Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

[brianv]

Hello,

The following comment applies to the Boston Marathon case but also to most "terrorist attacks". The goal of the latter is to strike fear into the heart of the people and make them look “outside” and not “inside”, both in a geographical meaning and an inner meaning, i. e. to reinforce the idea that every Western “citizen” lives in a great democratic country (with an equally great government which protects its “citizens”) which bad and foreign terrorists wish to destroy. However, not every "attack" should be regarded as operations set up by “our” “governments”. Indeed, many third-world psychopaths do enter European countries and North America every day due to the open border policy.

And which category does Boston fit into...in your opinion?

[fbenario]

Hello,

The following comment applies to the Boston Marathon case but also to most "terrorist attacks". The goal of the latter is to strike fear into the heart of the people and make them look “outside” and not “inside”, both in a geographical meaning and an inner meaning, i. e. to reinforce the idea that every Western “citizen” lives in a great democratic country (with an equally great government which protects its “citizens”) which bad and foreign terrorists wish to destroy. However, not every "attack" should be regarded as operations set up by “our” “governments”. Indeed, many third-world psychopaths do enter European countries and North America every day due to the open border policy.

What a foolish post. This thread has shown conclusively and in great detail that no 'terror' attack happened in Boston. So why do you now insinuate that it might in fact have been an act of terror by some third-world type?

[DeeJay]

To attend Obama's State of the Union Address tomorrow, Tuesday, 28th January 2014...

Carlos Arredondo and Jeff Bauman, survivors of the Boston marathon bombing

Carlos Arredondo and Jeff Bauman are forever linked due to the attacks on the 117th Boston Marathon. In what has become an iconic image from the day in April of 2013, Carlos – wearing his white Cowboy hat – was captured rushing a badly injured Jeff away from the bombing to safety, thereby becoming two of the faces of "Boston Strong." From his intensive care hospital bed, Jeff played a vital role in identifying the bombers. After losing both legs in the attack, he is battling back and describes himself as a quick healer and stronger now than he was before the attack. Jeff, 27, and Carlos, 53, who is a Gold Star Father, have become close friends.


http://news.yahoo.com/boston-bomb-survi ... itics.html

[simonshack]

Hello,

The following comment applies to the Boston Marathon case but also to most "terrorist attacks". The goal of the latter is to strike fear into the heart of the people and make them look “outside” and not “inside”, both in a geographical meaning and an inner meaning, i. e. to reinforce the idea that every Western “citizen” lives in a great democratic country (with an equally great government which protects its “citizens”) which bad and foreign terrorists wish to destroy. However, not every "attack" should be regarded as operations set up by “our” “governments”. Indeed, many third-world psychopaths do enter European countries and North America every day due to the open border policy.

Subdivo mon ami,

That - rather funny - last sentence of yours (highlighted in red) inspires me to ask you a couple of questions.

QUESTION 1: Do you know that the most arrogant and disparaging term "Third World" was coined during the (utterly staged and phony) "COLD WAR" - and promptly adopted by Western psychopaths who've kept bombing, pillaging and plundering the natural resources of the militarily weaker and less industrialized ("third world") countries for centuries? Actually - and for accuracy, the term was first coined by a Frenchman, Alfred Sauvy:

"French demographer, anthropologist and historian Alfred Sauvy, in an article published in the French magazine L'Observateur, August 14, 1952, coined the term Third World, referring to countries that were unaligned with either the Communist Soviet bloc or the Capitalist NATO bloc during the Cold War"(...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

Now, and please understand - I am NOT suggesting that there are NO bad people in the "third world" - or that NO such bad people ever enter our Western countries with bad intentions. However, this brings me to question N°2:

QUESTION 2: Can you point me out any major terrorist attack (as reported by the Western media) in the Western world in later years / or decades which have been provenly perpetrated by "third world" citizens / or terror organizations?

A bon entendeur !

[Lazlo]

Bear With Me Please

I am the worst person to do photo research. Hoi couldn't sell me on sim photos and it wasn't until I saw the naming algorithms that I was all in. Part of the reason is vertigo. I got vertigo working on this post. My thinking is, and this is somewhat speculative and somewhat evidentiary, that there were two maybe three "sets" or mises on scene if you will to the Boston Bombing Hoax. Everything is fine with the camera pointed down the home stretch; it all looks Boston Marathony. But swing the cameras perpendicular to the road, toward the bomb site, and that is a different story. That is why the first order of business was to tear down the set. Like with the NASA moon photos you can't have any stars or planets so that people can orient themselves; many flags, to extend the analogy, have planets, the Sun, and stars on them and we can't have that. The flags are the key.

