comments between [in italics.]

Told by: Stephanie Dube Dwilson [What sort of name is that?]

https://heavy.com/author/dube/


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Highlights from the page (mainly text. This is not easy!) as I can't relay the whole page but bear with me...Let us start with a number...yes, nine sounds good so let's have nine and spell it 9. And of course a Falcon, soaring into the skies only looking for prey...Falcon 9 ,chaps, sounds good to me...

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SpaceX NASA Launch Delayed Until Saturday: New Countdown Set

By Stephanie Dube Dwilson

Updated May 30, 2020 at 4:08pm

The launch successfully took place Saturday, May 30, at 3:22 p.m. Eastern [Hello! The fetish numerologists are here!]

[Follows a video]

The Launch Was Scrubbed [Cleansed of the corona virus! ] on Wednesday & Was Successful on Saturday

The historic NASA SpaceX launch was scheduled for Wednesday afternoon, May 27 [Numbers?] at 4:33 [Yet more numbers, ho, humm!] p.m. Eastern in Florida but it had to be delayed because of three weather violations [which were, whatever a 'violation is?] requiring the launch to be scrubbed [clean of 'viruses' again? We can't have the I.S.S. crew contaminated!]



This is [delayed?] standard procedure for launches and, NASA said, it’s nothing to worry about.[We are so pleased! Thank you!] Launches periodically get scrubbed due to weather not behaving [Give me strength! Weather behaving? To whom it is responsible? Is it not the behaviour’s of 'scientists' who know all about global warming--to the idea that they actually do anything positive for humanity?] and it’s even more important to do so for astronauts’ safety [They hope to rely on the back door of the imaginary 'rocket' to escape back to a pint in the boozer, get a ‘little over the eight’ then deny they were anywhere near the incident when it happened in later interviews?]

A new countdown can be seen here or below. This countdown timer is based on the time released by NASA predicting a 3:22 p.m. [Numerology alert!] Eastern launch on Saturday, May 30. [Humm, '3'. Alert modified to ‘Orange’?]

Some YouTube channels have helpfully provided [Are allowed to provide?] live coverage about the launch that’s still updating after the launch was scrubbed. You can see one below from NASA.

[Follows a video]

A NASA representative [Probably another not-so-pale person resisting the urge to bleach his skin in case of trying to be something he isn’t familiar with, although a female or transgender version may be an option to counter gender differences?] later shared that three conditions were violated, necessitating scrubbing the launch on Wednesday. These were natural lightning [?], the field mills,[what the **** are 'field mills'?] and the attached anvil [Just to hammer in this nonsense?]. The weather would have cleared in 10 minutes, but today was an “instantaneous launch” [?] due to necessary orbital mechanics [These people like to go around in circles. Orbital' mechanics? Space station on time? What time?] that would allow the spacecraft(y) to get to the space station on time.

Watch More Live Streams Below [Watch them if you want from the site]

The weather was given a 60% chance of holding [What?] and being favorable for Wednesday’s launch on Tuesday, but favorability decreased over time until it was scrubbed. [Possibly due to 'virus' infection? Where’s the brush Frank?

More Details About the Launch

NASA shared [Really,? With whom?] what we can expect to happen after liftoff and the anticipated launch. [Was the game software ready for launch? Did it perhaps have a virus?]]

Saturday, May 30

11 a.m. – NASA TV launch coverage begins (continues through docking)
3:22 p.m. – Liftoff
4:09 p.m. – Crew Dragon phase burn [It's getting bloomin' hot in here!]
4:55 p.m. – Far-field manual flight test [Your guess is as good as mine. Where did you put those binoculars?]
5:55 p.m. – Astronaut downlink event from Crew Dragon [Amazing of what these mobile phones applications are capable.]

6:30 p.m. – Postlaunch news conference at Kennedy
Administrator Bridenstine
Kathy Lueders, manager, NASA Commercial Crew Program
SpaceX representative
Kirk Shireman, manager, International Space Station Program
NASA Chief Astronaut Pat Forrester

[All bovine excrement from the Promotarati of this scam.]

This test flight is an important step in NASA’s Commercial Crew Program [?], whose goal is to ultimately provide safe transportation to and from the International Space Station [You catch the Number 11 rocket from Cape Coronavil and then the Number 9 SpaceX shuttle to ISS1. Welcome aboard! Make sure you wear your mask!] .

The launch is known as the Demo-2, demonstrating SpaceX’s ability to fly astronauts safely to and from the space station. [Via what?] The astronauts flying today are Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley. [Please give exact details of them and their abilities to defraud the gullible generations of their past hoaxes.]

The SpaceX Crew Dragon [What the **** is a 'crew dragon'?] will lift off on a Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A in Florida for an extended stay at the space station for the Demo-2 mission. [Much like the Windows 8 then 8.1 fiasco!] This is the final test flight for SpaceX and the first time NASA astronauts test the system in orbit. [And if it could happen, probably the last.]

