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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:00 am
by pov603
Just posting link here (had written some blurb then lost whole post). Will tidy up later and link to nuke hoax
https://youtube.com/shorts/kXS2GVLkOvs?feature=share

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:15 pm
by Flabbergasted
Perhaps you remember voters in the 2020 US election showing how their mobile phones were picking up active Wi-Fi networks at polling places. According to this recent article, voters were actually detecting a signal from "FirstNet", a critical piece of the election-stealing machine.

https://joehoft.com/bombshell-exclusive ... nct-level/

New word in my dictionary:
Malinformation = information which is true but will undermine the agenda the government is trying to accomplish.

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:24 pm
by Macaria
Simon said:
This is just a reminder to my Swedish friends: I will be flying to Stockholm (from Rome) tomorrow to present the TYCHOS model with Patrik Holmqvist on Sunday September 3.
How did the presentation go Simon, Patrik?

How was it received?

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:35 pm
by simonshack
Macaria wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:24 pm How did the presentation go Simon, Patrik?

How was it received?
Dear Macaria, this may sound a bit hyperbolic for me to say - but I simply couldn't have asked or hoped for a better reception of our Tychos presentation in Stockholm. Patrik and I certainly enjoyed it very much and we were both pleased with the good vibes, reactions and responsiveness we felt from the audience throughout our 3-hour-long (!) "cosmic talks" - followed by a most animated Q&A session. Of course, we had the 'advantage' of having a Swedish (and 'alternative-thinking') audience who was thus quite familiar with Tycho Brahe, since the great 16th century astronomer made most of his famous observations from the Swedish island of Hven. In fact, at the end of my own presentation I half-jokingly called for a round of applause for the great man who was so dreadfully betrayed (or even murdered?) by Johannes Kepler - and the audience responded big time !

In any event - and as I like to say - the TYCHOS is here to stay. -_-

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:30 pm
by Macaria
Dear Simon,

I'm glad to hear it went well.
simonshack wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:35 pm Patrik and I certainly enjoyed it very much and we were both pleased with the good vibes, reactions and responsiveness we felt from the audience throughout our 3-hour-long (!) "cosmic talks" - followed by a most animated Q&A session.
Three hours plus Q&A! That is quite a marathon!

お疲れさまでした! (otsukaresamadeshita)
(Roughly means "thanks for your hard work" - an expression reflecting appreciation for someone's efforts. Doesn't translate well to English....)

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:24 pm
by Macaria
Some musings about esoteric knowledge...

The secret societies / esoteric religions certainly have secrets of the operational variety - the lower levels do not need to know the plans of the upper hierarchy. But there are also ideas out there that they have powerful secret knowledge, black magic, understanding of the universe etc.
I think it is possible that these groups do have secret understandings about things such as the human psyche and perhaps alternative scientific interpretations, but I think the mystical / magical type powers are less likely to have substance - though I won't rule out the possibility of this.

I kind of think of these diverse and very sophisticated groups of today as analogous to and modern versions of the shaman.
The shaman / witchdoctor / kurdaitcha man (Australian Aboriginal magic man) etc of less 'civilised' societies also had secrets. They seemed to have powers. They could do magic, cast spells, conjure spirits and so forth. They did stuff that looked weird and different and powerful. They may have had secret meetings.
When a young initiate was selected - they could learn the secrets, (probably old shaman would drip feed the 'knowledge' in order to keep his charge hanging on - "oh junior, you think level two shaman is powerful, wait til' you see the magic when you get to level three!")
Some of the secrets may have been real 'magic'. How to brew a mind-altering potion or develop a poison or medicine. Some might be purely mystical, stories and nonsense. Other secrets I'm thinking were things like how to fool the other tribe members. How to act and deliver performances to look powerful and dangerous and scare people. How to maintain a privileged position in the tribe to get others to hunt and cook for you. Real secret magic!
(I wonder how conscious these shaman were, even as they were tricking their fellow tribesman with subterfuge, that it was actually subterfuge or whether they really believed the 'spirits' were powering them...the latter could be beneficial in some ways - their performance would probably be more convincing)

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:20 am
by sekito
Am I the only one who thinks the Sep 11 Libya flood aftermath (and the earlier Morroco earthquake aftermath) is another psyop by the numbers, if not to serve as a distraction to the Sep 11 anniversary?

