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It was a karma chameleon copter!



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Or could it just be a case of daltonism? I've heard that color-blindness is endemic in Scotland?




My favorite "eyewitness report" - courtesy of one Fraser Gibson, age 34 :

Eyewitness Fraser Gibson, 34, was inside the pub with his brother to see his former band, Esperanza. He said there had been no indication a helicopter had caused the devastation, adding: "The roof had just totally collapsed. "There were shards of wood sticking out the top but nothing that said there had been a helicopter crash."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-25163045

Woah - that Esperanza band must have been rocking pretty darn loud !



Edit to add:
Correction: THIS is my favorite 'eyewitness report : The band apparently carried on playing - after the copter came through the roof !

Grace MacLean, who was inside the pub at the time, said she heard a "whoosh" noise and then saw smoke. "The band were laughing, and we were all joking that the band had made the roof come down," she told the BBC. "They carried on playing, and then it started to come down more, and someone started screaming, and then the whole pub just filled with dust."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 74061.html

Another female eyewitness, Mrs 'Alleena Coupe', confirms that the band kept on playing ...

She told STV: "I was in the pub when the helicopter crashed into it. We were all shouting to the band to stop playing as something had happened. "I heard this 'whoosh' sound, like when you take the seal something, then this cloud of dust came down and within five seconds nobody could see anything.
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/250984-alle ... -accident/

So, if you have ever wondered what it sounds like when helicopters crash through buildings, now you know: "whoosh!"

bostonterrierowner wrote:Looks like Scottish thrifty spirit in action

Scotch fauxto-journalists are notoriously miserly too! So mean, they share just one camera between them! How else do you explain this?!....

When Night becomes Day!

From http://www.expressandstar.com/wpmvc/wp/ ... 230000.jpg and http://www.thejournal.ie/helicopter-cra ... 9-Nov2013/

And from http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... 867579.jpg

Those two fauxtographs placed side-by side:



And animated together...

Evil Edna wrote: The skyline is obviously falsified. Building 'B' does not exist in that position. 'B' is a small sandstone tower of the City Union Railway Bridge. But that is much further to the left [up the Clyde]. It is not visible from the supposed camera location. So Building 'B' has been spliced in.

The image is a blatant composite fake.

The photoshoppery of the (phony) crash scene is even more obvious from the two foto-fakes below. Both are (c) Andrew Winning/Reuters.

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... 867584.jpg
http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... 867580.jpg



The clowns on the Left are now claiming the jokers on the Right are culpable for the (phony) crash (which tonight has a vicsim count of eight). All due to Cameron's Police cutbacks (poor aircraft maintenance, shortage of fuel, etc.)

bostonterrierowner wrote:Looks like Scottish thrifty spirit in action , psyop on top of a land grab I reckon this Eurocopter was sold to some drug dealer/MI6 asset in South America but ordnung in papers muss sein as the Germans say

Hehe! Talking of drug traffickers, dirty money, and vanishing acts, are you getting excited over the forthcoming TV "documentary" on the Earl of Lucan? It will be 40 years since Lucky Lucan vanished, bless him! Is that too long ago to rake up an old PSYOP here?

simonshack wrote:*

Edit to add:
Correction: THIS is my favorite 'eyewitness report : The band apparently carried on playing - after the copter came through the roof !

Grace MacLean, who was inside the pub at the time, said she heard a "whoosh" noise and then saw smoke. "The band were laughing, and we were all joking that the band had made the roof come down," she told the BBC. "They carried on playing, and then it started to come down more, and someone started screaming, and then the whole pub just filled with dust."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 74061.html

Another female eyewitness, Mrs 'Alleena Coupe', confirms that the band kept on playing ...

She told STV: "I was in the pub when the helicopter crashed into it. We were all shouting to the band to stop playing as something had happened. "I heard this 'whoosh' sound, like when you take the seal something, then this cloud of dust came down and within five seconds nobody could see anything.
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/250984-alle ... -accident/

So, if you have ever wondered what it sounds like when helicopters crash through buildings, now you know: "whoosh!"

