Egypt 'Revolution'- all the way to Libya 'War'

[Dcopymope]

Why doesn't America revolt against it's own dictatorship?

Simple, Aldous huxley told us why Americans wouldn't ever revolt way back in 1961.

"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution." -- Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1962

Don't ever expect any real legit grass roots mass movement to come in America (unlike the fake Anglo American backed mass movements happening in the Arab countries right now), everyone is too happy, docile, apathetic and divided down to the genders, and too cowardly to actually come together for something worth while against the government, for something serious. How can you expect Americans to revolt against a dictatorship when they don't even know they are living under a dictatorship? The best kind of slave one can have is a slave who doesn't even know that he is a slave. They don't even know who the enemy is, and the enemy is not necessarily just a government voted into power, the entire system is our enemy, as my main Negro Morpheus symbolically told us in The Matrix . The fight against tyranny was never meant to be a fight for the masses, never was down through history and never will be, because they are the mass, its always been up to the few in society.

What is really happening in Libya? I know fuck-all about Libya, but it must tie in nicely with the "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan. What do you think?

I am at a bit of a loss about what is happening in the pro-West Arabic Monarchies.

So you're now at a bit of a loss because your 'Crescent of Arabic Democracy' theory doesn't seem to be working. Think it might be because your theory is NOT describing what is going on in any country? As you know, a believable theory has to apply to all the countries involved.

All America wants is control, and that won't happen with democracy. Thus, America doesn't want democracy. (See my post earlier today on this thread about Egypt confirming my prior prediction.)

What is Democracy, define it? It’s a term that changes its definition down through history, to the ruling establishment at least, which to them does not just mean “rule of the majority”, because that’s not what it is in reality, it never was and never will be. The majority doesn't rule anything, although they think they do, which is what the technique of democracy is meant to make the masses think, that they actually have a say in government decisions just because they can vote, just because they can mark their little X on the spot every four or six years and go about there daily business afterwards.

[warriorhun]

Dear fbenario,

you say:

So you're now at a bit of a loss because your 'Crescent of Arabic Democracy' theory doesn't seem to be working. Think it might be because your theory is NOT describing what is going on in any country? As you know, a believable theory has to apply to all the countries involved.
All America wants is control, and that won't happen with democracy. Thus, America doesn't want democracy. (See my post earlier today on this thread about Egypt confirming my prior prediction.)

My "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan theory is working very fine thank you very much: you yourself confirmed it too with your Egypt thread for example. Of course, "Democracy" does not mean democracy as in ancient Athens. "Democracy" is a code-word for destroying traditional societies and their leaders, replacing them with controlled puppets, using "elections" as alibi, tricking the masses into believing this is what the masses want. Democracy has nothing to do with freedom or liberty in my humble opinion.
My theory pretty much described what happened in Tunisia, in Egypt, in Syria, in Iran, in Yemen, if you followed my comments. And, as all countries have different social, economical, and political structures, of course you have to apply different approach in every country. What works in Cairo may not work in Saana. I was a bit lost over Libya, but now I'm sure they are faking the news videos on Libya in CGI fashion, because no way will the Libyans let in western media, and that also means there is activity going on to replace Gaddhafi. This supports the "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan theory a bit I am afraid.
So to summarise: my "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan theory is about a plan to de-stabilize the Middle East in the short run, and- hand in hand with the War on Terror- to bring down Islam like they brought down Christianity, on the long run. And they brought down Christianity with "Liberal Democracies", so that is why the USA wants "Arabic Liberal Democracies" in the Middle East. That is why they may de-stabilize the pro-west monarchies if that is what happening there and not just simple media fakery, and this is what I deemed stupid in the short run, but totally understandable on the long run.

As I said I am speculating, and it is up for discussion, and you may prove me wrong if you can, but if you say I am wrong you have to back it up, too. And if you say I have to lay out the whole plan with exact dates, locations, the people involved and their orders, plus printed out supporting documentation, then all I can say is: do you think I am the man behind the curtain, the planner of the whole fucking "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan?

[hoi.polloi]

We are inundated with TV waves and overly fluoridated water amongst other brain-numbing things. Democracy (the concept of someone else representing one's own opinions) barely works on a small scale as anyone who has ever born witness to a board meeting can know, let alone with politicians. Ultimately, cooperation happens for many reasons that are easily broken down when deliberately targeted with today's social "technology" and associated recorded psychological insights.

