9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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Yet another trio of "911 WIDOWS" - interviewed by the ubiquitous 9/11 TV-witch Katie Couric (who dares quoting Shakespeare :rolleyes: ) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4zpHNXNqRg
Obligatory (dreadfully performed) weeping-moments at 2:47 - 5:53 - and 7:56

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The alleged husbands:
"Michael Zinzi - Marsh McLellan"______"Paul Acquaviva - Cantor Fitzgerald"_____"Jeremy Glick - Hero of Flight 93"
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ALISSA TORRES (yet another "9/11 WIDOW")
- and the cartoonified tale of her jumper-husband

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeyZ_Ylu3Rw

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Just like Courtney Acquaviva (see previous post) Alissa Torres was 7-8 months pregnant on 9/11 - with a Cantor Fitzgerald employee ( NOT listed in the CF memorial: http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... .jsp?LNL=T ) - the Colombian-born Eddie Torres... His first day of work in the WTC? Sept 10. 2001 ! <_<
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A gripping extract of Eddie Torres' tribute page on Legacy.com :
"His wife, Alissa, thinks she saw him in a photograph of the burning towers, standing at an open window, looking out over the rushing air as though ready to sky-dive from a plane. "If anyone could have calmly figured out how to get out of the towers from up high," she said, "it would have been him."
http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Story.aspx?PersonID=98348
EXACTLY HOW MUCH BULLCRAP ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PUT UP WITH, FOLKS? Now, next time anyone scoffs at you for doubting the reality of the 9/11 victims, tell him/her to spend a quiet sunday looking up the research material on this forum before discussing any further. There can be no excuse for a functioning human brain not to see through this transparent hoax. We have all been taken for a ride - and should all be able to recognize this simple fact.
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simonshack wrote:Btw, have we found the young Willy Rodriguez vicsim?...hmm
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I have spoken with a real person named Willy Rodriguez!

He isn't a vicsim.
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corsarino wrote:I have spoken with a real person named Willy Rodriguez!

He isn't a vicsim.
That seems like it might be a popular name! :D

Seriously though, I think Simon was implying that the 'Willy Rodriguez' character may have been inserted into the sim to remix some faces. We've seen weirder faces in the sim ... it would make sense that a 9/11 character such as Rodriguez, especially one allowed to run around telling a story of "being in the tower" when bombs went off, would be a controlled asset of the perps.
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corsarino wrote:I have spoken with a real person named Willy Rodriguez!
He isn't a vicsim.
No - he's unfortunately very much an existing clown(and probably the most comprehensively busted con-artist/911 gatekeeper and profiteer). What I meant to say, dear Corsarino, has to do with this particular issue:
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2350616

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brianv,
I take full responsibility for 'hijacking' this thread :lol:

Funny that picture of "Paul Battaglia" on board the MS Disney Magic. The ship travels from Miami to the Bahamas and Bermuda - kind of the sort of place you'd imagine the young Puerto Rican magician (and James Randi protégé) Willy Rodriguez would have performed...
http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/ ... gic_10.asp
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The Young Magician turned WTC janitor...
"William Rodríguez was a janitor at the North Tower of the World Trade Center during the September 11, 2001 attacks. (...) When Rodriguez was younger, he worked with magician James Randi, who refers to Rodriguez as "a long-time colleague". Randi describes some of Rodriguez's work in 2 books he has written. Rodriguez used the stage name "Roudy" and mentioned in an interview with Benjamin Smith of the New York Sun that he helped the Amazing Randi expose fraudulent faith healers and psychics. According to a December 2005 article published on the Internet, Rodriguez proved adroit at insinuating himself into the good graces of Randi's targets and eliciting incriminating information, and had previously been featured on television in Puerto Rico escaping from a chained straightjacket while hanging from a burning rope."
http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/ ... _assistant
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Intersting article excerpt - although the full article is only available if you register for a steep fee... :rolleyes:
The Jewish Week
09-28-2001
Rabbis Cautiously Affirm Deaths: Orthodox religious courts evaluate
testimony of witnesses before issuing certificates.

The city and state took steps this week to speed up the process of issuing
death certificates for those whose bodies have yet to be recovered from the
rubble of the World Trade Center. But an expert in Orthodox Jewish law said
that might not be sufficient for a rabbinic declaration of death.

"If someone's office was on the floor one of the planes crashed into, there
would still have to be proof the person was there,"
said Jay Levinson, who
until April was the disaster victim identification officer.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-79390257.html
"There would still have to be proof the person was there"...