After the Crew Dragon lifts off, it will accelerate the astronauts to 17,000 mph to intercept [Why would it need to 'intercept' if it could reliably get the co-orrdinates with all the 'technology' available? Is it looking for trouble?] with the International Space Station, NASA shared [With whom?]. Once in orbit, the crew will verify that the Crew Dragon is performing correctly [How?] through maneuvering thrusters [!] and performing other tests [What tests?] . After about [Surely this is pecision?] 24 hours, the Crew Dragon will dock with the space station. After docking, the crew members will become members of the Expedition 63 [Numerologists take note! Clue: 6 + 3 = 9]] crew and perform tests [?] on the Crew Dragon along with research tasks on the space station. [Which are what exactly?] The Crew Dragon can stay in orbit for 110 days [Numbers again?] , but the exact duration of this mission is being determined. [We await determination with baited breath like fish on a hook.]The operational Crew Dragon used later will be able to stay in orbit for at least 210 days, per NASA requirements.[Please explain requirements.]

When the expedition ends, the Crew Dragon will undock with both astronauts on board [What?] and re-enter the Earth’s atmosphere, splashing down off Florida’s Atlantic Coast. [Where?] The SpaceX Go Navigator [Please supply exact details.] recovery vessel will pick up the Crew Dragon and return to Cape Canaveral. The date of this part of the flight is still being determined. [Hopefully for those awaiting rescue from their ordeal!]

This is the final step before NASA certifies the Crew Dragon for long-duration missions to the space station. [Details would be appreciated by those who actually paid for it. However, since it does not exist in reality, where did the money go?]

This is also the first human flight to space from the Kennedy Space Center in nine years [!] , NASA shared. [With whom? Why the delay?]


There is an old saying in the East End of London; Bollocks to the whole thing!

[Bollocks: nonsense; rubbish (used to express contempt or disagreement, or as an exclamation of annoyance).]

Be well.

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What we would like to see is Falcon 9 fuel mass at launch, and fuel mass and velocity at start of descent. All the fuel mass for the descent has to be lifted and accelerated, and then de-accelerate again before it burns. Or maybe they have a gas station up there.

And while they are about it perhaps a brief explanation of how they will achieve an air cooled re-entry. The decorative scoops of the side of the capsule must be the secret.
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You'll probably have noticed that the astronaut's suits are way cooler than the old-fashioned previously furnished by NASA. Not surprisingly, they've been designed by the same guy who prepared Batman's gardrobe: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/spacex-su ... man-artist

I guess that the script has also been written by some Hollywood guionist.
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So, Elon Musk performed last night at the Saturday Night Live show.

I have little to comment about this umpteenth proof that Mr Musk is nothing but a standup comedian - other than sharing with you these über-cringy lines from Italy's largest newspaper, "La Repubblica". (The silly article states, among other things, that this Saturday Night Live show "was the first to be aired on live streaming at an international level in more than 100 countries, from Australia to the United Kingdom" :unsure: )
"Disinhibited, witty, apparently at ease despite not being a comedian or an actor, Musk at one point called his mother, Maye, a beautiful ex model and nutrition guru, on stage."
https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2021/0 ... 300167922/
"Despite not being a comedian or an actor." Yeah, rrrright. -_-


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCF8I_X1qKI
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Bugs, bats, flies, bees, birds and mosquitoes - HERE WE GO AGAIN :rolleyes:


So today I bumped into this "SPACE X rocket launch video" featuring a bird flying in front of the camera lens - just as the rocket ignites.

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sAud84GTuAk

Newcomers to this forum might wonder why I'm posting this. Well, back in 2016 I compiled in this other post five different Space X "rocket launch videos" which all featured some winged animals flying in front of the camera lens - just as the rockets were taking off.

Here they are:

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CLIP 1 : The SpaceX MOSQUITO (approx 1 minute before alleged rocket launch of May 27, 2016 - and JUST as puff of smoke bursts out of rocket tower)
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source: https://youtu.be/wPYOtCFSLKw?t=1188

CLIP 2: The Space X FLY (25 secs before alleged rocket launch of March1, 2013)
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source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... W4#t=2363s

CLIP 3: The SpaceX BAT (19 seconds before alleged rocket launch of Oct 7, 2012)
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source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... zXU#t=583s

CLIP 4: The SpaceX BEE (3 seconds before alleged rocket launch ofJune 4, 2010)
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source; http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Hng8#t=86s

CLIP 5: The SpaceX BIRD (1 second after rocket exits lens view of alleged launch ofJune 4, 2010)
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source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HrP0#t=61s

Now, you will just have to take my word for it, but I wish to add that - over the years - I have seen a number of other SpaceX launch videos featuring some winged animal flying in front of the camera lenses (just as the rocket was taking off), but I simply forgot (or was too lazy at the time) to save them.