Derna, Libya, was a ‘war’-zone not so long ago, first by ISIS in 2016, and then by Egypt in 2018. Frankly, I do not see any way of differentiating between destruction by the ‘war’ to that by the alleged flood. Moreover, in the photos/videos of Derna, I noticed the washed away/overturned cars are suspiciously clean: the tires have no mud on them, there are no water stains on the car body or windows; and it seems absurd to me that cars can stack up one over another - all in upright position - unless someone positioned them intentionally.

The Moulay Brahim village in Morroco, similarly was reported to have suffered residential damage by a flood a month earlier (in July 2023): https://en.hespress.com/67725-torrentia ... egion.html
Again, I do not see any way of differentiating between the damage caused by the flood to that by the alleged earthquake. Curiously, in every video of interviews with the villagers, no a single one of them is hurt: no bandaged heads, arms or legs - despite their claims of houses falling on them.
There are obvious signs of theatrics, such as in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcCY8BkGVoY
Where 50 people gathered to carry a single body - with at least 2 photographers filming the progression no less.

The even earlier Maui fires is clearly staged, so it seems to me that all 3 (Maui fires, Morroco quake, Libya flood) are a string of staged events.

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:25 pm
by simonshack
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11 HOSTAGES KIDNAPPED BY HAMAS

Apparently, Hamas only selects Tik Tok girls for abduction. 🙄

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(the above image was published today in Italy's largest newspaper, "La Repubblica")

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:56 am
by panertos
simonshack wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:25 pm 11 HOSTAGES KIDNAPPED BY HAMAS

Apparently, Hamas only selects Tik Tok girls for abduction. 🙄

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(the above image was published today in Italy's largest newspaper, "La Repubblica")
Simon, I have just been going through the war material. I'll try to sum up here. It's so fake. It's just too much.

The music festival

The official story: There is a hippie like music festival in nature close to Gaza, just happy people dancing, then the evil Hamas terrorists come in from the air with para-gliders James Bond style, everyone starts running and then the evil terrorists start massacring random innocent dancing people and then they rape the women.

Car wrecks
Like in any zombie war scene movie set we see the burned out cars along side the road. These white burned out cars turned to ashes.
Why do evil paragliding terrorists go along the road to burn cars to ashes? And turn these cars to total wrecks. Why I see no smoke? Smoldering?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5vPfqtJBM

Looks like some cars from the junkyard, put some petrol on the ground and fire it. Leaving a black tarmac. Look below. I don't see broken asphalt even. What is this supposed to be? Why are some cars perfectly fine and others within 2 meters; TOTAL wrecks? Very similar to the Maui genocide done by the climate.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67047034

People running
https://twitter.com/NoyHilda/status/1710553087067242888
We just see people running. Nothing else. Just running.

Minutes later, Hamas massacred more than 250 people and kidnapped hundreds to Gaza.
https://twitter.com/aliifil1/status/1711155925677936802

:blink:

We have no images, of this music festival genocide with 250 deaths as we don't see the paragliders.
It is 100% certain that if there would have been a massacre, the images would be ALL OVER the news.
We have nothing.

"Eye witnesses"
"there was bodies right and left"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67047034

Sounds like a holocaust.

"Beautiful Noa" and taking women and female abuse atrocity propaganda

https://twitter.com/BattaKashmiri/statu ... 1322366997

Same thing, we see vulnerable women "abducted" by evil terrorist men waving guns filmed by their own phones. Really?!

Making your own anti-propaganda?

5000 rockets that pulverize mid air


Never seen before fireworks. We NEVER see the trajectory of the Gaza rockets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyeEW7RJNSw

And never scrap is found.

"Hamas killing an innocent dog" with green muslim headband and setting the building on fire
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1 ... 4561272244
Then the guys go home with their body-cam and upload it. Because this will help the cause? Hahaha.

And then the breaking through the border, one of the heaviest borders there is; The Gaza, Israel border.

What we see is a combination of the all the propaganda tricks in the book.

- Evil enemy is abducting, killing and raping harmless women
- 100s of claimed deaths without any proof shown (where are the music festival massacre shots?)
- The enemy is aiming to destroy civilians; go to harmless dancers on a music festival to kill them
- The enemy is using extreme amounts of weaponry (5000 rockets without any proof)
- Enemy kills dogs for fun with green headband

What hits me hardest is with what ease in my country everyone is talking about this; parroting the propaganda. It just happens in front of my eyes.