An American revolution could be terrifying considering the amount of weapons here, anyway. It might be better to wait until there can be a peaceful revolution based on the tighter social networks of trust that we will be soon forced into. This "nation" is young and naive and if you listen to the morons declaring war with all the gang leaders everywhere, who don't even go to community meetings and build the long process of trust and care, you might safely assume they are supported by a gang in some way. Sometimes community meetings are infiltrated by intelligencia even quicker than actual community members getting a hold of the reigns.

I optimistically hope for cooperation on some level in this country besides the agreement to consume ourselves to death, but you would be hard-pressed to find inspirational figures in our culture who actually promote such things (who aren't being seen as loner rebel-types or are outright fictional escapism). When we actually do get some kind of intelligent realist figure, I think the media knows how to stroke their egos and make these people feel 'higher' or somehow 'better' than the average person, which ultimately undermines their message of populous uprising. Then they tempt them with compromise after compromise until they are just another paid star supported by the machine.

In other words, I think it goes at the pace it goes and it is physically impossible to do anything about it unless enormous shifts happen such as someone with a lot of money uses it to induce something, or there is a disaster or some spontaneous thing.

To upset the power balance you need privileged people who see themselves as 'insiders' who want to help the little guy and I think sometimes they leave the keys out of the prison right by the door. Simon takes it another step and tries jingling the key chain to draw attention to the exit. Still people ignore it. Perhaps I feel sometimes that there is nothing to be done except continue our good attitude and media and hope people eventually find their way away from the hypno-waves. But that's not nothing. We have helped a lot of people.

[nonhocapito]

Too briefly (while I prepare to go to work): Stories from Lybia seems to be exaggerated to say the least... I was in Lybia a couple of years ago for a disgraceful work experience (as a gardener, long story) I was in Tarabulus AND Benghazi as well... I only dealt with locals and although you could feel people were a little tired for the "dictatorship", made bitter jokes about having a "big boss" now and then, generally speaking their nationalistic pride, their culture, their dignity would forbid you to criticize at all their nation or government.
They would look at you like "mind your own business". "you don't know what you're talking about".
So I highly doubt people there are now "rising against" Gheddafi.

Also one thing I could notice, Lybia had A LOT of immigration from Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, because it was the most stable and the rich country in the region. All low-level workers where from Egypt, Morocco, Sudan. Lybians handled the "professions", were educated, had cars and means. This is no small peanuts since all those countries are pushed to their limits by the advance of Sahara, the lack of resources and so forth... and a stable economy, even if founded on a horrible dictatorship, is invaluable and always preferable to a corrupted monarchy or democracy that turns all your citizens into wannabe emigrants (cf Morocco).

That said, what I cannot wrap my mind around is this: IF, like it seems, this is an operation run by foreign entities like International banks, Soros, the Zionists, the Anglo-Americans and whatnot; IF, like it seems, this operation is largely based on exaggeration and fakery for the benefit of the western masses; HOW COME people like Gheddafi or others don't just grab the occasion to speak out against such manipulations? Why coming out with things like "I will die in this country" or "I am dictator for life" that seem to fit so well into the script...? Why the tabboo on speaking out about Fakery, or plain foreign manipulation? OR maybe they do say these things, but our media cut them out of the script?

* That's not to say that Gheddafi isn't a total dick, as picture above besides clearly show.

[Guerrero]

but both Mubarak and Ghadafi have brought up the "machinations"; "foreign" hands at work; israel, etc...unfortunately for them both, decades upon decades of power and wealth corrupted them both, making them "aware" and "in the know" but also either a) borderline insane (Ghadafi - yes I do think this is being played up and exaggerated in the media, but i've heard for a long time that Ghadafi is kinda off his rocker...) and/or b) arrogant/egotistical, which therefore works to discredit their claims (much like how Ahmenijad and how he is set up as a "crazy man" and then when he spouts off about 9/11 or the Holocaust....it ends up doing harm, instead of good.)

my point? power corrupts. these men have been corrupted. the elites know this and know their weaknesses and they are manipulating those weaknesses, imo. for mubarak, they threatened his wealth (which seemed to be what he clung to most); for Ghaddafi, it's his legacy/reputation/personality (he was quoted during his reign as claiming to be the leader of African nations; he seemed to pride himself on being "anti-elite" (he wouldn't stay in the french prime minister's palace, but rather propped up a tent at some UN meeting a while back (a very fancy tent, albeit).

so while these guys most certainly are aware of the foreign interests/hands behind these uprisings, and have been quoted stating as much, they have also discredited themselves due to their personal excesses and corrupted selves.

i have no idea if i have made any sense. hopefully, someone, anyone, gets something out of it.

[reel.deal]

no Lindsay Lohans were haremed during the making of this production.

