bostonterrierowner wrote:Thanks Gracist!
Is 33 in some way related to 33 degrees of scottish rite? 11 is related to chaos but what about 9 is it chaos too? I keep bumping at 8 but I am not sure what to think about this number. 10 would be an order coming after all this 11 realated events , right?
These people are sick but you are right they follow some kind of a pattern . Confucius said that symbols rule the world not laws nor words.
Appreciate your help
regards
33 is indeed the number of degrees in Scottish rite Freemasonry but the significance of the number is older than that and that is probably why they adopted it. 33 is considered a powerful number because it is a multiple of 11 (11x3=33) 11 is also the number of the magician because it surpasses 10 which is symbolic of wholeness, it is god numerically because it is considered perfect and hermaphroditic (1 symbolizing male and 0 female ie the receptacle of the male which is why towers and obelisks are so important and often archeologically mixed with water/pools which represent the feminine again. Like the Washington monument and reflection pool.) 11 is also the letter K making the KKK=33 and the real reason Crowley put a k on the word magic. It also just occurred to me, though I haven't read this anywhere and am not sure if its accurate, that since 10 is male/female/perfection/god then 11 may be like a homosexual/imperfect/ungodly number in that way. It also has the aspect of being a twin (like all of its multiples) which is a recurring theme in the occult (like the twin astronauts of Gabby Giffords.)
In my reasoning yes, the occurrence of 10 is the bringing of order out of chaos of their 11 infused planned chaos events, just like their own motto: ordo ab chao.
8 represents infinity but I don't know much else about its significance. It is also related to Saturn which researcher
Jay Weidner has concluded is a major element to this whole illuminati/satanic/occult religion. For an interesting discussion on the Saturnian influence look for the first hour of the
Jay Weidner interview on Red Ice Radio (it can be found on youtube) it is really good.
9 is an interesting number and has a lot of occult properties. Here is some info from this source which has a lot of good number explanations:
THE ENNEAD. 9.
THE Ennead is the first square of an odd number, it was said to be like the Ocean flowing around the other numbers within the Decad; no further elementary number is possible, hence it is like the Horizon because all the numbers are bounded by it. We find that it was called Prometheus, and "Freedom from Strife," and "Vulcan," because the ascent of numbers is as far as 9, just as the ascent of things decomposed by fire is as far as the sphere of Fire (the summit of the air), and Juno, because the Sphere of the air is arranged according to the novenary system, and "sister and wife to Jupiter" from its conjunction with the Monad. And "Telesphoros" or "Bringing to an end" because the human offspring is carried 9 calendar months by the parent. And teleios or perfect for the same reason, and also called "Perfect" because it is generated from the Triad, which is called "Perfect."
Attention is called to its being an emblem of Matter, which, ever varying, is never destroyed; so the number 9 when multiplied by any number always reproduces itself, thus:—9 times 2 are 18 and 8 plus 1 are nine: and so on as below:
9 × 3 = 27; 2 + 7 = 9
9 × 12 = 108; 1 + 8 + 0 = 9
9 × 4 = 36; 3 + 6 = 9
9 × 13 = 117; 7 + 1 + 1 = 9
9 × 5 = 45; 4 + 5 = 9
9 × 14 = 126; 6 + 2 + 1 = 9
9 × 6 = 54; 5 + 4 = 9
9 × 15 = 135; 5 + 3 + 1 = 9
9 × 7 = 63; 6 + 3 = 9
9 × 16 = 144; 4 + 4 + 1 = 9
9 × 8 = 72; 7 + 2 = 9
9 × 17 = 153; 3 + 5 + 1 = 9
9 × 9 = 81; 8 + 1 = 9
9 × 18 = 162; 2 + 6 + 1 = 9
9 × 10 = 90; 9 + 0 = 9
9 × 19 = 171; 1 + 7 + 1 = 9
9 × 11 = 99;
9 × 20 = 180; 8 + 1 + 0 = 9
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/nop/nop16.htm
I found the 9x11=99 especially interesting because the twin and multiple of 11 aspects appear again enhanced in this light.
I hope this post wasn't just rambling and helped to answer your questions.