If you look what there is, it's a bunch of lies. Ofcourse we don't exactly know where the lie starts and the truth ends.

But I'm convinced there is no such thing as 5000 rockets to Israel, I think there is no such thing as an iron dome, I don't even believe "hamas" is real, everything screams it's a Western/Israeli funded operation.

Israel needs an enemy for it to exist. Without an enemy.

The country would fall apart caused by internal struggle. Religious Jews vs the secular Jews. It would impoverish, the country lives on the support from all over the world.

And I must give it to them; very effective. Everyone in my country is "pro-Israel" now and not supporting terrorism. Just one or 2 days of propaganda in the media.

People are turned into lemmings, that I think with a few days of propaganda people would throw themselves in the sea to kill themselves.

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:25 pm
by simonshack
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If anyone buys into this CNN video report - I would immediately declare them "brain dead"- Sorry - but I have no more words at this point.

https://twitter.com/Vision4theBlind/sta ... Xk3VZrO4gM

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:27 pm
by simonshack
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

You have all probably received at some time hilarious e-mails from people / entities wishing to bestow you with XXXXXX $$$million...

The one I received today, however, made me laugh louder than usual : ^_^
Greetings my dear,

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Since the death of my Husband, I managed his business investments until my present Medical Condition developed. After being diagnosed with cancer last stage two years ago, i could not manage my Late Husband's Investments anymore so I sold all the family properties abroad and realized the total sum of $10.5 Million United States dollars. This money i have decided to use for charity, assisting the less privilege, motherless babies and widows in our society but will need your assistance to reach them as my health has become a barrier to my dreams at this moment.

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:13 pm
by antipodean
Tell her you think her family may have used 9/11 to do a runner, because they're not listed below.
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... ge102.html

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:12 pm
by Flabbergasted
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News item from Epoch Times, 14 October 2023.

So, self-admittedly, we have another trite 9/11 or Pearl Harbor trigger event designed to serve as pretext for the implementation of "anti-terrorism measures" ― a euphemism for the abolition of natural and civil rights. But note the headline: "World braces for war". The measures will be global.

To justify this extrapolation, the usual left-wing groups and vandals-for-pay (at least in Brazil and the US) are holding public gatherings to support HAMAS and celebrate their real/staged/fictitious attacks (grotesquely having to applaud the "decapitation of babies", according to the MSM narrative). The fifty or sixty hired hands waving the Palestinian flag at these gatherings don´t even know what continent Palestine is on, but the images from the gatherings and the sponsored online declarations of unconditional admiration for HAMAS will be used to "prove" that entire Western populations are severely infected with terrorist sympathies and must therefore be immediately subdued and monitored.

Also, the central bank digital currency (CBDC) is about to be rolled out, and a Pearl Harbor event or scamdemic or economic collapse would be very useful to propel it. This means the introduction of social credit in the Chinese style, with governments having ultimate decision power over every private penny spent and the possibility of assigning an expiry date to the money in your account. For example, the legal framework of the Brazilian CBDC actually contains a clause that allows the system to freeze "misbehaving" people´s assets.

Everything is connected to everything...

PS: By the way, how do you evacuate a million people from a tiny strip of land? Oh well, perhaps they are all good swimmers...

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:55 am
by sekito
Interim(?) report

Operation Al-Aqsa Flood and Operation Iron Swords, 2023
- Another bombing accidentally caught live by media
Al Jazeera (Oct 8 2023): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyWVOEdOiWU

- Use of dummies in alleged video of Hamas militants; note the floppy limbs
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1 ... 9801252102

- Supernova Sukkot Gathering music festival/peace party massacre in Re'im, Oct 7 2023
(note: Supernova is a stellar 'explosion' - an unfortunate name of choice or a deliberate gag?)
The organizers had never publicly announced the location of the festival in any of its channels; this by itself is already suspicious, as the organizers could easily prevent public participation
https://www.facebook.com/TRIBEofNOVA/po ... kkvJ1BSiAl
https://www.eventer.co.il/event/novapar ... late/wCqCL
Moreover, the site of the festival moved just 2 days before it started
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-n ... 235436829/
In this video of an alleged victim from the party, who had been identified as Shani Louk, there is suspiciously little bruising or blood on the body; the bent knee is also reminiscent of the rubber dummies seen before (see above)
https://twitter.com/angryopinionatd/sta ... 22/video/2