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I was at "The Pig & Whistle" in Gastown, Vancouver, B.C. one night during the early 80's, enjoying the resident duo, when suddenly the ceiling above them caved in and a pair of legs just dangled there in the coloured lights. It was absolutely hilarious as the duo kept on playing for about another minute whilst the rest of us just watched on in amazement. It was like special effects from a Michael Jackson concert and not at all what one would expect in a modest pub in Gastown! After the laughter, came the shock and it turned out that some drug dealers had climbed up from the street to conduct their business on the roof of this one-storey building. I can understand an audience not comprehending what they are watching but even the duo were clueless. They later said that they had been completely stunned. (no, not stoned)

The real risk at The Clutha was going through the floor, not the ceiling!


THE CLUTHA: BEWARE! FLOOR ROTTED

The Daily Mail claims it was a thriving family boozer. A favourite watering hole for (tea-totalling) funnyman Billy Connolly and (tea-totalling) Scotch Socialist Tommy Sheridan. The only two dry Glaswegians in the world! Slow wet sales at The Clutha then!

But, naturally, it was "packed to capacity" Friday night for the live band. So let's not be put off by its slightly unsalubrious external appearance - the warning of rotten flooring within - the garbage spewing over the pavement outside - and the many unkind reviews the pub has collected over the years:

There’s very little sound round here after dark. Mostly just the wind whistling off the Clyde and finding the gaps in the buildings through which to, er, whistle. The lamplight seems dimmer than in the rest of the city centre, and shadowy figures emerge on street corners only to disappear as quickly as they appeared.

my job is to look at the recently re-launched Victoria Bar...along with its near neighbour the Clutha Vaults. Recent years haven’t been so good though, including an abortive name change to Scotch Corner and opening times reduced to two days a week.

The neighbourhood has had its troubles too. A forgotten corner of town enclosed by a massive outdoor car park, the High Court, and the river with nothing but empty or dilapidated buildings in between. A homeless hostel is round the corner bringing the predators who latch on to the inhabitants, and Paddy’s Market, which, for all its faults and signs of glaring poverty, at least brought colour and authenticity to the area, has been consigned to history by the city fathers, holding their collective noses while doing so...

The trailed Pop-Up Comedy was taking its time to, er, pop-up, so we looked for the beer garden. No sign was evident so we walked past the bar to one of the doors on the far side. This proved to be the right one. The garden is shared with the Clutha Vaults, using the space at the back of their wedge-shaped premises backing on to the walls of the Briggait.

We left via the Clutha, it looking a little quieter than its neighbour and with the staff giving off a bored air.."

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Better beware if you're an "out of towner/tourist" entering this establishment .The "not so bad or good " (pretty average) thursday night blues entertainment threatened me to leave or risk life and limb. Nobody minds some good hearted fun or a one on one challenge but this venue lets the tail wag the dog and the band to intimidate the patrons...not a recommended visit after daylight hours. I felt lucky to out before the incited locals listened to the "bully" lead singer / tamborine player ... and decided to jump me.

Or succintly:

Smells of damp and mould

Hopefully this now well-known little bar can be brought back to its former glory (as the reviewers above attest). Rather than bulldozed to make way for "an eight storey residential block with retail underneath", as was originally planned in '07. http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/vie ... php?t=6207 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... venue.html

Hehe! Talking of drug traffickers, dirty money, and vanishing acts, are you getting excited over the forthcoming TV "documentary" on the Earl of Lucan? It will be 40 years since Lucky Lucan vanished, bless him! Is that too long ago to rake up an old PSYOP here?
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I do not watch TV anymore Who was Earl of Lucan ???

40 years you say... Well yesterday Paul Walker supposedly died in a car crash in his Porsche 911 carrera GT .. He was 40 years of age

It reminds me of another Jackass/celebrity Ryan Dunn who died driving 911 as well .

Interesting

http://www.euronews.com/2013/12/01/holl ... car-crash/

correction : He was just a passenger so it wasn't actually his 911

bostonterrierowner wrote:Who was Earl of Lucan ???