When asked by Berlusconi if they would like anything most world leaders would respond with "I'm fine thank you"
or "I'll just have a glass of wine". Gaddafi said, "I want to meet 1,000 Italian women". What a great request.
That's like the kind of thing you ask a genie for.

http://smallangryman.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -duck.html

[Guerrero]

Check out article here, titled "Proof! Middle Eastern Uprisings Fueled by US"

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/02/21 ... led-by-us/

[warriorhun]

Dear All,

This two pictures of Gaddhafi and his virgin girl bodyguards tell us all we need to know about the man (unless the pictures are faked-the second one is in with a chance, in my humble opinion ) :


1. Cocaine, lots of, from oil revennue, up his nose. He looks like Maradona (the best futballist ever)at his lowest point in life.
2. We may start interpreting the definition of virginity, and since Clinton we know that blowjobs and playing with cigars do not count as sex. But no matter how we try to stretch the rules of virginity, I would gamble my life on those girls doing other things with their bodies than guarding, period.

Ok, back to basics, to revolutions.
Real revolutions are the counter-revolutions of the marxist terminology. Masses just do not revolt to tear down the existing society in order to build up an imaginary perfect totally new one-communism, or democracy. Traditionally societies were built on custom law. If a leader usurped rights and broke the custom law, people revolted to restore their previous status: they did not set out for acquiring totally new rights.
That is why in Saddam's Iraq nobody missed democracy. They may felt Saddam's rule a bit over the top when more people disappeared from the village at night than the customary one or two, but this is the way rulers ruled in that part of the world in the last few thousand years. And democracy came on foreign tanks in the end, so they were right not missing it in the first place.
And why would the followers of Islam revolt for a secular democratic state? Their society is based on their religion, just like Europe was based on Christianity. And the West telling them they should treat their women liberally is simply outrageous: Islam does not come here to tell us how we should treat our women, period.

Whatever happens in Libya, it is in line with the "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan. I think whatever happens in Libya is significant in the plan. And I'm sure there is a plan to de-stabilize the Middle East, to destroy Islam, and to create secular liberal democratic states and societies for them to rule over them. Just like they rule over us in our secular liberal democratic states and societies. This is what I call CoAD-plan theory.

[fbenario]

i have no idea if i have made any sense. hopefully, someone, anyone, gets something out of it.

I agree with your analysis, and think it makes perfect sense (it would help, though, if you used complete sentences and good punctuation).

The CIA (as a cover for the US military) will invade Libya to 'protect' it, and to keep control of the oil. All for 'humanitarian reasons', of course, following the model of Clinton's invasion and occupation of much of old Yugoslavia in the 90s.

[hoi.polloi]

Check out article here, titled "Proof! Middle Eastern Uprisings Fueled by US"

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/02/21 ... led-by-us/

Nice.

Anyone else see the dollar sign in this hand? Look at the curve of the thumb and the line below forming the center of the wrist. Kinda "$" like ...




Quite a logo to bring to different "democratic revolutions"

[simonshack]

Ol' trusty BBC tell us how it's done - or rather - how it's been done all before...

How to stage a revolution
By Natalia Antelava
In Tbilisi, Georgia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3288547.stm

And apart from Soros' OTPOR thingy, and as far as I can gather, here are some more
'democracy-building' orgs/NGO's or "foundations" behind the whole affair:

- National Endowment for Democracy (NED),
- International Republican Institute (IRI),
- Albert Einstein Institute (AEI),
- National Democratic Institute (NDI),
- Freedom House and later the International Center for Non-Violent Conflict (ICNC)

and the 'mother' of them all :

-the US Agency for International Development (USAID), the financial branch of the Department of State.

[simonshack]

*

THE JUMPING TIRE INFERNO

Meanwhile, the 'democracy-building' TV Fakers are kept hard at work. This clip (allegedly from the Libya protests) is absolutely shocking - VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED ! http://tv.repubblica.it/dossier/libia-r ... pagefrom=1

Loop this video from La Repubblica between 1:15 and 1:17. You will see a most horrific scene: a poor tire, stuck in the cabin of a burning pick-up, decides to jump out to its death - rather than be consumed in the raging inferno... But are we, in fact, witnessing a suicide? Or was the poor thing intentionally pushed out by (what sounds like) a firecracker? Let's investigate, folks! (but get familiar with the video first - or you won't be able to properly assess what follows).

Here is the moment in which it separates from its twin brother (the end of the clip shows that the jumping tire was - apparently - resting on top of another tire). The mystery remains as to exactly what sort of physical forces detached the two red-hot, melting rubber brothers...


