Jim Fetzer on media fakery

How the controlled opposition was designed to be part of the 9/11 hoax
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reichstag fireman wrote:Why should Simon Shack debate anything with Jim Fetzer? The Flabby Fibber has a long history of denial in the 911 Fraud. He's ignored countless requests to expose the media and its instrumental complicity in the whole sordid affair. After all, no media, no hoax. The media is the trillion dollar elephant on the sofa that Fetzer still cannot, or rather will not see? Recall the times he scorned queries over fake footage with flippant replies like: "Didn't you see the sign on the door? DO NOT DISTURB!" That means Professor Fetzer is busy today (again, as he always will be)!

Fetzer has wasted everyone's time for over a decade, leading millions into dead end alleys of ignorance. He's a disgrace to academia. Yet now he and his crew suddenly want to chat?! Sounds more like his handlers are sharpening their swords, in readiness for a hostile radio show. A carefully planned ambush to eviscerate the robust research behind September Clues. One where Fetzer & Co micro-manages every second. Calls for a 'Grand Debate' sound suspiciously like the laying of a Honey Trap.

Besides, what relevance Fetzer? Not a lot. And for those feeling otherwise, surely it's their duty to take the truth to the Big Fat Deaf Man. Good Luck with that!

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A-BOMB HOAXSTER: Jim Fetzer
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Although I have to disagree on one point "He's a disgrace to academia." No he's the epitome of 'Academia', who are tasked to lead people into dead end alleys.

One question I would like to see tabled if Simon should ever choose to interact with Fester :

Where does your funding come from Professor?
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Brian... funding shouldn't be a worry for those folks. They are an integral part of the trillion $ 9/11 scam.
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EVER HEARD OF GORDON DUFF?
Reviewing a duff military disinfo hub


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Yesterday, I had the great privilege to be called an "asshole" by this Gordon Duff character. This, only shortly after Jim Fetzer had called me a "whack-job" and a "moron". All these niceties were thrown at me over one of those dreary group e-mail exchanges (between "9/11 truthers") into which I regularly keep getting dragged in. So who is Gordon Duff, you may ask? Well, he appears to be quite the 'top gun' at Veterans Today - but until recently I had not thought much of looking into the guy (my bad): the little I had read of his stuff in the past (UFO-garbage and such) simply made me shun his writings like the plague. For some unfathomable reason, I'd never bothered (until recently) spending much time looking into the Veterans Today outfit - and its roster of contributors. It turns out to be a quite fascinating exercise...

Here's an excerpt of Mr DUFF's bio on Veteran's Today:
"Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades. Gordon Duff is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues."
http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/


So Mister DUFF (who called me an "asshole") says that he's an accredited diplomat - and that he is "generally accepted" as one of the top global intelligence specialists. That is quite some statement ... oh, the humility! I wonder who told him that he's "generally accepted" of being such a thing? His mom? Note that Mr Duff also states that he manages the "world's largest private intelligence organization". Huh? What's the name of it? Why no mention of the name of this large organization? Hold it! Is it perhaps the "ADAMUS GROUP"?

Here's the Editorial Board of Veterans Today: http://www.veteranstoday.com/staff-writers/
If you take a cursory look at the above link, you'll see that DUFF and several of his colleagues are listed as working for the "ADAMUS GROUP". Now, that must be a really, really secret private intelligence organization - since they're nowhere to be found on the internet. Ooh wait, there actually IS an ADAMUS GROUP website to be found. It's a German firm which makes portable urinals:

ADAMUS GROUP:
"Adamus produces one-way pocket-sized WC for men, women and children."


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Now, whether this is a coincidence or not - I can't help but thinking of the definition of "Al-Qaeda" - as stated by an eminent Arabic linguist. According to this scholar, "Al-Qaeda" (which means "the Base") can also literally mean - in some Arabic dialects - "the base on which you sit on to defecate" - i.e. "the toilet seat"- "the bog" - "the throne" - "the latrine".

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In other words:

AL QAEDA= the toilet seat
ADAMUS = the portable WC

How droll. <_<

Read here what Mr DUFF has to say about the ADAMUS GROUP: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/16 ... -addition/

To be honest, I was NOT surprised to see that the Veterans Today roster of contributors includes Dimitri Khalezov, Hamid Gul, Sibel Edmonds, Kevin Barrett, Jim Fetzer, Benjamin Fulford, Jim Dean, Gilad Azmon - etc. The excruciatingly silly BS disinfo that Veterans Today spews on a daily basis is an integral part of the 9/11 hoax - and all it has spawned since then (and before - what with Fetzer's endless, mind-numbing JFK "investigations"). If you spend some time looking into VT's many articles about alleged "nuclear" events - such as Fukushima and the like - you'll easily see that they are desperately protecting the nuclear hoax, one of the most effective fear-mongering schemes of our (war & peace) times.