The "Earl of Lucan" is a title in the Peerage of Ireland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jo ... l_of_Lucan

Officially, in this 40 year old murder mystery, the 7th Earl of Lucan battered to death the family nanny "Sandra Rivett". Using a length of lead pipe, the Earl bludgeoned "Sandra" in the basement of the family home in Belgravia London. Apparently mistaking her for his wife, Lady Veronica, the Countess of Lucan. The Earl (born 1934) then vanished without trace. Since 1974, Lord "Lucky" Lucan has been "presumed dead". Various sightings of him over the years have all been discounted.

(Belated) preliminary investigations are as follows:

7th Earl of Lucan, Richard John Bingham, was a SIM.
Lady Veronica Mary, The Dowager Countess Lucan, is a SIM.
The murdered nanny, Sandra Rivett, was a SIM.

So, quite literally, nothing here to see!

The only tangible thing to the whole Lucan Hoax is the Clermont Club, a members-only gentlemen's casino in Mayfair London. Lucky Lucan was said to have been an habitual gambler at the Clermont, where he allegedly blew his family fortunes, and much more.

At the time of the Lucan Hoax, The Clermont Club was owned by Mr John Aspinall, who later became famous as a leading "environmentalist". Apparently, The Clermont was also frequented by the Earl of Derby, the Earl of Devonshire, the Goldsmiths, the Llewellyns, and many other aristocratic ne'er-do-wells.

According to reports from the time, the Clermont Set "lost" vast sums of Old Money, often in single hands of cards. But strangely they didn't mind the media knowing exactly how silly they had been, and exactly how much money they had "lost"!

In this context, money "lost" in the Clermont seems to be a euphemism - for money-laundering.

The Earl of Derby, for example, claimed to have lost £3.5 million (2013 equiv.) in a single night of poker at the Clermont. In truth, he was probably investing his enormous profits from the drug trade in the true business of the Club. Behind the scenes, the vast sums of cash passing through the Clermont were used to establish the sham Green Movement, in its many forms, including Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, etc.

The nominal owner of the Clermont, John Aspinall, with his billionaire buddies Teddy & Jimmy Goldsmith, were the key moneymen to the flower-powered "Green Revolution". Using the Clermont dope cash, they bankrolled the fledgling Green Party apparatus which sprung up across Europe during the 1970s.

It seems likely that the nanny-murdering Lucky Lucan was just a sim. An invention to befuddle curious minds. A distraction to draw investigators away from the real activities at the Clermont - the laundering of dirty money and its use in funding the new Green Movement.

Even to this day, the "Countess of Lucan" (a sim) maintains a website for "setting the record straight" about this murder mystery: http://www.ladylucan.co.uk/

In her very first words on her myth-bustin' website, "The Countess" is determined to exonerate the late Sir James Goldsmith and John "Aspers" Aspinall from any culpable involvement in the Lucan PSYOP. That's telling in itself.


Lord Lucky Lucan with his wife, the Countess of Lucan

40 years you say... Well yesterday Paul Walker supposedly died in a car crash in his Porsche 911 carrera GT .. He was 40 years of age

I saw that. Never heard of him, but a very fitting way for the star of a film called "Fast & Furious" to go! Great PR for Porsche, too!

Another possible dead celebrity hoax has Paul Joseph Walker, star of Fast and Furious dead in a car crash. Obviously the irony that the star died in a car crash (Fast and Furious is a silly Hollywood movie about racing cars) is just the tip of the iceberg.

The crash apparently happened at 3:30pm

There are reports that TMZ and other online news sites reported his death a full day before it happened as a "hoax" but that could just be a "hoax within a hoax" as I've been unable to confirm these reports on my own. Nevertheless, the story is a bit suspicious.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/cruel-sa ... is-a-hoax/

Here's a photo of the accident:



It seems odd that such a small tree would do so much damage to that car, while the tree appears to have hardly any damage to it at all. Is this physically possible?

Also, here are two photos, one allegedly of Walker entering the vehicle and another of the supposed crash site. Note the man on the left standing pretty close to the crash with his hands on his head and looking very simmy (second photograph).





http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-wal ... 40-2013-11

And finally, a 'leaked' video of the crash. Upon first glance, it looks like there might be some inconsistencies with the trees between the photo version above and this video version but I can't tell for sure. You be the judge.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXWlkrQLDlw

Evil Edna wrote:
Lord Lucky Lucan with his wife, the Countess of Lucan

How funny. She bears a distinct resemblance to the actress Martha Smith in the American classic movie Animal House;



... or possibly the actress Mary Louise Weller in Animal House!