Yah. I support that statement <_<
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Could Lukasz (the victim) be Lukasz (the truther) ?
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2350616

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Has anyone of you guys done a deeper research into the 16 people that survided inside the north tower when it collapsed?

I haven't found much about them yet, but a "documentary" today reminded me about them.

One of these survivors is: Pasquale Buzzelli
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simonshack wrote:*

Could Lukasz (the victim) be Lukasz (the truther) ?
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2350616

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Comments are welcome.
I saw him down on GZ while on a tourist visit, he seemed creepy. If not the one and only, PS tweaked, could be his dead twin or something. Either way, how do you get these people to join up and participate so readily? Money alone can't be enough, can it? Interesting the accusations of him pocketing donations:::a way of maybe making him seem needy like one would be if they were just a poor shlub attending community college at the same time volunteering his free time to a supremely noble cause. Vomit. PS-is he a pollak jew?
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jaytotale wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_survivors
After the collapse of the towers, only 23 survivors who were in or below the towers escaped from the debris, including 15 rescue workers

According to the wiki article, Genelle Guzman-McMillian was the last person to be found that survivded the wtc collapse.

Well, I went through some articles about her and found something interesting.
Finally, another rescuer found her other hand and they moved the rubble, pulled McMillan from it and placed her on a stretcher. As she was on the stretcher she opened her eyes and could see the sunlight. She could see Paul’s face now, and he was still holding on to her hand. She was rushed to the hospital where Roger met her. She asked him to find out more about Paul so when she was out of the hospital she could thank him. Many people were asked about Paul, but no one by that name was on the rescue team. A search went out, but Paul was never found.
http://www.moodyconferences.com/con_mai ... x?id=16216

Aew come on, Paul doesn't exist? The hero of New York that found the last person alive has never been to Ground Zero?

Seriously, where is Paul? :lol:
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What a surprise. As always, once we learn of a capability, the military has likely been using it for many, many years.
Revealed: Air Force ordered software to manage army of fake virtual people

These days, with Facebook and Twitter and social media galore, it can be increasingly hard to tell who your "friends" are.

But after this, Internet users would be well advised to ask another question entirely: Are my "friends" even real people?

In the continuing saga of data security firm HBGary, a new caveat has come to light: not only did they plot to help destroy secrets outlet WikiLeaks and discredit progressive bloggers, they also crafted detailed proposals for software that manages online "personas," allowing a single human to assume the identities of as many fake people as they'd like.

The revelation was among those contained in the company's emails, which were dumped onto bittorrent networks after hackers with cyber protest group "Anonymous" broke into their systems.

In another document unearthed by "Anonymous," one of HBGary's employees also mentioned gaming geolocation services to make it appear as though selected fake persons were at actual events.

"There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas," it said.
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As the text explains, the software would require licenses for 50 users with 10 personas each, for a total of 500. These personas would have to be "replete with background , history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographacilly consistent."

It continues, noting the need for secure virtual private networks that randomize the operator's Internet protocol (IP) address, making it impossible to detect that it's a single person orchestrating all these posts. Another entry calls for static IP address management for each persona, making it appear as though each fake person was consistently accessing from the same computer each time.

The contract also sought methods to anonymously establish virtual private servers with private hosting firms in specific geographic locations. This would allow that server's "geosite" to be integrated with their social media profiles, effectively gaming geolocation services.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e27522.htm
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Dear fbenario,

simply un-believable! :lol:
That, and they also use the social media to map social connections and behaviour patterns, group interactions, and for good old information gathering. No wonder I am not on Facebook or any of that shit-not as if I am up to mischief or anything. But imagine if your country is over-run by an invader, and you and your pals want to get the guerilla war going. Your insurgency is over in 10 minutes, period. That is the reason why I laugh out loud when I see a threatening "Al-Qaeda"-video: who on Earth with two brain cells would show their faces to the enemy with vast resourses to hunt down and punish you? When you hear in the news that a big part of Defense budget goes into "Cyber Defense", think on it hard what it is they are talking about. Bingo. ;)
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Hey - what if the military uses these identity-faking softwares to make up fictititous victims for their phony "Al-Qaeda" false-flag terror attacks? Hmm? That would be bloody outrageous ! :P

If this turns out to be the case, expect the Western populace to take to the streets and demand the immediate abdication of their vile and rogue rulers - as is happening now all over the Middle East! ;)
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