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Of course, Gordon Duff likes to warn us all about the "rampant disinfo within the 9/11 truth movement"...
"DUPING THE TRUTHERS": http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/22 ... -truthers/

For comic relief only:
One of the various meanings of "duff" - as of the UK / USA language:
"the rump or buttocks"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/duff

The “Veterans’ Today” Conspiracy To Misinform:
http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... misinform/
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Re: Jim Fetzer on media fakery

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Gordon Duff admitted long ago that he makes up a large part of the news at Veterans Today.

In late 2012 he said:

"About 30% of what's on Veterans today is patently false. About 40% of what I write is, at least purposely, partially false. Because if I didn't write false information, I wouldn't be alive."


Here is a video:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ

I don't know the person who posted this, I never heard of their site before. I'm not promoting their worldview or other material, just linking to what they recorded.

Maybe this has been discussed on the forum before, but I did a little search and didn't see anything. I'm kind of surprised at the 'surprise.' If VT claims knowledge of an ongoing battle between alien and human forces off the Californian coast and Mr Ogilby still thinks it's a good place to work, why is it surprising when he turns out to be wasting time and resources for genuine investigators? It is already his job, and he is also still alive.
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This is to replace a mean thing I said. I got mad at these jokers.
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I had to do a double take on that name, Gordon Duff. Those who research the Titanic Hoax can't fail to have encountered the Duff Gordons!

http://blogs.denverpost.com/titanic/fil ... -tells.jpg

Lady Duff Gordon and her (bogus) eyewitness account as a Titanic survivor was pushed around the world just hours after the tragic (non-)event.

Lady Duff Gordon was the first to sell all the key myths to the world - hitting the iceberg, too few lifeboats, huge loss of life, massive insurance payouts! There would have been no Sinking of the Titanic without Lady Duff Gordon!

Duff Gordon was to the Titanic, as Harley Man was to 9/11!

Duff Gordon, Gordon Duff. Two peas in a pod! Maybe the Titanic hoaxess was the inspiration for her back-to-front namesake today?!
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Funny stuff, dblitz and EE - thanks! <_<

Let me add some further surreal twists to this 'ADAMUS' affair...

[ DISCLAIMER: The below-linked article and website are not to be taken seriously. Its touted "revelations" about the phantom "ADAMUS GROUP" are most likely a MONSTROUS red herring wiggled in front of our noses designed to nudge us into endless wild-goose chases. I am only posting this 'gem' to show just how far the Nutwork will go to muddy the waters and generate widespread confusion and suspicion between ALL truth-seeking 'camps' - so as to eventually discourage any honest individual to pursue any research at all.]

So having duly warned the readers - let's check this 'damning info' out. Are you ready?

"The Adamus Group Exposed: It’s Nazi Paperclip" (Posted on May 19, 2013)
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The Adamus Group is also linked to the control of U.S. media outlets aka CNN, FOX News, NBC, ABC, and the financial network Bloomberg News. (...) Nothing you hear in the U.S. media is real or in real time. The Adamus Group and the U.S. NSA have a 20-second lead time to pull the plug on any broadcast they deem inappropriate.
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... clip/44697


I suppose we're all meant to go: "A-HAA! So THAT's why Duff and his gang are desperately protecting the media's central role on 9/11!"

Rrright. :rolleyes: Need I point out how silly such an assumption would be? All right, then: if this were true, would Duff be so terminally retarded to claim allegiance to this "super-secret ADAMUS intelligence group" ('which controls the TV Networks') - on his own website? Hey... come to think of it - there may be a slight possibility that he is! After all, other meanings of "duff" listed in the dictionary are: "bad, poor, useless, pathetic, inferior, worthless, unsatisfactory, defective, deficient, imperfect, substandard"... :P

The bottom line being: the major 'alternative media/ 9/11 truther' websites (such as Veterans Today) are playing games with us - hardly surprising, you might say. Of course, the most obviously military-run VT operation is only one of many such sites financed by the Nutwork - yet it would seem that VT (what with its...uh... 'heavyweights' like Professor Fetzer) has been selected to tackle and subdue our particularly sensitive evidence concerning the now undeniable media complicity.
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So Al qaeda is full of shit, or a load of crap, while Adamus is taking the piss, or pissing in your pocket.
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dblitz wrote: If VT claims knowledge of an ongoing battle between alien and human forces off the Californian coast and Mr Ogilby still thinks it's a good place to work, why is it surprising when he turns out to be wasting time and resources for genuine investigators? It is already his job, and he is also still alive.
Dear dblitz,

To whom does "he" refer to? It is unclear (to me) if you are referring to Gordon Duff or to Stewart Ogilby. Please clarify.
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"PLEASE CONTINUE, TIM!"

