The CORONAVIRUS circus

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Newsbender
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Mansur wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:40 am 'Expose' - to whom? For those who actually watch the video, there is nothing new in it. Not because the normal media consumer is fed by other channels, but because practically everyone has heard about this stuff, thanks to the many-many references made in the mainstream. So, though it can't say anything new - it can very well steer or divert real questions in real persons, which may be right in the process of assimilation, from its natural directions.
A perfectly valid question, Mansur! Let me elaborate. I think we, generally, (we here at CF and the truth community* as a whole) tend to underestimate the potential value, albeit of a limited nature, of gatekeepers. Gatekeepers exist primarily because TPTSB know a certain percentage of the population is on the verge of "waking up" and they produce these glossy videos to "lead them down the garden path", so to speak, and make us look ridiculous by association.

However, these videos can still serve as an effective point of entry for many people. Most members of the truth community I speak to were woken up by people like Alex Jones, who is (now) obviously controlled opposition. I woke up through watching stuff like Loose Change, again obvious controlled opposition, but it served a purpose in getting me off mainstream narratives and started me on a journey towards alternative media. My first foray into discovering the Apollo missions were a deception was Jarrah White, (now) an obvious shill for the system. But he served his purpose in waking a lot of people up about the nature of NASA, although he now actually works for them I believe (!).

I sent the link to Died Suddenly to a bunch of people on the fence and most of them watched it, and gave me positive feedback. Its glossy, high-concept production may ring alarm bells for us, but it is an approachable format for those who are still (incredibly) weaned on mainstream news. It may be limited in information for the likes of us, but there is a lot there for newcomers to digest. Think of it like a TV show for kids who are learning to read and write. Elementary stuff, but about the right pace for some people.

*For the record, I don't like the phrase "truth community", but I can't think of a better one. It isn't much of a community as it is so fragmented with division, but I dislike the term "truther" as well.
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antipodean wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:49 pm This is an extremely depressing watch.
There was still plenty of time for this baby to receive direct donor unvaccinated blood from 20 plus donors.
But the State thought otherwise as it continues to protect it's Covid vaccination narrative.
https://rumble.com/v1znlny-baby-will-me ... pping.html
https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/baby-wil ... pped-vid:8

They have now apparently taken away the baby but I must say I think the whole thing is a bit weird. Maybe I am a bit strange but if someone would threaten to take away my baby, I would go apeshit and smash a few facediaper wearing nazis. It is not a stretch to consider this is all scripted and baby Will is just a Willing participant, there to create a bigger divide in an already divided world.
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Nefilimp wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:13 am
antipodean wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:49 pm This is an extremely depressing watch.
There was still plenty of time for this baby to receive direct donor unvaccinated blood from 20 plus donors.
But the State thought otherwise as it continues to protect it's Covid vaccination narrative.
https://rumble.com/v1znlny-baby-will-me ... pping.html
https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/baby-wil ... pped-vid:8

They have now apparently taken away the baby but I must say I think the whole thing is a bit weird. Maybe I am a bit strange but if someone would threaten to take away my baby, I would go apeshit and smash a few facediaper wearing nazis. It is not a stretch to consider this is all scripted and baby Will is just a Willing participant, there to create a bigger divide in an already divided world.
I would say that the whole situation is organic (not scripted), I was outside the Auckland High Court on Tuesday.
It would appear that the baby's operation went ahead using unvaccinated blood. There is quite a lot of information still unfolding on a couple of Telegram channels.

Anyone interested in this without trying to lazily write it off as a psyop should read through the court proceedings.
Also the footage of the baby being up lifted, was filmed by someone I know.

https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/assets/c ... IAaJMD41WA

Whilst outside the High Court on Tuesday, the advocate for the family Liz Gunn, mentioned about an odd submission being made by the medical experts to classify baby Will as actually being 6 months old, because he was born 2 months premature. (6 months being the new min. age to vax a baby) My calculation using the same logic would make baby Will 2 months old.