Now, here is a 4-frame sequence of the drama. Let us take a good look at it:

FRAME 1: The tire is still stationary and enveloped in flames
FRAME 2: The tire has been ejected and is seen mid-air before hitting the tarmac (it is black - like a tire should be).
FRAME 3: The burning tire is now glowing like gold - hell, was it hot in there !...
FRAME 4: The tire's twin brother is now seen, still stuck inside the cabin...is he about to jump too?

I apologize to the faint of heart for showing such tragic and disturbing imagery. But such is the harsh reality of fakery.

[Guerrero]

On Anderson Cooper's all obsessive focus on "CRISIS in LIBYA" earlier tonight, he was interviewing some arab talking head (the kind that are good for the govt ) and this talking head dude started talking about this "leaflet" by the "people of Benzhir" (since when do "all of the people" of anywhere get together and put together a "leaflet"?), this leaflet is supposedly a "how to" for the revolution. Mr. Arab talking head was like, "this is so beautiful, so beautiful, the people of Benzhir doing this" - nowhere in this whole talk about the revolution pamphlet is WHO actually wrote pamphlet. But I guess that's all part of the revolutionary spirit - can't out them cuz then crazy talking Khaddafi will show up at his door.

[warriorhun]

Dear All,

Gaddhafi is supposedly totally out of it:

(Gaddhafi)..."blamed the uprising on the leader of Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, saying he had drugged the people, giving them “hallucinogenic pills in their coffee with milk, like Nescafe.”

quote was from here: http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/ar ... 27_coffee/

Libyan dictator says 'no sane person' would join protests against his rule, blames al-Qaeda for revolt; Gaddafi offers condolences for those killed in bloodshed, urges his people 'not to be swayed by bin Laden'

quote was from here: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 89,00.html

Four possible scenarios off the top of my hat: 1. He turned to crack cocaine and just smoked a rock to console himself, and lost all touch with reality, or 2. He knows full well Al-Qaeda is the IDF Mistaravim unit, so he is telling the truth with doublespeak, or 3. He is begging the West to stop the provocation by declaring he is on their side in the War on Terror, or 4. It is a totally fake story.

What is your take on it?

Update:

Libyan crowds: "Let me see your hands! Yeah!"


Yemeni crowds: "Let me see your hands! Yeah, yeah!"


Libyan tank defected to the revolution: "I like to move it, move it" (on a stillshot):


Foreigners evacuating Libya:


This is the most dramatic raw video ever about firing with live ammunition on Libyan crowds (warning: disturbing graphics!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 4wB95JoefY

Gadhaffi's pals leaving the country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... H_X_yr5SMY

Say, what? Oh, I see: Associated Press, should have guessed:


Tanks and humans: who is stronger, who is bigger: Egypt-Libya border:


Rolling full speed to crash revolution: a very still shot, does not show blurred movements for some reason:


Unlike this one, which shows that during movement even your heads get blurred. But perhaps only in Libya:


And on and on and on till the cows come home.

War Nerd aka. Gary Brecher's take on Lybia and Gaddhafi back in 2004: http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php ... LOCK_ID=35
Quote from article:

There are parts of the world that should be declared Zones of Total Bullshit. Take Libya. It seems like everybody who even tries to talk about the place starts lying.

I think it fits, nothing much changed in that neck of the woods. Perhaps this time is the Great Leader's last chimpout: handing over his country to the West to create a secular, liberal democracy, in exchange for two kilos of cocaine and a free Playboy mansion for him and his virgin body-guards. Who knows? But whatever is happening, it fits into the "Crescent of Arabic Democracy"-plan theory, before you ask.

[simonshack]

Dear All,

Gaddhafi is supposedly totally out of it:

(Gaddhafi)..."blamed the uprising on the leader of Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, saying he had drugged the people, giving them “hallucinogenic pills in their coffee with milk, like Nescafe.”

What is your take on it?

My take on it? I don't believe in Gadhafi's version of the events.
According to my best and most credible sources, Binladen has no/or little control over Nescafè supplies in Libya.

This time, I'll give more credit to mainstream TV sources: at least none of their star employees are claimed to have been gang-raped by savage mobs in the bustling 'freedom squares' of Tripoli.

Sorry folks - but in the midst of the avalanche of BS we get from the current events in the middle-east, all we can do is sit back and process the 'information' with generous doses of humor. Having said that, I expect someone saying "but you're being disrespectful of the 10.000 street-protesters bombed by the Libyan airforce!!!" Well, yeah. So be it. I mean - are fighter jets suitable for controlling street-protests? Would YOU use them for this purpose if you had them?