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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby SacredCowSlayer on Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:54 am

simonshack » October 11th, 2018, 6:01 pm wrote:
SacredCowSlayer wrote: I assume that “Exposing Mass Deceptions” will suffice?

Yes! :)


Simon,

I changed it to “Exposing Mass Deception” after contemplating how an “s” on the end of “Deception” seemed to potentially suggest a limit on the breadth and scope (which is indeed massive) of this very important topic. Plus it sounds better to me.

SCS :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby sharpstuff on Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:19 am

Dear SCS,
I am posting this reply here as more appropriate. Thank you for any corrections made to my post.

I am currently using eye-drops for intraocular hypertension prior to awaiting surgery for cataracts. I am 74 years young. I have to use high contrast to be able to read posts (and much of anything). This is not an excuse but fact.

Let me thank you also for the hard work you and others have put into the effort of getting Clues back on line. It was like missing an old friend and the only forum I ever visit.

Be well.
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby SacredCowSlayer on Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:33 am

sharpstuff » October 13th, 2018, 1:19 am wrote:Dear SCS,
I am posting this reply here as more appropriate. Thank you for any corrections made to my post.

I am currently using eye-drops for intraocular hypertension prior to awaiting surgery for cataracts. I am 74 years young. I have to use high contrast to be able to read posts (and much of anything). This is not an excuse but fact.

Let me thank you also for the hard work you and others have put into the effort of getting Clues back on line. It was like missing an old friend and the only forum I ever visit.

Be well.
Sharpstuff


Dear Sharpstuff,

It was (and is) my honor to be of assistance to you in such a way. The post is all yours.
I find you to be a thoughtful and kind person, and I enjoy your writings very much.

Thank you for your feedback so I will be confident when deciding whether to edit your posts in the future. Now, IF my edit (in any way) ever somehow fails to reflect what you were expressing, don’t hesitate to send me a Private Message here.

And of course, thank you for the kind words. I’m as relieved as just about anyone that things seem to be stabilized around here.

My Warmest Regards,

SCS
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby simonshack on Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:29 am

Dear Kham,

"The Art of Government" would also be a neat subtitle for our forum - although it may perhaps be slightly perplexing / unclear for newcomers as a general description of this forum's contents. We don't want anyone to misinterpret it as if we are into some Governmental Artistry... ! ^_^

Dear SCS, as it is, I actually also hesitated the other day about that final "s" - thinking it would sound better without it. So yes, "Exposing Mass Deception" is just perfect, imho. :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby SacredCowSlayer on Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:16 pm

simonshack » October 13th, 2018, 6:29 am wrote:Dear SCS, as it is, I actually also hesitated the other day about that final "s" - thinking it would sound better without it. So yes, "Exposing Mass Deception" is just perfect, imho. :)


Well Simon, to be fair, that “s” at the end of “Deception” took a back seat in my mind (initially) as I wondered just how to change the subtitle to begin with.

I’m glad it took me a couple of days to get to. By the time I figured out how, the “s” jumped out on the screen as nearly cringeworthy. The point is, you and I were already on the same page.

To me, this updated subtitle reflects a mature description of the organic continuum in which this research has, and will continue to methodically unfold over the years to come.

Thank you for prompting such a change. We are in agreement that it’s “just perfect” like this.

SCS :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby pov603 on Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:35 am

My apologies as this ended up being a much longer post that I anticipated.
Please feel free to chop/change/delete as Mods/Admins may deem appropriate.

LOCKERBIE

Just a bit random...I know that there is talk on this forum of establishing specific topics in order to "streamline" the information contained herein, which, due to its wealth and depth of topics is becoming increasingly difficult to search through.
We [or should I say I] have to appreciate that just because we are now in a world where everything is expected to be at your "beck and call" within seconds/minutes so the same should not be expected with the act of searching/researching i.e it does take some time and effort which probably people are becoming less and less likely to want to "invest" in.
Such is the age we live in at present.

Anyway, this is totally random and my post is mainly to do with the following:
On the BBC webpage yesterday i notice a story regarding Lockerbie and the "downing" of the PanAm jet .
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-45856000
For almost 30 years, a police officer who witnessed the aftermath of the Lockerbie bombing has been haunted by a single incident from a night of horror.

Colin Dorrance was on duty outside the town hall when a farmer drove down from the hills in a pick-up truck with debris from Pan Am 103 and, placed in the front seat, the body of a young girl.

The child was the first victim to arrive at what became a makeshift mortuary, but the young constable never discovered who she was, until a chance meeting with the farmer's son finally solved the mystery.

