Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby simonshack on Tue May 07, 2013 2:22 pm

kickstones wrote: The video was shot by Ryan Hoyme who was seated in a grandstand opposite where the first bomb detonated. Following the two explosions the emergency services evacuated the area and tended to the wounded. Boston Marathon Explosion: Second Bomb Blast on May 01, 2013 in Boston, MA (Footage by Barcroft Media/Getty Images)


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This Ryan Hoyme (aka "Massagenerd") has it posted on his own YT channel (over 800.000views so far):
UPLOADED ON APRIL 15, 2013 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-HKg5yc-uk

Of course, Ryan Hoyme became an overnight TV star - and got interviewed by Katie-guess-who-Couric. Ryan's silly script includes the preposterous line that "we initially thought it was actually fireworks" (a line he keeps reiterating in other articles/interviews)... Also, his other line ("it really didn't sink in - until the other bomb hit") is equally stoopid. We are talking about a 12-second timelapse, for chrissakes! And what about his statement that, referring to the blast, "it wasn't as loud as you think it would be, you know, that kind of thing" ? Good grief...


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqBWoLoXzik


Now, "Ryan's" video is also on the Barcroft Media YT channel - and was uploaded there on the same day:
UPLOADED ON APRIL 15, 2013 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X2RFLS-jlk


The funny thing is, Barcroft Media is actually credited as "the filmmaker", in the video description at this Getty page: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video ... /167985135

So who/what is Barcroft Media, you may ask?
About Barcroft Media http://www.barcroftmedia.com/index.php? ... 0679226436
Barcroft Media are an international media content company based in London, England. Founded by Sam Barcroft in 2003, we specialise in covering the amazing side of life [indeed - check out what sort of 'amazing' stuff they have on their YT channel...]. Our company delivers editorial words, pictures and footage to clients across the globe. We represent a large network of content creators, and market their material to publications, websites and broadcasters in over fifty countries.

The Barcroft newsroom contains some of the UK’s best picture, news and features editors, all recruited from national newspapers, top press agencies and leading magazines.

Barcroft Media carry out assignments for major clients across the globe every day.

 We offer a range of price packages tailored to suit our clients and their needs.

 Our main services are as follows:

Photography
Text
Image and PR Consultancy
Video
Editing
Production
Post Production



So I guess Ryan's "amateur video" which he says he "handed over to the FBI and the Homeland Security", not only managed to get sent over to London on the same day of the event - but both himself and Barcroft Media were allowed to immediately upload this "Zapruder footage" on Youtube ? Wow. The FBI and the DHS must have drastically softened up in later years! :P :rolleyes:
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby Libero on Tue May 07, 2013 2:57 pm

It looks like Mr. Feinberg has returned.


'One Fund Boston administrator Kenneth Feinberg cites "enormous challenges" because of number and nature of casualties.'

'Kenneth Feinberg, who handled compensation for victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and the 2010 Gulf Coast oil spill, explained to about 200 victims and family members how he would assess needs and disburse money from The One Fund Boston.

The fund has raised more than $28 million so far, including $11 million from the public and $17 million from corporate donors. That far exceeds money raised for victims of other mass tragedies, Feinberg noted: $11 million for the Newtown school massacre, $7 million for the Virginia Tech shootings and $5 million for the Aurora, Colo., theater rampage.'

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... d/2139323/
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby simonshack on Tue May 07, 2013 3:42 pm

Libero wrote:It looks like Mr. Feinberg has returned.

ImageYikes!Image

For those unfamiliar with the "pay czar": viewtopic.php?p=2377445#p2377445
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby JLapage on Tue May 07, 2013 3:48 pm

Please check this video out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgUUm8mcqzs
Arredondo (the cowboy 'hero') can be seen near the end of the video at about 2:27. That's a good 2.5 minutes after the so called bomb went off, he is standing on the street by where the crowd had gathered. So from this video we know for sure that Arredondo had not had access to Jeff Boom Boom Bautman. According to my calculations Baumann should have either passed out if not nearly dead at that moment.