- Kfar Aza massacre, Oct 7 2023
Public debate arose due to the unsubstantiated claim of Hamas beheading babies - what is important is not whether there were actual beheaded babies or not, but the media's lack of integrity. The media's willingness to spread unverified claims puts the authenticity of the whole event into question.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/12/ ... -by-hamas/
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/behe ... lestinian/
Curiously, the claim originated from the i24 News correspondent Nicole Zedek's reporting made on Oct 10 2023; that is exactly 33 years apart from the so-called 'Nayirah testimony' of Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators, made on Oct 10 1990.
https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1 ... 3151056355

- Staged Israeli missile attacks of residential buildings in Gaza
Note, none of the videos below are surveillance camera footage, so they either caught the bombing 'accidentally' on film; or, more likely, the cameraman/bystanders were notified of the strikes in advance. The last video even had professional TV cameras set up on the roof of a nearby building of the bombed site. Additionally, in the 2nd and 3rd video, the buildings fell straight down, reminiscent of controlled demolitions.
AFP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyX3X7vQy7M (note: why were people gathered to look down an empty street?)
ABC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvQRAnqmsC0 (note: the camera must have been placed on the floor for the specific shot) (edit: corrected, thanks Macaria!)
NBC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5OhTspt0g8 (note: see profession TV cameras at 0:37)

- Footage of Gaza citizens after the attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwwiqtcK1lA
(note: extraneous evidence; notice the girls in the background in 2:55-2:57 are smiling/laughing while the interviewed girl is [supposedly] crying about their circumstance)

- CNN reporter pretending to take shelter from missile attack, Oct 10 2023
original footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJDmNgMEp1Y
analysis: https://twitter.com/citizenjournos_/sta ... 8765961431

- Al-Ahli Arab Hospital explosion, Oct 17 2023
The media had to recant on their statements again (note: limited hangout) when images showed only the parking lot seemed to suffer some fire damage; there was no, or a very small, crater; while the hospital remained intact. The reported casualties of 500 dead was inconsistent with the extent of damage. Assuming that Palenstine/'Hamas' lied about the situation, the event could very well have been staged from the get-go.
Sky News - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrwdteJhKGY

*****

So much for the fake war,
I actually came here to propose a hypothesis I had recently:

There had been a lot of discussion about whether rockets work in space,
but it seems most people (here) believe rockets work at least within Earth -
but what if rockets do NOT even work on Earth?
Or, to put it another way, 'rockets do not exist'; 'rockets launches are not real'.

The fakery involving the Space Shuttle launches is abundantly documented here;
SpaceX rocket launches are often suspected to be CGI (though I have not seen concrete proof of this so far),
and I have previously shown that the Artemis launch involves CGI: https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.p ... s#p2416601
The question is, why fake the footage if rockets DO work on Earth?

Once I started thinking about it, the idea that 'rockets do not exist' makes a lot of sense:
if there is an actual rocket launch - that does not escape Earth (this is taken as a given) -
then there is a huge risk that the deception fails -
Even if the rocket is planned to crash into the sea (so it crashes in a remote location) and the wreckage salvaged,
there may still be civilians who just happened to be at sea and capture a footage of the descending rocket,
some of the wreckage may also become unrecoverable for whatever reason and gets washed up onto the shore.
Then there is the risk of the rocket exploding in midair, or malfunctioning in some way.

The easiest way to eliminate these risks would be to simply fake the rocket launches themselves.
If we think about the historical development of rockets since the Apollo project,
the timeline of building a functional rocket never made sense.
It was simply assumed that NASA, at some point in time, did manage to build a functional Earthbound rocket.
But maybe they didn't? Maybe they never managed to build a rocket at all?

Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:10 pm
by Macaria
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That was a great digest of the current (never ending) middle east crisis sekito.

I particularly liked the AFP video - a bunch of people just milling, clearly with nothing to do, pretty much all of them already looking in the direction of the already, very-damaged-looking building which then appears to collapse upon being exploded.

Note: your ABC and NBC video links are duplicated.

About rockets, I take it you are talking about large scale rockets. I'm pretty sure rocket fireworks work.

I have wondered how rockets are stabilised though. How do they stay flying in the direction you desire? Even a big rocket would be perturbed by winds. Then, even a small perturbation would send it way off course eventually.