In any case, it's obvious from a glance at the "original" those figures are pasted in, easily confirmed with Foto Forensics.



http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 6d57.59142

fbenario wrote:

Evil Edna wrote: Lord Lucky Lucan with his wife, the Countess of Lucan

How funny. She bears a distinct resemblance to the actress Martha Smith in the American classic movie Animal House;

... or possibly the actress Mary Louise Weller in Animal House!

In any case, it's obvious from a glance at the "original" those figures are pasted in, easily confirmed with Foto Forensics.

That one might be a modern re-jig of an "original" (1963, says wiki) photo of "Lucan" and his new wife, posing on the steps of their new marital home in Belgravia.

There are vanishingly few photos of "Lord Lucan", and even fewer of his supposed wife, the Countess, who is allegedly alive and well to this day (b.1937, so she'd be 76 years old):

http://www.thepeerage.com/p5246.htm#i52452

This photo of "Countess Lucan" was published 2011 in the Daily Mail. There's no indication of when it was taken, but the insinuation is it was contemporary to the article itself. Therefore "Lady Lucan" would be around 74 years old at the time. Does this look like a 74 year old?:



The few photos we do have of Lucky Lucan all seem very similar in terms of his pose, his hair style, his moustache, and his supposed age in the photos. Almost always, Lucan is looking down his nose at the camera, as if to emphasize that he's a ghastly, arrogant snob! Hardly an image any man, even an earl, would want to cultivate of himself, if he were genuine! But a very suitable stereotyping for the monster he was to allegedly become. Almost all of the photos of the earl have him looking slightly to his right, as well. Perhaps indicating that all these Lucan "photos" have the same genesis, taken at a single studio session.

I haven't checked the newspaper archives yet, but I would bet that the name Lord Lucan didn't even enter the public psyche until AFTER his supposed murder of the family nanny in 1974. Yet Lucan supposedly inherited his title ten years earlier in January 1964, on the apparent death of his father, the 6th Earl of Lucan. And yet there are few, if any photos of Lucky Lucan or his wife, over those ten years that followed. No snaps from 1964 to his alleged disappearance in 1974? No photographically documented history for over 10 years? Is that credible?

Nor do we find any signs of his lordship where we might expect to do so. There was no rambling maiden speech in the House of Lords (as is custom of all new lords, if only to secure their privileges from the House). No customary snaps of him at Ascot? No pics of him at the wheels of flashy sports cars? Ten years passed with not one photo record of this prolific gambler and upper-class cad? The only photos that the meeja can offer us of Lucan were supposedly taken around the time of his alleged marriage (1963/64), over a decade before he gained notoriety. And check out the Lucan wedding photos. Hardly a Westminster Abbey affair! Just a couple of very amateur, up-nose shots of the bride and groom!



Something's very fishy! This bounder, and his wife, feel very simmy!

WTF are you on about, Evil Edna? Do you think anyone cares about this stuff?

Sorry Simon. Please delete if you feel it's rubbish! It's a 40 year old PSYOP though, in the same familiar genre of disappearing perps. And it's just about to be revived by a two-part TV documentary in Britain, that is being heavily plugged in the media. I thought it was interesting in the sense that like the JFK Hoax, we are given a set of absurd possibilities to squabble over - in the case of Lucan did he kill himself, was he fed to the lions in the zoo, did he jump to his death from a Channel ferry, or did he flee the country to live out his days in deepest Africa? And yet the truth may simply be that he never existed at all! He was a sim!

I like entertaining those ideas, myself. It's hard to say, though, it probably happens all the time.

Evil Edna wrote:Sorry Simon. Please delete if you feel it's rubbish!

Sorry EE - I was in a bit of a crabby mood last night.

Ian Carmichael meets Terry Thomas.

Not nearly as simmy as the clown allegedly whacked by the "RA"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1450000/i ... gs_300.jpg

What a positve shower!