Now according to the Court proceedings, it's official Will is now 6 months old.
[4] Baby W is a six month old boy. He has been diagnosed with a congenital heart defect. He has a severe obstruction to the outflow tract of his right ventricle (the pulmonary valve allowing blood to flow from the heart to the lungs). This severe obstruction is causing increased thickening, known as hypertrophy, of his right ventricle. His heart condition has become more severe over his six months of life. He has a gradient in his right ventricular outflow tract that is over three times the normal pressure.
Here are the parents greeting supporters outside of the Hospital late yesterday afternoon.
https://rumble.com/v1zq1m2-statement-by ... -2022.html
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Uh yeah, antipodean, you are right that nobody should say 'hoax or no hoax' based upon a video in which everything seems scripted and the parents behave in a weird way. Yet, in this strange world, you should keep that option open and the way you describe everything as real is also, let's say, a bit naive. Then reading court procedings is as if you are reading a book in which Fauci explains why a virus is real and very dangerous, interesting but in the end something that comes from the belly of the system and the system is not known for honesty. You have never heard of fake trials, a kangaroo court?
Liz Gunn is a former television presenter from New Zealand.[1][2] Gunn began her TV career on the TVNZ show "Sunday", then moved to Radio New Zealand. In 2001 she quit in the middle of hosting a show.[3] Gunn moved to Australia, before returning to NZ in 2011.

During the 2020s she became a leader in the anti-vaccination movement in NZ, and championed conspiracy theories about the covid-19 vaccination causing harm. [4][5][6] She was a leader and spokesperson in the 2022 protests occupying New Zealand parliament grounds.[7]

In December 2022 she was the spokesperson for parents who refused to allow their child to have a blood transfusion using blood donations from vaccinated people.
99 out of 100 of these leaders of anti-establishment turn out to be wolves in sheepsclothing, there to push a script along. So, to make it clear, I am not saying that it's a show performed to teach the peasants that they should not even dare to stand up for their rights, I am saying I would not be suprised if it was. Time will tell. In the mean time I just point out oddities and write about my gut feeling.
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Nefilimp wrote:
They have now apparently taken away the baby but I must say I think the whole thing is a bit weird. Maybe I am a bit strange but if someone would threaten to take away my baby, I would go apeshit and smash a few facediaper wearing nazis. It is not a stretch to consider this is all scripted and baby Will is just a Willing participant, there to create a bigger divide in an already divided world.
I saw that vid and thought the same thing, scripted. “Apeshit” would be a good description.
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The timeline of events is interesting.
The Judge awarded guardianship of the baby to the hospital at 6.00pm on Wednesday.

In her wisdom Liz Gunn then decided to broadcast a link up with paediatric cardiologist experts in the States, who said the op could still wait for 6 weeks. This would have been the reason for the hospital tresspassing her.
(They don't like being told how to do their job. Having myself been admitted as a patient for 2 nights in the same hospital earlier in the year. On 2 seperate occasions I had 2 different Doctors come to my bed side trying to persuade me to get vaccinated)
Earlier on Wednesday the father donates his own blood, as well as other 'clean' blood being made available for the op.
At about 11.00pm on Thursday, the baby is taken away for pre operation tests not the actual operation, which would explain why the parents didn't go totally 'Apeshit'.
The operation is performed sometime on Friday, prior to the parents greeting supporters late Friday afternoon.

The gov. are desperatly clinging on to their 'you must be vaccinated' narrative.
My reading of it is the Gov. folded and allowed unvaxed blood to be used.
Whilst all this is being played out making the headlines, the Gov. are busy passing new legislative Bills through Parliament.
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antipodean wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:18 am My reading of it is the Gov. folded and allowed unvaxed blood to be used.
If so, this sets an interesting precedent. This means the government is effectively admitting there is "something" in the blood of the vaccinated that distinguishes it from the unvaccinated, when the official story has always been that nothing of the product reaches the vascular system. I am curious as to how this will play out.
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Newsbender wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:16 am
antipodean wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:18 am My reading of it is the Gov. folded and allowed unvaxed blood to be used.
If so, this sets an interesting precedent. This means the government is effectively admitting there is "something" in the blood of the vaccinated that distinguishes it from the unvaccinated, when the official story has always been that nothing of the product reaches the vascular system. I am curious as to how this will play out.
I have a feeling that it is exactly what they want. Mainstream is now more and more allowed to question the narrative and it will lead to more angry people. Add to that the global financial meltdown, rising excess death, increasing infertility and the soon to be escalating war and all the cards are in play. It is the Hegelian dialectic and the end result will be that the people will agree with a world government and a digital currency that can be used according to how the government sees fit.
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Newsbender wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:53 am A perfectly valid question, Mansur!
I don’t know that - but the reasoning in the above post doesn’t seem valid at all. I guess, and sorry in advance for that, that the 'positive feedbacks' you mention, if they were expounded a bit here, might refute your claim. Would you recommend 'Loose Change' to anybody? You seem to recommend this 'Died Suddenly' because you do believe and support all the fear porn in it (in a very strange, 'exposing-skeptical' way). Where's the parallel? And isn't it possible btw. that your 'awakening process' (if by that we mean something real) has been considerably set back and delayed by watching things like LCh and AJ and their like? People watch this stuff, or rather are tempted to watch it, because they already have 'questions', unformulated though, but quite by themselves - as yourself are saying in the first paragraph of that post. Videos like this are in no way a source of genuine 'skepticism', but most categorically the opposite.