May everyone draw their own (personal & intelligent) conclusions as to the meaning and purpose of all this. I really don't wish to condition anyone's minds. You are absolutely free, by all means, to think that there's nothing strange about this - and that bugs, bats, flies, bees, birds and mosquitoes will fly in front of camera lenses all the time. -_-
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Dear Simon and others,

My take on this is that perhaps 'they' think these 'fly-by's' (!) add some credibility that these launches are real and actually happen in real-life? More wag-the-dog footage?
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Of course, the new SpaceX Starship (S.S.) has 33 Raptor Engines! So silly, the names they use make it sound like a movie or a phantasy book; Starship, Raptor, Super Heavy Booster. Something I noticed when watching the lift-of video was the nice smoke hexagram produced by the 33 engines. It is almost art.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGVXx1A1cW4
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Last weekend I spoke to a rocket scientist. First one I spoke to in my life. First he explained me about satellites and the other nonsense. Later he explained what he did. He sends 4 to 5 meters rockets in the air. Well he doesn't even. He works on the mixture of fuel. To get something up the air. (Which is quite hard) With what he does, he has no control on that projectile going up the air (it's like big fireworks). It's just getting a metal structure up the air. Beyond 20kms. The goal is to send satellites. And in his thought if you go beyond 40km there is a vacuum and he told me there is no co tact and then after a 100km there are orbits. And somehow magically they get into "orbit". He is not involved in any way on the load of the rocket. Just the fuel. The guy was smart. And I can not imagine that he knows a lot less than the guys at spacex.

We didn't speak on fakery.

But I was surprised and not surprised what many real "rocket scientists" do. They try to get heavy metal structures high up the air. That's the current level of "the rocket science".

They need to believe that some colleagues at spacex do the wildest stuff. While they barely get a metal structure off the ground. (With a lot of brainpower)

It's funny that this is so prevalent.

These rocket scientists really look up to the other rocket scientists doing all the wild stuff.
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panertos wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:47 pm Last weekend I spoke to a rocket scientist. First one I spoke to in my life. First he explained me about satellites and the other nonsense. Later he explained what he did. He sends 4 to 5 meters rockets in the air.
A bit like this, I presume? -_-


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlVcAJFU-5E
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simonshack wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:14 pm
A bit like this, I presume? -_-


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlVcAJFU-5E
:D

I think this is the max we can do as man.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdNaRuUUgdk

Amateurs are able to make full cars (engine included), it's fascinating.

And we need to believe that passionate amateurs who spend more time on it than "educated rocket scientists" can do so much less.

I don't buy it.

It seems these SpaceX rockets can go up:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsObakHJReE

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2b7_8TUVc

But then they just dive down in the sea. Exactly like the amateur rockets, just a bit bigger.

Convinced now that all stories we ever heard on missiles, intercontinental missiles are all nonsense. We basically have those amateur rockets, just a bit bigger, and there is almost no control on how these rockets move. (probably has to do with all the different layers in air, heat, pressure, by no means a constant.

I think we never went beyond a certain height, maybe 20km or 40km. And then the rocket pieces just drop somewhere in the sea.

Is there any real proof that anything ever went in "space"?
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2b7_8TUVc

@Panertos, what do you think of this video? Do you think SpaceX has the tech to land the rocket like it does in the video?
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Panertos wrote: What do you think?
ADMIN NOTICE (simonshack): Oh dear! I mistakenly overwrote your post, dear Panertos! My sincere apologies!

Dear Panertos,

I think you may find many answers to your questions in this old Cluesforum thread (that started back in 2013) : -_-

Does Rocketry Work beyond Earth's atmosphere? viewtopic.php?t=1632
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panertos wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:54 pm
Panertos wrote: What do you think?


Dear Panertos,

I think you may find many answers to your questions in this old Cluesforum thread (that started back in 2013) : -_-

Does Rocketry Work beyond Earth's atmosphere? viewtopic.php?t=1632
Hi thanks, but who is writing this? Is it necessary to delete/replace the post I wrote? Maybe a mistake or intentional? As I wrote quite an extensive reply here to @nefilimp

I was also wondering on the illusionary aspect how to pull of tricks like that. Speculating on how they do it.
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panertos wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:51 am
Hi thanks, but who is writing this? Is it necessary to delete/replace the post I wrote? Maybe a mistake or intentional? As I wrote quite an extensive reply here to @nefilimp
Oh my goodness! Yes, that sure was a mistake - I must have inadvertently overwritten your last post - while I just meant to reply to it! My bad (& brainfade...)

I've tried to retrieve your last post in the forum's database - but with no luck.

My sincere apologies, dear Panertos - please forgive me, this won't happen again. :(
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