The fascinating life story of Prof. Emeritus Jim Fetzer - in the words of the man himself. Grab your popcorn.

Poor 'ol Ole Dammegård, the host, doesn't get to say much. Fetzer steals the show.

Well, at 9:22 into the show, Ole DOES manage to slip in a sentence of encouragement: "PLEASE CONTINUE, TIM!" :lol:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8Cqe1O-qU

"THE AMERICAN AWAKENING". Brought to you by Prof. Emeritus Jim Fetzer.

Hey, What's that snoring I hear in the back of the classroom? ^_^
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I recently noticed this Vinnie Eastwood channel popping up high on the Youtube search results for various topics. Looks like Alex Jones has a replacement lined up. This guy looks even more retarded :puke: :


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-r1SXFcc6Q
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Re: Jim Fetzer on media fakery

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Dear dblitz,

To whom does "he" refer to? It is unclear (to me) if you are referring to Gordon Duff or to Stewart Ogilby. Please clarify.
I meant Stewart Ogilby. Sorry, didn't see that question till now.
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HONEST QUESTION N°1 - to Jim Fetzer

This may well be a futile exercise, but I have now decided to submit here on Cluesforum - from time to time - a Honest Question to Dr. Fetzer. I call it 'futile', because we know that Fetzer will never register to this forum to address any questions regarding our longstanding 9/11 research. Please note that the same cannot be said about myself, since I have - for several years now - been active on Fetzer's websites (the "REAL DEAL" and VETERANS TODAY"), taking all sorts of questions and expounding / illustrating my own 9/11 research to the best of my capacities. This, in spite of Fetzer systematically dodging / ignoring my posts (not ONCE has he ever deigned responding to them directly / in timely fashion) and his constant name-calling thrown at yours truly and individuals supporting my work (whom he also suspects being myself hiding behind multiple aliases...: "I am sick of this kind of rubbish from Compass, who must be Simon Shack under another name".) Admittedly, I have also been questioning Fetzer's integrity in pursuing 9/11 truth - but this is all par for the course: he has kept calling me a disinfo-agent/ gatekeeper - and I have returned those accusations to the sender. At the end of the day, however, what really matters is the hard evidence we have of the 9/11 hoax.

A little preamble might be necessary before I start: anyone familiar with Fetzer's stance will know that, in order to 'explain' the utterly absurd / physically outlandish 9/11 imagery of the Twin Towers' demise (exploding top-down and turning into dust in a 'pyroclastic flow' reminiscent of a volcano eruption) Fetzer proposes that "mini-nukes" were used. As it is, what Fetzer maintains is that the extant photographic record (of the WTC demise) "all hangs together" - in his own words - and that "it is internally consistent and not contradicted by any source, thus creating a prima facie case for its authenticity". According to Dr. Fetzer, there is NOTHING wrong / suspicious about the extant WTC collapse imagery.

Here's the "REAL DEAL" thread where I will hope that Fetzer will deign respond to the below image comparison :
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/11 ... 4603290824


So here's my first HONEST QUESTION to Dr Fetzer:

HOW are the two below images of the WTC2 collapse consistent with each other, Dr Fetzer?

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Or, in other words:
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So, lest my question not be clear enough for you: HOW DID THE TOP OF WTC2 LEAN STEEPLY SOUTHWARDS IN THE VERY FIRST SECONDS OF ITS COLLAPSE - AND THEN "LEVEL UP" ITSELF?

I have, of course, dozens of other questions for Dr Fetzer - regarding the WTC collapse imagery. But let's first see if he deigns to respond at all to this first one - or if he's too busy dealing with other, more important matters... Cross your fingers, folks! ^_^
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Very well put (as usual) Simon!

So if stubborn ol' Jim still won't come and register here, why not go the Biblical "extra mile" (like the gracious gentleman you mostly are...) and ACCEPT Fetzer's longstanding invitation to be his radio guest? ;)
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repentantandy wrote:Very well put (as usual) Simon!

So if stubborn ol' Jim still won't come and register here, why not go the Biblical "extra mile" (like the gracious gentleman you mostly are...) and ACCEPT Fetzer's longstanding invitation to be his radio guest? ;)
Please don't be a troll. You know why that's a terrible idea, the way Fetzer eviscerates his guests' voice by thundering all over it without listening to (or using) reason.
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Repentantandy,

I must say that I'm a bit curious to hear from you what good you think may come out of me going on Fetzer's show. Let me quote myself from a post I made further up on this very page:
Yesterday, I had the great privilege to be called an "asshole" by this Gordon Duff character. This, only shortly after Jim Fetzer had called me a "whack-job" and a "moron".
See, as much as my gracious nature can easily laugh away these crude / unwarranted and senseless insults, I frankly fail to see what good could possibly come out of engaging in any sort of debate / conversation with such foul & unpleasant individuals.
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