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All Coronavirus Deaths in Hungary, 1st of April, 2020
Index Gender Age Chronic diseases
1 Female 76 cardiovascular
2 Female 65 cancer
3 Male 74 cardiovascular
4 Male 79 cardiovascular
5 Male 68 cardiovascular
6 Female 41 hypertension
7 Male 38 chronic pancreatitis, alcoholic liver damage
8 Male 53 cardiovascular
9 Female 90 aortic stenosis, coronary artery disease, hypertension, atrial fibrillation
10 Male 75 hypertension
11 Male 80 no data
12 Male 73 coronary artery disease, encephalopathy, hepatopathy, vasoconstriction, hypothyroidism
13 Female 86 tuberculosis,lymphocytic colitis,pulmonary embolism,Hashimoto's thyroiditis,dermatomyositis,Diabetic polyneuropathy,deep vein thrombosis,
14 Male 92 allergic asthma, stroke, pacemaker
15 Male 94 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
16 Female 59 renal transplant, diabetic, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, coronary artery disease, hypertension
17 Female 86 hypertension
18 Female 67 coronary artery disease, hypertension
19 Male 66 cardiovascular disease, chronic rheumatic heart disease, degenerative spine disease
20 Male 91 cardiovascular disease, hypertension, chronic rheumatic heart disease, cerebrovascular diseaseLast night, a doctor I have known for 20 years told me, spontaneously, on the phone that "moronavirus" death certificates are getting issued for patients who die of entirely different causes. When this happens, I am told, the family has no access to the body, there is no autopsy, and no wake is allowed before the interment.THE MIRACLE OF THE CORONAVIRUS!
Today, talking to my brother Ozorio, who is also a doctor, we realized that suddenly no one dies anymore, everyone has become immortal overnight. The only death admitted is from coronavirus. Humanity has become immortal. What a beautiful dream. The sensationalist, venal and dishonest press hides death and shows us a single monster: the coronavirus. This one kills, the rest does not exist. Deaths from any other disease disappeared.
They even say that there is a governor prohibiting people from dying from a cause other than coronavirus. I talk to my brother and ask. Are we really immortal? That we are chosen by God to die only from one cause? Well, for my part, I believe in God, but I don't believe what the press says about our sudden immortality. Even my brother doesn't believe it. So let's see: Brazil records 200 cases of tuberculosis per day, and there were 4,881 deaths from tuberculosis in 2019 alone. These all stopped when the coronavirus arrived: a miracle! But as Brazil is a country of miracles, the same happened with dengue fever: Brazil registered 332,397 cases of dengue in the first 10 weeks of 2020 (until March 7) with 77 deaths. But with the arrival of the coronavirus, dengue fever fled to the bush and no one else is dying of dengue fever. Isn't it a real miracle? These are official data, anyone has access to (except journalists). We wondered, has malaria disappeared as well? Yellow fever, schistosomiasis, infectious diarrhea, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, accidents? We have suddenly become the most immortal people on the planet. How wonderful! Nobody gets appendicitis anymore! (if you do, you cannot get operated because the ventilator is reserved for the coronavirus). We are immortal.
For 24 hours a day our news reports only report deaths from the coronavirus, the magical virus that has cured all other diseases and taken on the task of killing humanity all by itself. And it soon found allies, a press that was morally and economically bankrupt, unscrupulous rulers thinking about the next election and a people idiotized by 20 years of indoctrination. The result of these 3 factors has been wonderful: immortality. In forty years of medicine, 20 as a professor, I have never seen so many ignorant people in the field of epidemiology being interviewed, so many lies being told as truth, so many people being deceived by journalists and government officials. And when someone says something inconvenient on TV, they quickly interrupt the interview (Dr. Anthony Wong, for example). There is interest in terrifying the population, scripted interviews, scripted questions and answers, nothing may be said that differs from the script. And the people believe in these bastards! After the immortality of the Coronavirus has passed, ask me which has killed the most. The diseases mentioned above or this appalling, powerful and never before seen scourge of humanity: the coronavirus! It will be a great excuse for bad mayors and governors mired in debt to justify their theft and incompetence: blame the coronavirus! Everyone is taking advantage of the virus! But there is something that the coronavirus did not count on, something stronger than itself, more powerful, capable of bringing us back to the vulgarity of being human again, being mortal, this powerful thing is called hunger! Hunger will wake us up from the wonderful immortality that we now enjoy! Of course, our bills will also help show us how much they are lying to us. Those who live shall see!
Written by me, Prof. Dr. Honório Menezes, on Saturday night, March 28, with nothing to do, talking to my brother and enjoying immortality.