A terrorist bomb destroyed the airliner on 21 December, 1988, killing all 259 passengers and crew on board. Another 11 people died when the wreckage fell onto the Scottish town which gave the atrocity its name.

At 18, Colin Dorrance was the youngest police officer on duty that night and has never forgotten the child who was brought to him by the farmer.

He had carried the child into the town hall.

"It was the body of a child he'd found in a field at the back of his farm," he said. "It was a young child under the age of five. It looked as though they were asleep, it wasn't obviously injured, and it was just a shock to realise it was a passenger from Pan Am 103.

"At the time it all happened so fast. There were hundreds of passengers brought into the town hall. It was just a case of moving on then, but in years since it was something that bothered me. It was such an extreme, intense moment."

Colin chose not to use his position in the police to find out who the child was, feeling that it would have been unprofessional to do so.

"It took me 25 years to find out who the farmer was but I gathered that he suffered quite terribly as a result of what he experienced that night, and I didn't want to awaken any bad feelings, so I left it alone."

Like many people in Lockerbie, Colin has formed a close bond with relatives of the American victims, taking them on tours of the area so they can better understand what happened to their loved ones.

It was on such a trip on Friday that Colin finally discovered who the child was.

He'd gone to the farm where the body of 21-year-old student Lynne Hartunian was found, along with many other passengers from the plane.

"Fate just fell into place," Colin said. "The farmer was there and it was his father who'd brought the child to the town hall.

"He said it was a child by the name of Bryony Owen who was 20 months old and it had affected his father very badly over the years.

"The mystery if that's what you want to call it was laid to rest."

Bryony was travelling to the United States with her mother Yvonne Owen from Wales, to spend Christmas in Boston. They were laid to rest in a single coffin in the West Wales village of Pendine, Carmarthenshire.

Now retired, the 48-year-old is one of five men representing the emergency services who are taking part in a transatlantic fundraising bike ride to mark the 30th anniversary.

On Saturday, accompanied by 70 supporters, they cycled from Lockerbie to Edinburgh Castle. The next stage will see the group cycling 600 miles from the Lockerbie memorial at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia to Syracuse University, which lost 35 students in the bombing.

Speaking after he arrived at Edinburgh Castle, Colin said: "I was thinking about Bryony today.

"There's just a sense of peace, a sense of conclusion to it.

"I now know the person I need to remember."


Forgive the long extract but I just wanted to show the level of BULLSHIT that they peddle on with these "world changing events".
Not in any particular order but these are the things that caught my eye(s):
    1. For almost 30 years...oh, so you mean 29 years? 2+9 blah, blah, blah
    2. The child was the first victim to arrive...but the young constable never discovered who she was...Really? A "policeman" couldn't find that out, not just at the time but during the inquest, or shortly thereafter?
    3. 21 December - of course, the winter solstice and the 356th day in a leap year of which 1988 was one...3+6 & 5+6?
    4. At 18, Colin Dorrance was the youngest police officer on duty that night...Really? I would have thought quite possibly the youngest police officer in the world! And of course, 1+8...blah, blah, blah...
    5. Colin chose not to use his position in the police to find out who the child was...Yeah, right...because it bothered him sooooo much...
    6. It took me 25 years to find out who the farmer was...Yep, that sounds plausible, in a remote but tightly-knit community, a police officer not knowing who the people are on his "beat"...

Anyway, on reading this load of BS i decided to "go-ogle" the memorial websites about this "incident" as I wondered how a "police officer man" [as Nick Frost might've said in Hot Fuzz] would not have thought about doing the same and seeing if a "sexless child" might well have the same name as a "parent", hence...
https://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/12/pan_am_flight_103s_victims_a_list_of_those_killed_25_years_ago.html
Even a modicum of searching reveals this:
Bryony Elise Owen, 18 months, Bristol, England

Gwyneth Y.M. Owen, 29, Bristol, England


Again we have the 1+8 & 2+9 crap...
So unless there are other children i think it would be safe to assume this was the "child" to whom he referred.
Anyway, looking though the morass of "stuff" I also noticed this:

Eric Michael Coker, 20, Mendham, N.J. (SU-Univ. of Rochester)

Jason Michael Coker, 20, Mendham, N.J. (SU)

There was a photo of them which i cannot now find for some reason, however the mention of the "twins" got me thinking about you-know-what and so I decided [why? who knows...] to look up the name "Coker" only to be presented with this:

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So the Coker "twins" are also "delayed Coker Towers" reminiscent of later events...
Of course all of this is mere speculation and "coincidence" as far as others are concerned but I think it goes to show how much sooner they start sowing the seeds and planting little "easter eggs" either to send messages to others or probably to have a laugh at our expense.
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