Tearing down the set:



Flags near "bombing" counting from lampost behind man with hands up:


1.Brazil? 2.Russian Fed 3.not sure 4.Slovakia 5.same as Russian flag but with some kind of emblem 6.South Africa 7.Spain (Ambassador's Flag) 8.Blue/yellow/blue uncertain 9.Swiss 10.Tawain 11.red with black-uncertain 12.Ukraine 13.British

Below are all the flags from, roughly, the finish line to the end of the street which is basically all the flags on the finish line. I can't see the above pattern repeated and I don't know why the guy is circled:




thrice edited for bone-head errors!

Addendum Note girl in purple tank top running through the water table!

[anonjedi2]

Can you please elaborate?

[Lazlo]

I Don't Know If This Has Been Covered Elsewhere

The following, highlighted in green, is from a "flat file" list of the Boston Athletic Association (BAA), the organizer of the Boston Marathon and it is to establish the time of the winner of the Boston Marathon of 2013 and how the times are displayed.

Place: 1 Bib: 2 Name : Desisa, Lelisa Official Time: 2:10:22 State Country: ETH

Exact placement of info above in green differs from placement in the BAA data base for technical reasons.

Source: http://raceday.baa.org/top-finishers.html

From this we can determine the winners bib number is "2" and we can use this to plug into the BAA's relational data base and determine where they put the "winning time" as it is not listed as such but as "Official Time." Which is a little confusing.

BAA's Relational Data Base: http://www.baa.org/races/boston-maratho ... earch.aspx

Our next goal is to find out who the mo' fo' is that is lying on the ground, in the picture below, and what his bib number is. We can see in the photo, clearly, a terminal "00" a number I like to refer to as "buckshot" for some reason. Fortunately, the Boston Herald supplies us with the bib number, belonging to Bill Iffrig , as 19200. Source, Boston Herald: http://news.msn.com/us/runner-knocked-d ... -to-finish

Bill Iffrig, Bib №19200:



We plug in Bill's bib № into the relational data base of BAA to determine his overall time or "ETs" as the drag racers say and get the time of: Offl. Time 4:03:47 . The "Offl. Time" is taken from the same data base field that the winner, Desisa's time is listed. I am being cautious about describing this as, to me, it is a quirky nomenclature as all times for mile marks are official.

Then we look at the video below and find that our Bill is still running toward the finish line after he should have been well past it. As we say in the American South: he should have been done finished! Now, we have to ask ourselves why an old bastard like that would want to jack with his peeps like that?

Note time at 12 second mark in video of 4 hr 9 minutes and 43 seconds


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzNjFerltPo

[Lazlo]

Can you please elaborate?

Are you talking to me; are you talking to me? I couldn't tell. Anyway, take the "set" of flags that equal 1.Brazil? 2.Russian Fed 3.not sure 4.Slovakia 5.same as Russian flag but with some kind of emblem 6.South Africa 7.Spain (Ambassador's Flag) 8.Blue/yellow/blue uncertain 9.Swiss 10.Tawain 11.red with black-uncertain 12.Ukraine 13.British) in the top photo and try to find a match, or intersection ∩, in the universe of all flags on the same side of the street: I don't think it can be done. Also, note the post below yours detailing the "fallen runner" Bill Iffrig whose elapsed time on the video doesn't match his official time for finishing the race. These clocks have to be accurate with at least $575,000 in purses to say nothing of shoe contracts and other endorsements. My thinking is that the "movie set" of the Boston Hoax was "redressed" a couple of times and maybe as many as four or five times with poor continuity between takes. My goal, or what I would like to do, is to find discrete "landmarks" where the bombing took place to compare and contrast them original photos of the real race (like when Lelisa Desisa won) but problems ensue because those kinds of photos are more portrait oriented than landscape oriented because they are more interested in capturing the runner's spirit than they are the atmosphere of the race like in the example below:




Edit: spelling

[simonshack]

We plug in Bill's bib № into the relational data base of BAA to determine his overall time or "ETs" as the drag racers say and get the time of: Offl. Time 4:03:47 .

Then we look at the video below and find that our Bill is still running toward the finish line after he should have been well past it.