Scary since then there's no way of independently determining the cause of death if for example over-medication/malpractice is suspected.Last night, a doctor I have known for 20 years told me, spontaneously, on the phone that "moronavirus" death certificates are getting issued for patients who die of entirely different causes. When this happens, I am told, the family has no access to the body, there is no autopsy, and no wake is allowed before the interment.
Exactly, and over-medication can happen easily. As one doctor said, if you don't do anything you will be accountable later. if you treat the patient with whatever you can, even if the patient dies, nobody will blame you.patrix wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:41 amScary since then there's no way of independently determining the cause of death if for example over-medication/malpractice is suspected.Last night, a doctor I have known for 20 years told me, spontaneously, on the phone that "moronavirus" death certificates are getting issued for patients who die of entirely different causes. When this happens, I am told, the family has no access to the body, there is no autopsy, and no wake is allowed before the interment.
Not sure what this will yield. This way you can't tell exactly how many out of the 64 are infected, right? They probably use statistical methods. We already know, e.g. from the Iceland data or the Vo'Euganeo data, that in the asymptomatic population about 1-2 out of 100 will come up positive. Of course this also depends somewhat from how good the laboratory is. Bad laboratories are likely to find more. So mixing together these 64 samples means that they probably expect such a rate of 1-2% to occur, because if the rate was only a bit higher, every single batch of 64 people will come up positive. We also know that about 1% might be false positives (which means they'll test negative the next day), so this is a total delusion.alovas1980 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:21 pm They just put 64 samples together and test them for Coronavirus. So, if anyone is infected, it will show it. I think the number of infected people will soar.
That's what I suspected all along: People in need of care dying in their homes because no one was able to care for them due to testing, panic and lockdown. Still no sign of a killer virus.https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ wrote: In recent weeks, most of the Eastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the “emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers.
Many of these abandoned people then ended up after a few days in the hospitals, which had been permanently overloaded for years, because they were dehydrated, among other things. Unfortunately, the hospitals lacked the personnel who had to look after the children locked up in their apartments because schools and kindergartens had been closed. This then led to the complete collapse of the care for the disabled and the elderly, especially in those areas where even harder “measures“ were ordered, and to chaotic conditions.
The nursing emergency, which was caused by the panic, temporarily led to many deaths among those in need of care and increasingly among younger patients in the hospitals. These fatalities then served to cause even more panic among those in charge and the media, who reported, for example, “another 475 fatalities“. “The dead are being removed from hospitals by the army”, accompanied by pictures of coffins and army trucks lined up.
However, this was the result of the funeral directors‘ fear of the “killer virus“, who therefore refused their services. Moreover, on the one hand there were too many deaths at once and on the other hand the government passed a law that the corpses carrying the coronavirus had to be cremated. In Catholic Italy, few cremations had been carried out in the past. Therefore there were only a few small crematoria, which very quickly reached their limits. Therefore the deceased had to be laid out in different churches.
In principle, this development is the same in all countries. However, the quality of the health system has a considerable influence on the effects. Therefore, there are fewer problems in Germany, Austria or Switzerland than in Italy, Spain or the USA. However, as can be seen in the official figures, there is no significant increase in the mortality rate. Just a small mountain that came from this tragedy.
That could be used to produce many negative results quicker: if the pool of 64 samples isn't detected to be positive, it'll be seen as 64 negatives and won't be retested individually. Could be used for an exit, just a speculation on my part.alovas1980 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:21 pm They just put 64 samples together and test them for Coronavirus. So, if anyone is infected, it will show it. I think the number of infected people will soar.
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www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-study/israeli-defense-ministry-launches-covid-19-voice-test-study-idUSKBN21B2YVThere are articles about this situation in the German press and alarms are being sounded that it'll be a very serious problem if the Eastern European 24/7 care worker won't come anymore. Travelling has gotten difficult, and in some countries they have to go into 14-day self-isolation after they return from abroad. The EU is looking into negotiating a solution so that these carerusty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:59 pmhttps://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ wrote: In recent weeks, most of the Eastern EuropeanEastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the “emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers.
That is a good question as well. So there are all those who are infected but have no symptoms. Can it be determined for how long they've been infected? Day 1 or 2 or day 14, after which they can't infect others anymore. Probably just better be on the safe side and quarantine for 14 days in any case.rusty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:59 pm I mean, anyway, what do virologists expect when they test healthy people? They want to find "silent carriers". But for how long are you expected to be such a "carrier"? How long and how much will the virus replicate until it is stopped dead in its tracks? How long will it take the body to get rid of the accumulated "viral load"? This is total bollocks.