Nevertheless, it was very good, I think, that you brought this up, here, in relation to the corona circus, where there is so little mention of the rather complicated workings of the 'controlled opposition', but which is so extensively presented in relation to 9/11.

(Are you really thinking we are fellow 'truthers' here at CF? Consider yourself as one?)
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sykkelmannen wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:01 amI am becoming rather skeptical as to what extent one can help another to wake up. There are moments when someone tips you off, and you remember that. But was it really his genius or rather was it your maturity that opened a new path for you?

I can clearly remember the moment when a dear friend of mine raised my eyebrows by showing me a video about 9/11 (back in 2006). That same video we'd dismiss today as controlled opposition (presenting the planes and victims as real); but it did kickstart the process in me anyway.
Guess what, that very same dear friend of mine never moved beyond that point himself, and he buys the covid scare today hook, line and sinker.
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Mansur wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:41 pm
sykkelmannen wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:01 amI am becoming rather skeptical as to what extent one can help another to wake up. . . .
One must have an intransigent mindset or attitude of acknowledging and working to resolve any contradictions in one's perception of existence as they come across them.
So, yeah . . . .
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Mansur wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:09 pm Would you recommend 'Loose Change' to anybody?
Not now, no. But I did at the time. We live and learn!
Mansur wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:09 pm
(Are you really thinking we are fellow 'truthers' here at CF? Consider yourself as one?)
Depends on your definition of "truther" I guess - perhaps yours is different to mine. I mean it as any person or persons who genuinely attempt to expose media lies and government deception. In which case, yes, that is categorically in line with CF's "mission statement". Truther is merely an antonym of liar, and as I said, I dislike the term - but I don't know of a better one to define the disparate networks, channels and forums that are attempting to fight back against the deluge of deception we are faced with these days.
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Newsbender wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:28 am
Mansur wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:09 pm Would you recommend 'Loose Change' to anybody?
Not now, no. But I did at the time. We live and learn!
That is what I wanted to point out - that there may be some disruption possible here.
Newsbender wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:28 am
Mansur wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:09 pm
(Are you really thinking we are fellow 'truthers' here at CF? Consider yourself as one?)
Depends on your definition of "truther" I guess - perhaps yours is different to mine. I mean it as any person or persons who genuinely attempt to expose media lies and government deception. In which case, yes, that is categorically in line with CF's "mission statement". Truther is merely an antonym of liar, and as I said, I dislike the term - but I don't know of a better one to define the disparate networks, channels and forums that are attempting to fight back against the deluge of deception we are faced with these days.
I don't want to speak for anybody else, so I can only speak for myself: I am in no way a 'truther', whatever your definition.
If you might have a look in the 9/11 section, you might get some idea of who and what 'communities' are calling themselves 'truther' - and what the origin of the term is.
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I never said you were a "truther", as I've no idea what you are exactly. Except for needlessly and endlessly confrontational, that is.
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I assume that most readers and posters on this forum are known with the 'Event-201' simulation back in 2019. Well Bill and his friends recently organized another 'fictional' scenario like that, supposedly to take place in 2025.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oGfPt9AORA

source: https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org ... contagion/
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