Exquisite find, Lazlo. So that Bill iffrig oldtimer should have been WAY past the finish line at 4:09:43 - as we see him collapsing (top down) "due to the bomb's shockwave"...

[Lazlo]

We plug in Bill's bib № into the relational data base of BAA to determine his overall time or "ETs" as the drag racers say and get the time of: Offl. Time 4:03:47 .

Then we look at the video below and find that our Bill is still running toward the finish line after he should have been well past it.

Exquisite find, Lazlo. So that Bill iffrig oldtimer should have been WAY past the finish line at 4:09:43 - as we see him collapsing (top down) "due to the bomb's shockwave"...

Thanks, Simon. My goal, on setting out, was to find convergences and divergences in photographs of the real marathon and the fake bombing. The problem is that the real event is personalty driven and the pictures are different. It is hard to gauge track conditions at the Indy 500 when you are looking at a picture of Mario Andretti, garlanded with flowers, surrounded by hot babes and holding a trophy and a bottle of Champagne. My thinking is that the "set" at the marathon bombing was redressed several times with little thought to continuity. Comparing the real event to the staged bombing event is hard, however, because. as in the Andretti example, the real event is focused on the languishing athletes and not the environment. In attempting to find divergences, I happily stumbled onto a convergence in the fact that that old bastard Iffrig actually did run in the marathon and was clocked.

[XQB]

This is hilarious! Boston vicsim Adrianne Haslet-Davis (graceful dancer with the world's first bionic leg ) storms off of fellow perp NBC's Meet the Press set, because she made them promise not to use the 2 sim bombers' names while interviewing her. NBC used their names anyway...this brought Adrianne to fake tears, causing her to walk bionically limp off the set.

Mission accomplished: public outrage and backlash against the big bad media monsters and a massive outpouring of sympathy via social media for the vicsim, all the while reinforcing credibility towards the staged bombing, vicsims, and sim bombers.

http://news.yahoo.com/boston-bombing-wh ... 28451.html

[pov603]

[quote="Lazlo"]Bear With Me Please



One thing that now strikes me about the image above [which I've seen previously on here many times] is how 'varied' the runners are considering it is 5k 'in' after 32m 31s i.e. there are some strikingly 'unfit' people running side by side with fairly 'fit' looking people.

See the three girls [one in the blue vest just right of the blue/white pole/barrier and the two people either side of her] compared to some of the others.

As I've never partook of anything such as this I have no knowledge of whether this would be the case or not, can anyone offer an informed opinion please?

[guivre]

Different age groups, wheelchair athletes, genders, for these large races can have staggered start times. The smaller the race the fewer start times. Boston is also considered an elite event, you have to qualify for it with a specific time run in the last year, no matter what age or disability you have.

Though I run, I don't run in marathons, so I don't want to pretend to be an expert. I know that the logic behind it has a lot to do with bottle-necking/control/pace, etc. I'm sure this board has a marathoner or two who can explain this better.

[anonjedi2]

[icarusinbound]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -duty.html

Boston cop, 28, set to receive bravery award after being wounded in shootout with marathon bombers, dies from 'brain aneurysm' while on duty
By Louise Boyle and Snejana Farberov Published: 19:06, 11 April 2014 | Updated: 15:31, 12 April 2014

Officer Dennis 'DJ' Simmonds suffered a medical emergency in the gym at the Boston police academy. Officer Simmonds, 28, had sustained a head injury when one of the bombing suspects threw an explosive device at him. Simmonds family said becoming a police officer was his lifelong dream. His father Dennis Simmonds Sr suggested his son may have died from a brain aneurism. Simmonds was set to be honored by President Obama next month.

The father of a 28-year-old police officer who died Thursday while working out at a gym said his son may have suffered a fatal brain aneurism less than a year after he was wounded in a gun battle with the Boston Marathon suspects.

Officer Dennis O. Simmonds was on duty at around 1.30pm and in the police academy gym on his lunch break when he suffered a medical emergency, police spokesman Sgt. Michael McCarthy said. The officer was rushed from the Boston police academy in Hyde Park to hospital where he died after attempts to resuscitate him.

No official cause of death has been released in connection to the 28-year-old's medical emergency. On April 19 last year, Officer Simmonds was involved in the shooting with the Boston marathon bombers in Watertown, Massachusetts.
One of the suspects threw an explosive at him causing the officer to suffer a head injury
from the blast

Also, since a year is up since the...event took place, it's being commemorated
http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/10 ... n-bombings