Also, what is the deal with the flags which start fluttering right before the 'explosion'? We know it is not windy as can be witnessed by the flags further down (on the right side) and those shown at 0:30 to 0:33 which are still . <_<
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby Maat on Tue May 07, 2013 4:05 pm

Kickstones,

Did you notice the tannoy you spotted before in (possibly) real pre-"bomb" shots, is also nowhere to be seen in this faked "amateur" vid either?
[ref viewtopic.php?p=2383840#p2383840]

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http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video ... /167985135
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby upstream on Tue May 07, 2013 4:07 pm

This is one of the top stories today in Toronto:

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A sign held by a Maple Leafs fan outside the Air Canada Centre on Monday has triggered an avalanche of online outrage.

Before Monday night's Game 3 between the Maple Leafs and Boston Bruins, photos surfaced online of a Leafs holding a sign that read "Toronto Stronger."

The message is a direct reference to "Boston Strong," a campaign that became a mantra in that city after the Boston Marathon bombings. The April 15 explosions killed three people and injured more than 260.

Shortly after the sign appeared, it triggered an angry response on Twitter, with many saying the sign was in bad taste in light of the Boston attacks.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2013/05/07/toronto-stronger-leafs-twitter-outrage.html
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby simonshack on Tue May 07, 2013 4:42 pm

Libero wrote:It looks like Mr. Feinberg has returned.


'One Fund Boston administrator Kenneth Feinberg cites "enormous challenges" because of number and nature of casualties.'

'Kenneth Feinberg, who handled compensation for victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and the 2010 Gulf Coast oil spill, explained to about 200 victims and family members how he would assess needs and disburse money from The One Fund Boston.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... d/2139323/


Ok, let's do some simple maths now... (assuming that there really were 264 wounded and 3 dead in Boston, as stated by Wickedpedia).

Feinberg says he has $28 million to distribute. He then states that:

"Feinberg said last week that his proposal will include payments of over $1 million to each of the families of people who died in the blasts and those who lost more than one limb. He said about a dozen victims who lost a single limb would receive amounts approaching $1 million under his preliminary proposal."

So right there we have 3+12=15 (3 families of dead loved ones + 12 families of amputees) who will chip away at least $15million from the $28million compensation fund.

That leaves us with $13million. If we subtract the 12 amputees from the total figure of 264 injured, we get 252. We then divide $13 million by 252 and we get:

less than $52,000 !

Hey, families of the Boston victims - rebel !!!
Mr Feinberg is trying to short-change you all !!!
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"The average award for families of victims killed in the 9/11 attacks exceeded $2 million. The average award for injured victims was nearly $400,000."
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9 ... ilies.html


*****

But hey, for 50 grand you can always buy yourself a cool racing simulator, such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDgzei2uruc
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby brianv on Tue May 07, 2013 4:44 pm

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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby Starbucked on Tue May 07, 2013 4:47 pm

Dave McGowan, author of 'Wagging the Moondoggie'
has weighed in with his own take things:

Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man with the L-Shaped Leg
May 1, 2013


"The Boston Marathon bombing incident produced an exceedingly bloody, gore-filled scene. We know that because virtually all avenues of the mainstream media, as was obvious from the very first reports, wanted us to know that. Never before can I recall seeing so many blood-soaked images being so prominently displayed. Newspapers and network and cable news broadcasts seemed to be on a mission to bring you the bloodiest, most graphic images they could come up with.

The most disturbing of those images, by far, all involved a guy who had reportedly just had both of his legs blown off. The most heavily circulated and iconic of those images are of the legless guy being rolled away from the scene in a wheelchair, his unbelievably graphic wounds uncovered and on full display for the waiting cameras. That did not happen by accident. As it turns out, not only were his injuries quite obviously fake, they were specifically tailored for that high-profile wheelchair ride....."

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr114.html
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby Maat on Tue May 07, 2013 5:13 pm

Starbucked wrote:Dave McGowan, author of 'Wagging the Moondoggie'
has weighed in with his own take things:

Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man with the L-Shaped Leg
May 1, 2013

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr114.html

McGowan wrote:... the evidence is quite overwhelming that the no-legs guy, and his two apparent accomplices, were in fact actors....
I need to be very clear here in stating that I am not arguing that no one was injured in the attack and that there was no real suffering. That is clearly not the case.

