9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

[hoi.polloi]

Clever backstopping again, perhaps.

Remember Steve Buscemi, Billy Crystal, Robert De Niro, Danny De Vito and the NBC crew -- there are a lot of big names who didn't "die" on 9/11 but who contribute significant celebrity support of the false paradigm.

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[Mercurial]

Re Steve brother of Neneh Cherry

Google search at a quick glance came up with nowt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neneh_Cherry

No Steve mentioned there, perhaps he's a long lost and never to be seen again brother.
Radio guy maybe just got it wrong (?)

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[enantiodromie]

It's another Don Cherry, not the free-jazz musician, but a swing singer from the fifties:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Cherry ... /golfer%29

http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/don_cherry_f1

"In 1993, he married Francine Bond Smith. They live in Las Vegas, Nevada. Don's son Stephen was a casualty of the 9/11 attacks when American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower. Stephen left behind four sons [1]"

[antipodean]

Just read the Legacy tributes, this vicsim is supposed to be the son of Don Cherry the 50s swing singer, who married a former miss America.
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/guestbo ... 215&page=3

[simonshack]

It's another Don Cherry, not the free-jazz musician, but a swing singer from the fifties:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Cherry ... /golfer%29

Well, now it's starting to make a little sense...

Apparently, that Don Cherry (in Las Vegas, Nevada) is a good old pal of country singer Willie Nelson - a prominent "9/11 truther":

Nelson questions the official story of what happened on September 11. On February 4, 2008, Nelson appeared on Alex Jones's radio show and talked about the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, stating his belief that the Twin Towers and WTC7 were imploded: "I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical. I said wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the casino in Las Vegas and you see these implosions all the time and the next one fell and I said hell there's another one - and they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it and I can't go along with that."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Nelson

Nelson is a member of the Tau Kappa Epsilon international fraternity - of which this is the ...ehrm ...'interesting' coat-of-arms :


Here is a shortlist I've compiled of some notable current and former Tau Kappa Epsilon members:
(selected from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ta ... n_brothers )
-Ronald Reagan
-Malcolm Forbes
-Gen. Joseph Ralston - Supreme Commander of NATO and Vice-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
-Col. Gerald P. Carr - NASA astronaut, Commander U.S. Skylab IV
-Steven W. Squyres - Principal investigator of the Mars Exploration Rover Mission & Chair of the NASA Space Science Advisory Committee
-Ryan Crocker - U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan, Lebanon, Kuwait, Syria, and Iraq
-Charles E. Whittaker - U.S. Supreme Court Justice
-Hoke L.Smith - President of Towson University (which stages fundraisers in memory of alleged former alumni "Honor Elizabeth Wainio")
http://www.towsonalumnimagazine.com/tow ... pg=28#pg28
-Willie Nelson
-Etc...

I'm sure Willie would know more about Don's lost son 'Stephen Patrick'. Maybe we should give him a call.


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Oh, and btw: There are 14 "Stephen Cherry" s listed in the SSDI in total. None of them with the middle name "P" (Patrick) and none deceased in 2001.

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[SmokingGunII]

Guys - this looks an interesting find. Facially, they are very similar.

http://letsrollforums.com/jennifer-mazz ... 24144.html

Haven't got time to check anymore out - what do you think, the donor story looks contrived to me?

[regex]

I don't know where I should put this but I hope I'm at the correct place.


Seriously, watch the statement of Mike Walter (also included in Septermber Clues) when he talks about what he has seen on 9/11 at the pentagon.

I pittily haven't found the time to find a high quality footage of his statement, but just for you go get an idea of what I am talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qouaq9GFtOk (0:50)
(You should check it out in high quality)

Now, check Walters skin, especially his forehead.

What are these brown and dark shadows in his face? They appear and then just suddenly disappear.
Is this any kind of error that appears when you convert one video format to another? I have never seen something like this before.

[JamieK]

Can someone please tell me the names of the "Hug-Me Clones" posted by simonshack in the thread "The possibility that nobody died"? From which memorial site were the pictures taken? I would like to compare them myself. Also, the pictures of Elizabeth Wainio with and without the objects in the background were taken from which memorials sites? Thanks.

[simonshack]

Can someone please tell me the names of the "Hug-Me Clones" posted by simonshack in the thread "The possibility that nobody died"? From which memorial site were the pictures taken? I would like to compare them myself. Also, the pictures of Elizabeth Wainio with and without the objects in the background were taken from which memorials sites? Thanks.

HOWARD KESTENBAUM
http://web.archive.org/web/201411170013 ... =975441520

MICHELLE SCARPITTA
http://wtc.technologyshoppe.com/profile.asp?Profile=45

"EDWARD `MARDO` JOSEPH MARDOVICH"
http://wtc.technologyshoppe.com/profile.asp?Profile=28

More to be found in the "technologyshoppe" link. Thanks for putting together a full collection of all the 'Hug-me Clones', Jamiek - most appreciated if you have time!

Also - check out these old posts of mine - MEMORIAL SCAMS: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2175768

[warriorhun]

Dear simonshack,

I expected at least somebody to comment on how elegantly I have busted the fake "Hungariam" vicsim's brother Paul Gyulaváry in their topic, but nobody seems to care . I bring it to your noble attention, that is one vicsim and family 100% proven faked. If there is one fake, there must be other fakes, and if there are other fakes, why not all? It may make your arguments stronger.

(BTW, sorry for opening the not media image fakery topic, but I was like, you are more experienced with video analisys, but I am sure what I see on it. I am experiencing the most outrageous media manipulation and reality-altering in Hungarian media in the case, and I use what I have learned here to understand reality, so thank you very much. But it is definitely not about media fakery, so your point in closing it is totally understandable.)

[Gary-Welz]

Simon Shack,

I saw your post about the Goldstein girls on the reality shack forum. Maybe you already know about this but the "real" Michelle Goldstein is an executive director of the Federal Affairs Office in Washington. Miss Goldstein is urging the senate to pass, how suprisingly, a 9/11 health bill.

"The House of Representatives passed the $7.4 billion bill in September, largely along party lines, with Democrats citing a moral obligation to help those who risked their lives after the Sept. 11 attacks and who contracted illnesses from breathing in toxic fumes, dust and smoke. Republicans said the program was too expensive. "

More billions to divide among the happy few.

“Nine-eleven was an attack on America, and there are sick responders from every state,” Michelle L. Goldstein, executive director of the city’s Federal Affairs Office in Washington, said Friday. “If the Senate doesn’t pass the bill this session, these brave men and women will have to wait even longer for the health care they so desperately need.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/13/nyreg ... onder.html

I think Michelle is worth every single penny, or is simply just one of those other coincidences?



http://web.archive.org/web/200810212334 ... eral.shtml

MONICA GOLDSTEIN
any relatives out there?


Hey, parents/relatives/friends of Monica Goldstein!!! Are you listening?

I'm Simon Shack and I would like to let you know that those idiots at "VOICES OF SEPTEMBER 11" have swapped your daughter's portrait with another (Michelle) Goldstein. are you going to do something about it? Or will you let the $1 billion 9/11 Memorial & Museum open their doors with the wrong picture of Monica under her name?

This whole affair is a friggin' joke - in bad taste. So are we to believe that in over 9 years the family/or friends of Monica Goldstein have not noticed that their loved one is misrepresented in the main 9/11 memorial website officially responsible for collecting the 9/11 victim's data for the upcoming MEMORIAL MUSEUM at Ground Zero??? Gimme a merciful break.

The ultimate irony of it all is that WE on this forum often get accused of "disrespecting the 9/11 victims" !

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