Finally, maybe more will begin to see through this insidious, shit-shovelling spinmeister that I suspected from the first time I read his bait-laced ramblings. <_<
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby analucia on Tue May 07, 2013 7:02 pm

So, I have a few questions for Ryan Hoyme and his footage.
1. How did he have time to edit footage and upload to the internet on the same day as the event, all while negotiating syncing and licensing rights with Barcroft Media and Getty Images AND sharing this footage with DHS/FBI?
2. How did he manage to produce footage with not one recognizable face in the entire clip? And part two, I think if a bomb were going off, I would be more inclined to film what was happening and documenting real injuries rather than bleachers and tops of flags with smoke swirling around. What exactly the hell were you doing?
3. It's interested they let you share this video with the public, as this contrived footage seems to contradict the photos put out by Getty Images and Aaron Tran, I submit around :37-:40, we can clearly see the images don't match the photos of that video/photographer walkway and where it was in relation to the building. Or was this purposeful, put out to the public to create more debate and dissent among all the folks who wish to analyze the footage?
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby omaxsteve on Tue May 07, 2013 8:47 pm




Leads to this photo:

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Brian, I am not sure what the FotoForensics error level analysis is meant to show, or even of its reliable: I found another website with (seemingly) the same picture and here's what I got. If the picture is not the original, in other words someone may have scanned or resized it before publishing it on the web, how can we tell if the ELA is showing tampering in the picture itself or in the uploading/resizing process? I am also wondering why it is that almost every picture has little , if any, of the metadata, such as the original date of the photo, the last edited date, etc.
Is that something that is automatically stripped out, or is the lack of the meta data, in itself, a sign of "tampering?"

original:
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ELA

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regards,

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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby sunshine05 on Tue May 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Maat wrote:
Starbucked wrote:Dave McGowan, author of 'Wagging the Moondoggie'
has weighed in with his own take things:

Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man with the L-Shaped Leg
May 1, 2013

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr114.html

McGowan wrote:... the evidence is quite overwhelming that the no-legs guy, and his two apparent accomplices, were in fact actors....
I need to be very clear here in stating that I am not arguing that no one was injured in the attack and that there was no real suffering. That is clearly not the case.

Finally, maybe more will begin to see through this insidious, shit-shovelling spinmeister that I suspected from the first time I read his bait-laced ramblings. <_<



Yes, I don't understand why people go on and on about a certain aspect of an event that is obviously faked but then say "I'm not saying there are no victims". It isn't logical that anyone would fake just a part of it.
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby I, Gestalta on Tue May 07, 2013 10:46 pm

omaxsteve wrote:



Leads to this photo:

http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... a&size=600

Brian, I am not sure what the FotoForensics error level analysis is meant to show, or even of its reliable: I found another website with (seemingly) the same picture and here's what I got. If the picture is not the original, in other words someone may have scanned or resized it before publishing it on the web, how can we tell if the ELA is showing tampering in the picture itself or in the uploading/resizing process? I am also wondering why it is that almost every picture has little , if any, of the metadata, such as the original date of the photo, the last edited date, etc.
Is that something that is automatically stripped out, or is the lack of the meta data, in itself, a sign of "tampering?"

original:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... g&size=600

ELA

http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... a&size=600

regards,

Steve O.



The image you used was at a 100% JPEG quality level (not actually a jpeg, though), which is almost useless for an error level analysis. You have to compress the image by re-saving it multiple times, after which the compression levels will be easier to differentiate between.

Hope that helps.

edit: removed embed code.
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Re: Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

Unread postby MrSinclair on Wed May 08, 2013 2:01 am

MrSinclair wrote:There has been no mention in this thread of MBTA cop Richard Donahue, allegedly shot the same night as MIT cop Sean Collier.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/lo ... to_recover

Today I was in a shop I frequent south of Boston and the owner was having a bake sale for this cop. I've known her for awhile and we were speaking on the subject. She told me that her husband, whom she has mentioned in the past as a cop, went to the police academy with Donahue. Of course this caught my interest. I asked if her husband had been in to see him and she said no visitors were yet allowed other than family. I said "gee, with all the celebrities and athletes visiting Baumann and the others with legs blown off ( :wacko: ) you would think he too could be getting visits."

I thought about it and it may be possible that this individual is not a sim. He was quite tangential to the main story and there have been local stories alluding to his injuries being the result of friendly fire.

http://winchester.patch.com/articles/au ... e-d2a04dde

The fact that he claims to know Sean Collier raises a red flag for me. Still , it is hard for me to conceive of the woman, a small business owner for ten years in my town, deliberately making up a story of personal contact between her husband and this other cop.
I wonder if anyone has examined this part of the story and drawn any conclusions about Donahue?


More on Richard Donahue and the friendly fire story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -FIRE.html
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